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February 24, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
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http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/24/mining-asics-technologies-bv-mat-announces-6ths-titanium-asic-bitcoin-miner-and-scrypt-asic-miner/

I'd love to see the Bitcointalk community go to work in validating or invalidating this company.

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Mining Asics Technologies B.V.
Stationsplein 8-K
6221 BT Maastricht / Nederlands
Tel +31 (0) 43 7999-016
mailto: marketing@mining-asics-technologies.com

MA Technologies (MAT)
http://mining-asics-technologies.com

"The ASIC Experts"
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February 24, 2014, 08:11:30 PM
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if you click on the Excalibur miner you get the following:

http://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/protected/?comeFrom=%2Fshop%2Fasic-scrypt-litecoin-miner%2F

But what you see here isn't dutch it's german Smiley

Anyway I live in the Netherlands [Amsterdam] and if anyone is up for it, we can go pay a visit =)

Domain is also like 10 days old:

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Domain Name: mining-asics-technologies.com
Registry Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.1und1.info
Registrar URL: http://1and1.com
Updated Date: 2014-02-16 00:00:00
Creation Date: 2014-02-14 00:00:00
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-02-14 00:00:00
Registrar: 1&1 Internet AG
Registrar IANA ID: 83
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@1and1.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:   
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Mathias Coumans
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: Millener Weg 73-75
Registrant City: Selfkant
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: 52538
Registrant Country: DE
Registrant Phone: +49.2456507686
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: mcoumans@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Mathias Coumans
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: Millener Weg 73-75
Admin City: Selfkant
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code: 52538
Admin Country: DE
Admin Phone: +49.2456507686
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: mcoumans@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Hostmaster EINSUNDEINS
Tech Organization: 1&1 Internet AG
Tech Street: Brauerstr. 48
Tech City: Karlsruhe
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code: 76135
Tech Country: DE
Tech Phone: +49.7219600
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +49.72191374248
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: hostmaster@1und1.de
Name Server: ns-de.1and1-dns.de
Name Server: ns-de.1and1-dns.biz
Name Server: ns-de.1and1-dns.com
Name Server: ns-de.1and1-dns.org
DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:  http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-02-24 18:21:33 <<<

Information Updated: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:52:43 UTC
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His address is almost like walking distance from germany to netherlands, I can't use google street view to see around.

I looked up the BV on our local business database in NL [www.kvk.nl] but its a paid side to get info [who is legally responsible etc] a KvK number is supplied which indicates a registered company in NL.

http://officieel.openkvk.nl/xml/Mining%20Asics%20Technologies, shows some basic info [this is a opensource free version but is somewhat behind with information].

Anyway I live in the Netherlands [Amsterdam] and if anyone is up for it, we can go pay a visit =)

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February 24, 2014, 08:20:12 PM
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Exactly! Someone join this brave soul, please Smiley.
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February 24, 2014, 08:39:06 PM
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http://www.sci-worx.com
http://www.dreamchip.de

is exactly the same site

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Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
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Registrant Name: Peter Schaper
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Registrant Street: Steinriede 10
Registrant City: Garbsen
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Registrant Postal Code: 30827
Registrant Country: DE
Registrant Phone: +49.1751817104
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Registrant Email: peter.schaper@dreamchip.de
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Tech Name: Hostmaster EINSUNDEINS
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Tech Street: Brauerstr. 48
Tech City: Karlsruhe
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Tech Postal Code: 76135
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Tech Phone: +49.7219600
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +49.72191374248
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Tech Email: hostmaster@1und1.de
Name Server: ns65.1und1.de
Name Server: ns66.1und1.de
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Domain   dreamchip.de
Letzte Aktualisierung   14.10.2009
Domaininhaber
Der Domaininhaber ist der Vertragspartner der DENIC und damit der an der Domain materiell Berechtigte.

Domaininhaber:   Peter Schaper
Adresse:   Steinriede 10
PLZ:   30827
Ort:   Garbsen
Land:   DE
Administrativer Ansprechpartner
Der administrative Ansprechpartner (admin-c) ist die vom Domaininhaber benannte natürliche Person, die als sein Bevollmächtigter berechtigt und gegenüber DENIC auch verpflichtet ist, sämtliche die Domain dreamchip.de betreffenden Angelegenheiten verbindlich zu entscheiden.

