Who should be BTC Foundation's Replacement for Karpeles

[Pentax]

Karpeles is gone.  we'll see how far down the legal sinkhole he goes, and just how dirty he is.  Based on that joint statement put out by Coinbase, Circle, et al, I think Mark has been a bad, bad, boy, but that's another thread.  At this rate the Foundation's logo should be a prison jumpsuit.

Anyhow, who sits in that empty chair (chairs if you count Charlies)?  If we think the Foundation needs a bit of help selecting people that do not have their heads up their asses, maybe we can forward some suggestions.

So, let's hear yours.  Give reasons why if you're so inclined.  Obviously these folks may be too damn busy, but that doesn't mean we can't ask.

These can be serious or not so much.  This is a serious question, but that doesn't mean I'm dumb enough to think we'll get all serious answers.



For me CEO of Overstock.  He loves it, loves the idea of it, has an independent mindset and knows how the big machine runs.  He'll be able to sniff out the bullshit, identify what checks and balances are missing, and bring some legitimacy to the table.

I'd love to see someone from the financial sector, although I can't think of any of them, at least in the private sector, that I'd trust for two seconds.  In the public sector, it's not much different. 

[TheEmperor]

Personally, I say disband the fucking thing. What has 'the foundation' actually done for the community? Oh, apart from lending credibility to its chairs, one of which has now been exposed as the biggest conman in legitimate Bitcoin history so far?

From their 'Why we need a foundation?' section:

As the Bitcoin economy has evolved, we have all noticed barriers to its widespread adoption—botnets that attempt to undermine the network, hackers that threaten wallets, and an undeserved reputation stirred by ignorance and inaccurate reporting.

To us, it became clear that something had to be done. We see this foundation as critical for bringing legitimacy to the Bitcoin currency. Only then can we increase its adoption and positive impact on the world’s finance.

BS BS BS.

Surely the foundation should be auditing the companys that have representatives on their board? If not for the simple reason that if the foundation that supposedly brings credibility to Bitcoin is then shown to contain conmen and liers, then the whole community is now tarnished because of this.

Every member is in it for the glory and nothing else.

If they disagree, then prove me wrong? Issues technical and financial audits of all company's represented. Make the data publicly available. Run consumer usage surveys. DO ANYTHING TO ADD CREDIBILITY TO THE FOUNDATION!



Just my 2 satoshis...

[LiteCoinGuy]

Andreas Antonopoulos

[Musent]

Disband, start over. Just like US government needs to do.

[Pentax]

Disband, start over. Just like US government needs to do.

I'm fine with looking at it that way.  I can't say the Foundation is looking as if it's qualified to lead anything, as it clearly can't even manage itself.

Dream Team the organization that replaces the Foundation, if that is the way people, or individuals, would like to frame it.

Pretty much Tomato, Tomatoe, as far as I'm concerned.  Who is most qualified, right now, to take a position of leadership for the bitcoin community.

[Musent]

Disband, start over. Just like US government needs to do.

I'm fine with looking at it that way.  I can't say the Foundation is looking as if it's qualified to lead anything, as it clearly can't even manage itself.

Dream Team the organization that replaces the Foundation, if that is the way people, or individuals, would like to frame it.

Pretty much Tomato, Tomatoe, as far as I'm concerned.  Who is most qualified, right now, to take a position of leadership for the bitcoin community.

It's really hard to say who would be the best to take the leadership. Can't think of anyone off the top of my head.

[Gabi]

Disband
Stay disbanded
Do not reform

[SkyscraperFarms]

Every single person who has an address should be added to the board.

[MegaHustlr]

Andreas Antonopoulos

Nah get jesus

[exocytosis]

Lord Evelyn Rothschild.

[augustocroppo]

Karpeles is gone.  we'll see how far down the legal sinkhole he goes, and just how dirty he is.  Based on that joint statement put out by Coinbase, Circle, et al, I think Mark has been a bad, bad, boy, but that's another thread.  At this rate the Foundation's logo should be a prison jumpsuit.

Anyhow, who sits in that empty chair (chairs if you count Charlies)?  If we think the Foundation needs a bit of help selecting people that do not have their heads up their asses, maybe we can forward some suggestions.

So, let's hear yours.  Give reasons why if you're so inclined.  Obviously these folks may be too damn busy, but that doesn't mean we can't ask.

These can be serious or not so much.  This is a serious question, but that doesn't mean I'm dumb enough to think we'll get all serious answers.



For me CEO of Overstock.  He loves it, loves the idea of it, has an independent mindset and knows how the big machine runs.  He'll be able to sniff out the bullshit, identify what checks and balances are missing, and bring some legitimacy to the table.

I'd love to see someone from the financial sector, although I can't think of any of them, at least in the private sector, that I'd trust for two seconds.  In the public sector, it's not much different. 