Name:   Peter Schaper
Adresse:   Steinriede 10
PLZ:   30827
Ort:   Garbsen
Land:   DE
Technischer Ansprechpartner
Der technische Ansprechpartner (tech-c) betreut die Domain dreamchip.de in technischer Hinsicht.

Name:   Hostmaster EINSUNDEINS
Organisation:   1&1 Internet AG
Adresse:   Brauerstr. 48
PLZ:   76135
Ort:   Karlsruhe
Land:   DE
Telefon:   +49.7219600
Telefax:   +49.72191374248
E-Mail:   hostmaster@1und1.de
Zonenverwalter
Der Zonenverwalter (zone-c) betreut die Nameserver der Domain dreamchip.de.

Name:   Hostmaster EINSUNDEINS
Organisation:   1&1 Internet AG
Adresse:   Brauerstr. 48
PLZ:   76135
Ort:   Karlsruhe
Land:   DE
Telefon:   +49.7219600
Telefax:   +49.72191374248
E-Mail:   hostmaster@1und1.de
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Nameserver:   ns65.1und1.de
Nameserver:   ns66.1und1.de
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This company has been around for some time.
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February 24, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
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Then again, I have never heard of them. Their site also doesn't show any asic just FPGA: http://www.dreamchip.de/core-competence/fpga.html

The word ASIC is mentioned but that doesn't mean a sha256/scrypt asic chip.
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February 24, 2014, 09:41:30 PM
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Great saves me a ride of 2:45 hours Cheesy

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February 24, 2014, 09:46:43 PM
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Mrrr, you are exactly what the Bitcoin community was looking for.  Thank you, kind sir.
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What company supplies ASIC chips for Mining ASICs Technologies B.V.? ▾
They will be manufactured at Global Foundries in Dresden / Germany. They run one of the most modern fabrication for chips worldwide with highest accuracy and quality.


Isn't that the same company that Black Arrow using for their chip development?

You don't pay enough.
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February 25, 2014, 10:49:51 AM
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here we go again with the preorders, these thing will never ROI now with these prices. Shouldn't the cost of the miners go down if the market stabilizes at a lower price
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February 25, 2014, 07:54:59 PM
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From my communications with MAT, they have stated that the corroborating press releases from Dream Chip, Global Foundries, etc (which I explicitly cite in my article as a large piece of proof thus far missing) will be released later this week.
The people working for the company are also putting their identities on the line.


Not really sure what kind of office people expect start ups to have Tongue

Mrrr, I know this is stinking up your funk-o-meter but I think the community could still benefit from knowing what kind of physical presence they have at that office, and you are in a unique position to whiff cheese.

My thanks go out to you!
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February 25, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
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Pfft. I can promise a 12TH/s Bitcoin miner and a 400MH/s Scrypt miner.
Doesn't mean I'll actually deliver.
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February 25, 2014, 09:13:08 PM
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I'm glad this thread is getting more action.  For now I am with y'all, waiting to see how MAT verifies themselves to this community.  I urge everyone to wait until we receive a negative or a positive from Dream Chip, etc.
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February 26, 2014, 12:02:24 AM
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My post from LitecoinTalk.org ( https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=16195.msg132374#msg132374 ):


Hey Mrrr and the community,

I've been busy this morning and this evening trying to figure out a lot about them too (this took quite some hours work). I went a different direction than you did.
I can buy the chamber of commerce thing, I was really thinking about it and almost bought it. Please contact me to let me know if you're going to buy it or that I should do it Smiley

So here comes my long write-up... I hope you can follow my think and search pattern Smiley




I pulled the phonenumber and found that it was used by a German IT company ran by M Coumans (Marc Coumans). They have 'an HQ in The Netherlands'. They were founded 2008 (please look this up, I didn't check whether it was the German GmbH or the Dutch B.V.) and are called CONSALIT ( www.consalit.eu ). The phonenumber is used since 2010 and this can be confirmed by using the web archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20091121040006/http://www.consalit.eu/Kontakt.html
Now things are getting tricky...

This leads to the following information from June 2013:
Marc Coumans CONSALIT B.V. Tel: +31 (0)43 7999 – 016
marc.coumans@consalit.eu Stationsplein 8-K Handy: +49 (0)151 5606 2233
www.consalit.eu/clusa 6221 BT Maastricht Handy: +31 (0)6 406 757 90
(found here: http://www.consalit.eu/resources/CONSALIT+SMART+IT+Client+mit+CLUSA.pdf )

My interest in the building is really high now, so I searched and it's a business center where people can hire space. Actually, there's A WHOLE LIST of other companies REGISTERED UNDER THE SAME ADDRESS (8 K): http://www.goedkopekantoorruimte.nl/node/377/bedrijven
Why is this done? This address is a dummy address to register your company. I checked some of the companies and they are legit. Their problem is that these companies are small and often work from their homes, but need a business space to work/meet (sometimes) or mostly work at home but don't want to share their personal address (understandably, or because of legal issues). So this isn't something that's only done for scams. Although... there are some notes on the internet about fishy companies under that address...

So ok, so far CONSALIT B.V. seems to be the same company as MAT. Let's check domains WHOIS under "mcoumans@gmail.com" (found in the WHOIS of MAT.com).
- mat.com http://www.whois.com/whois/mining-asics-technologies.com pops up as "Mathias Coumans" over here: http://goo.gl/maps/D7tFu
- consalit.biz http://whois.domaintools.com/consalit.biz pops up as Mathias Coumans at the same address
- consalit-ag.com http://www.whois.com/whois/consalit-ag.com pops up as Mathias Coumans at the same address
- consalit.org consalit.biz consalit-ag.com consalit.eu pop up

They are all registered at http://www.1und1.de/ ... also ... the IT webpage is build by "WFX builder" (a very simple HTML builder) and MAT.com is made with software provided by 1&1.de (1&1 DIY Website Builder). So there's a good 'connection' on technical level as well (Mathias Coumans has both consalit.biz, consalit-ag.com and MAT.com).

Marc Coumans and his IT business look legit (they appear on the IBM website): http://www-01.ibm.com/software/success/cssdb.nsf/CS/SSAO-8YYNJK?OpenDocument&Site=default&cty=en_us
This is Marc Coumans' public LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marccoumans


Let's recap. This looks pretty legit in the following way: Marc Coumans is the owner of CONSALIT B.V. and their website and Dutch phone number exist since 2010-ish (at least, that's what web.archive.org shows). We know that this isn't some fake company because they've updated news over the past years ( check this webarchive link, some news dates back to 2008), but more importantly there's good evidence on the website of IBM.
So this whole IT business is legit under the registrants email "mcoumans@gmail.com". When we search this, we also get MAT.com, which links back to "Mathias Coumans"... but... this isn't the "Mark Coumans" from CONSALIT B.V. and there's no mention about the "Mathias" first name on his LinkedIn. So is this a relative?
Let's go further: consalit.biz is registered under the name "Mathias Coumans" AND the Facebook page of MAT reads the following: "Mathias Marc Coumans | CEO & Co-Founder". So is the conclusion that "Mark Coumans" also uses the name "Mathias" in some cases? Does this mean this ties everything up and everything is legit?

Well... I'm not sure because I didn't tell you yet that I've been digging in the sourcecode of www.consalit.eu : <meta name="author" content="MJJ Coumans"> ... MJJ Coumans. How on earth can a "J" become "Mathias"?
Only the MAT Facebook page says something about the "Mathias" name in combination with "Mark Coumans".


Let's go-go gadget the other way around......
Assumption: Marc Coumans and CONSALIT 'have been chosen' by MAT.com to be their "Scapegoat" and neither Marc Coumans nor CONSALIT agree or know anything about MAT.com.
How could this be done? The only thing they need is access to, is the mcoumans@gmail.com email address. I do not want to discriminate but I know that older people (yes I call Marc Coumans old) use simple passwords which they can remember more easy. Let's say they have gained access to that email and they made sure that if somebody checked the WHOIS data, everything fits, even the Hosting Provider and the way of setting up their website (with an easy HTML builder). Even the physical addresses match (not too hard, because there's many companies there).
So how likely is this? It would take quite some time to figure all these things out (easy Dutch registrant address from an IT company to which they have access to the owners' email). Or... Could this be a rogue employee?
This is all pretty likely as people will often go very far in their scams.

So what's up with the "Marc Coumans" and "Mathias Coumans" names?
"Mathias Coumans" is used in the consalit.biz domain. This domain has been updated last at 1st of April 2013 and that's quite some time before MAT.com. The chances of "Mathias Coumans" being a scapegoat name - to make things even more vague - instead of a real name (this was my first thought) become smaller...
Add to the fact that "Marc Coumans" could be married to somebody called " XXX Mathias" and that "Mathias Coumans" are two last names combined. This could explain why "Marc Coumans" is also called "Mathias Marc Coumans" without having the proper initials (MJJ Coumans).
On the other hand, why would you place a last name in front of a first name?