LoL

Another captain of the industry?

Bitcoin Foundation is an useless entity to protect the Bitcoin software consumers, independent of whoever is sitting at any imaginary chair...

[ashapasa]

Andreas Antonopoulos

i agree

[Pentax]

Karpeles is gone.  we'll see how far down the legal sinkhole he goes, and just how dirty he is.  Based on that joint statement put out by Coinbase, Circle, et al, I think Mark has been a bad, bad, boy, but that's another thread.  At this rate the Foundation's logo should be a prison jumpsuit.

Anyhow, who sits in that empty chair (chairs if you count Charlies)?  If we think the Foundation needs a bit of help selecting people that do not have their heads up their asses, maybe we can forward some suggestions.

So, let's hear yours.  Give reasons why if you're so inclined.  Obviously these folks may be too damn busy, but that doesn't mean we can't ask.

These can be serious or not so much.  This is a serious question, but that doesn't mean I'm dumb enough to think we'll get all serious answers.



For me CEO of Overstock.  He loves it, loves the idea of it, has an independent mindset and knows how the big machine runs.  He'll be able to sniff out the bullshit, identify what checks and balances are missing, and bring some legitimacy to the table.

I'd love to see someone from the financial sector, although I can't think of any of them, at least in the private sector, that I'd trust for two seconds.  In the public sector, it's not much different. 

LoL

Another captain of the industry?

Bitcoin Foundation is an useless entity to protect the Bitcoin software consumers, independent of whoever is sitting at any imaginary chair...

sure, I'll take someone with his experience as one input out of several.

BTC Foundation protects nothing, that's obvious, although it, or something like it is necessary to deal with the system as it exists.

We can do nothing and form nothing, however, someone has to deal with the regulators, the banks, the others who would prefer that it fail. 

IMO that means some organization that has the purpose that the Foundation currently has in promoting bitcoin, but is manned by people that are actually capable of forwarding that mission without someone going to jail every other week.

[vm_mpn]

Eric Cartman would be logical replacement at this point

[augustocroppo]

sure, I'll take someone with his experience as one input out of several.

BTC Foundation protects nothing, that's obvious, although it, or something like it is necessary to deal with the system as it exists.

We can do nothing and form nothing, however, someone has to deal with the regulators, the banks, the others who would prefer that it fail.  

IMO that means some organization that has the purpose that the Foundation currently has in promoting bitcoin, but is manned by people that are actually capable of forwarding that mission without someone going to jail every other week.

You must be naïve or something... The CEO of whatever company is going to work to increase his profits, not to protect the consumers. In his interactions with regulators, banks and others, he is going to take decisions which benefits his business and not the consumers interests.

[hilariousandco]

I don't think we need to replace him or even need the board.

Andreas Antonopoulos

Isn't he already on the board in some capacity?

[Pentax]

sure, I'll take someone with his experience as one input out of several.

BTC Foundation protects nothing, that's obvious, although it, or something like it is necessary to deal with the system as it exists.

We can do nothing and form nothing, however, someone has to deal with the regulators, the banks, the others who would prefer that it fail.  

IMO that means some organization that has the purpose that the Foundation currently has in promoting bitcoin, but is manned by people that are actually capable of forwarding that mission without someone going to jail every other week.

You must be naïve or something... The CEO of whatever company is going to work to increase his profits, not to protect the consumers. In his interactions with regulators, banks and others, he is going to take decisions which benefits his business and not the consumers interests.

I'm not in any way naive.  Using a logical fallacy such as that to discredit the other person's opinion without basis isn't really all that convincing.

Your position seems to be that anyone with any experience that's actually out in the world doing something will be corrupt.   That ignores an awful lot, I think, such as proper structure, a system of oversight and checks and balances, which obviously need to be worked on over there also, etc., etc., etc.

do you have a solution/suggestion?  it's fine if you don't and it's fine if your solution is to do nothing in the belief that the foundation, or anything like it is unnecessary, however, painting someone as naive because they don't share that opinion isn't actually a point of logic in any conversation, and some might say it shows quite a bit of naivete itself.  

so, if you've got a solution, please propose it and support it if you can.  If not, no biggie, I'm just looking to generate conversation on what's next, as there is a next.   There is always a next.  

[justusranvier]

This is a first.

This thread isn't just posted in the wrong section of the forum - it's in the wrong forum entirely.

[Pentax]

This is a first.

This thread isn't just posted in the wrong section of the forum - it's in the wrong forum entirely.

Wait, is this a Bitcoin forum?  

Well, shit, and here I thought I was posting this discussion about bitcoin leadership on a cooking forum.

[kkaspar]

Eric Cartman would be logical replacement at this point

Eric Cartman and Mark Karpeles isn't the same person?