So my opinion: I'm pretty confused because it looks legit but stinks everywhere... I mean:
- I find MAT's FAQ's are too short, their English is not of great quality, they have some shitty HTML website (c'mon, the ASIC business is expensive, spend a little bit more money on this)
- why not tell us about CONSALIT B.V.
- and best of all: why would they use a Dutch company instead of a German company when they're German based? The answer is... it's easier, makes things vague (crossing borders) and most important, it costs a few hundred Euro's instead of the 25.000 Euro's investment which a German GmbH needs....... (LINK OVER HERE)



How do we solve this? Well... we need to buy the Chamber of Commerce details from CONSALIT B.V. (Dutch) , CONSALIT GmbH (German) and MAT B.V. (Dutch). This costs around 20 euro's total, but will probably resolve questions as the owners of the companies are listed in the papers. I'd like to find answers without asking people questions. That happens after all the available (OBJECTIVE) information is gathered and analyzed.



If you would like to support me in my efforts unraveling "crypto mysteries" (I have done this before, once catching a scammer and I had been given a cut of the coins he returned), please send some:
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February 26, 2014, 12:05:38 AM
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So yes, I can knock on the door and try to wrestle myself past the obvious Gorilla End Boss. I'll call my friends at the Ultra Amateuristic Broadcasting Society (UAO, uaomroep.nl) and burst in there camera's a' blazing. There's a price though: 2 'Karpeles Style' Frappucinos and 2 slices of apple pie at the DE coffee store opposite of the building. Will probably be around 0.04 BTC:

1DeADSSzC4pucosNA3Kw32MP77aSKs1Gvp

GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT

MRRR


I would like to join you then and even travel to Germany and visit CONSALIT GmbH like I posted above...
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February 26, 2014, 03:31:42 PM
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I just got word from Marc Coumans. He says we are thinking a bit to difficult here and he'll gladly explain everything. He will make a post later today.

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So what's up with the "Marc Coumans" and "Mathias Coumans" names?
"Mathias Coumans" is used in the consalit.biz domain. This domain has been updated last at 1st of April 2013 and that's quite some time before MAT.com. The chances of "Mathias Coumans" being a scapegoat name - to make things even more vague - instead of a real name (this was my first thought) become smaller...
Add to the fact that "Marc Coumans" could be married to somebody called " XXX Mathias" and that "Mathias Coumans" are two last names combined. This could explain why "Marc Coumans" is also called "Mathias Marc Coumans" without having the proper initials (MJJ Coumans).
On the other hand, why would you place a last name in front of a first name?


Your thinking about how he uses his names is WAY OFF.
There is nothing wrong with his name.
Do you know that he has a Christian name?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_name

I think they are legit, but they are way too ambitious.
Cointerra has the most capable team in the world of BTC and are doing all the design themself but fail.
Hashfast don't have a design team themself, but contracted one of the best design teams in the world to do the job for them, they also fail.
MAT has NOTHING.
No really impresive names, who earn their stripes already in this industry.

I don't work and have never work in the semiconductor industry before, but I can fix and modify anything that has a chip inside it.
From the technical specs on their website and the companies involved making their ASICS, I already see a lot of points of failures.
If anyone believe in choosing the wrong companies in the production chain will make a top product, then this is THE COMPANY you need to invest in.
This will be a BIG FAIL.

With the rising of BTC value, it also attracts a lot of clowns who are way to ambitious beside the scammers.
Greed is what made them step into this business.

Personally I don't like to talk so negative about my own countrymen, but all I see is the facts that they are not able to pull it off.
I am going to clean up the house first and then I am going to write a full report why I think it is a failure to me.

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February 26, 2014, 05:52:33 PM
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From Litecoin forums:

Hello Litecoin Community,

As mentioned to Mrrr  and after reading this thread this afternoon, I want to comment on the guessing and give you a brief description where needed.

So why are we based out of Maastricht?

Because I have the European HQ for all my business in Maastricht for over many years already. The decision for Maastricht Stationsplein was taken years ago, because office space was available for growth of the company. This is the same case for Germany where we have several offices.
Next week we will open at the Stationsplein the new Office for Mining Asics Technologies on the ground floor of the building, so that it will be easy for visitors to find us. From next week our new telephone number will also be available, so there will be no confusion anymore between CONSALIT and Mining Asics Technologies. (owned companies in The Netherlands and Germany; Dubai to come shortly!)

Why are we producing in Germany?

Because there are the Best of Breed companies that we know for a Long time and do Business with. The majority of our people come from Germany also.

Why was there a call from a number in Dubai towards Mrrr?

Because I and my associate where for the mining Business in Dubai the last few days to investigate our new logistic Center for UAE and APAC. That's why a Dubai number showed up after calling back!

And now the most easy one to answer.....

Who is Marc and who is Mathias?

They are the SAME!

But why using those 2 names?

I have no other choice! My given Name at birth was: MARC
My registered Name(s) were Mathias Johannes Joseph.

So my life was fine, until I moved to Germany to live there! That's where only the FIRST registered Name can be used: MATHIAS!!!

So all of a sudden I hád 2 names...making it difficult to book flights, order Domain names, making payments etc.....

After moving back to The Netherlands, I got stuck with These 2 names and drives me crazy sometimes....!!

So I hope you now know why you see 2 persons being 1!!

Are we SCAM?

NO, we are a serious Business and anyone who has skills that we can use for our Expansion in the future are more then welcome to help us with our Vision!!

With warmest Regards,

Marc Coumans (for Germany: Mathias Coumans)
CEO
Mining ASICs Technologies B.V.

So yes, I was wrong and they are real after all. Sorry for that Smiley But the incredible amount of uncanny pre-sales/IPO's on these boards tend to make people a bit overcautious. Thanks for clearing things up a bit.

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February 26, 2014, 05:55:36 PM
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Hello Bitcoin Community,

As mentioned to Mrrr  and after reading this thread this afternoon, I want to comment on the guessing and give you a brief description where needed.

So why are we based out of Maastricht?

Because I have the European HQ for all my business in Maastricht for over many years already. The decision for Maastricht Stationsplein was taken years ago, because office space was available for growth of the company. This is the same case for Germany where we have several offices.
Next week we will open at the Stationsplein the new Office for Mining Asics Technologies on the ground floor of the building, so that it will be easy for visitors to find us. From next week our new telephone number will also be available, so there will be no confusion anymore between CONSALIT and Mining Asics Technologies. (owned companies in The Netherlands and Germany; Dubai to come shortly!)

Why are we producing in Germany?

Because there are the Best of Breed companies that we know for a Long time and do Business with. The majority of our people come from Germany also.

Why was there a call from a number in Dubai towards Mrrr?

Because I and my associate where for the mining Business in Dubai the last few days to investigate our new logistic Center for UAE and APAC. That's why a Dubai number showed up after calling back!

And now the most easy one to answer.....

Who is Marc and who is Mathias?

They are the SAME!

But why using those 2 names?

I have no other choice! My given Name at birth was: MARC
My registered Name(s) were Mathias Johannes Joseph. (Christian Names; Thanks Easy2Mine...you were 1st..)

So my life was fine, until I moved to Germany to live there! That's where only the FIRST registered Name can be used: MATHIAS!!!

So all of a sudden I hád 2 names...making it difficult to book flights, order Domain names, making payments etc.....

After moving back to The Netherlands, I got stuck with These 2 names and drives me crazy sometimes....!!

So I hope you now know why you see 2 persons being 1!!

Are we SCAM?

NO, we are a serious Business and anyone who has skills that we can use for our Expansion in the future are more then welcome to help us with our Vision!!

With warmest Regards,

Marc Coumans (for Germany: Mathias Coumans)
CEO
Mining ASICs Technologies B.V.
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February 26, 2014, 06:37:01 PM
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Your thinking about how he uses his names is WAY OFF.
There is nothing wrong with his name.
Do you know that he has a Christian name?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_name

Read his explanation, there actually is something wrong with it  Grin
But thanks for pointing out Smiley

I think they are legit, but they are way too ambitious.

With the rising of BTC value, it also attracts a lot of clowns who are way to ambitious beside the scammers.
Greed is what made them step into this business.

Personally I don't like to talk so negative about my own countrymen, but all I see is the facts that they are not able to pull it off.
I am going to write a full report why I think it is a failure to me.

Thanks for helping out on this Wink . Well it's not really negative, all you did was summarize the facts and conclude MAT is 'behind'.
Looking forward to your report!
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March 03, 2014, 11:21:15 PM
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Hi Marc!

You mentioned you're looking for someone to help you expand Vision? Is that also including customer service psychologically-strategic oriented tasks on how to target as many customer/clients as it gets?
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