Bitcoin Forum
August 24, 2019, 01:45:14 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.18.0 [Torrent] (New!)
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Hacked account activity  (Read 94 times)
Steamtyme
Hero Member
*****
Online Online

Activity: 742
Merit: 1152



View Profile WWW
August 11, 2018, 03:48:53 AM
Last edit: August 11, 2018, 01:51:04 PM by Steamtyme
 #1

With the slew of hacked or locked accounts awaiting recovery should there be a mechanism to reallocate the temporary accounts: Activity, Merit and Smerit.

I'm not even sure I've seen an account recovered, but it is inevitable that some will be. It would be nice if these members could feel like it isn't time wasted. My thoughts are that if an account is recovered, the user will have created a temporary account to follow the steps for account recovery.

From here they can carry on being a member of the forum. Upon their account being returned, all stats should be merged including posts and feedback; but the first 3 are what most would be interested in.

Edit: A few things I forgot.

When the main account is recovered the temporary account has to be locked for any transfer of activity or Merit. Ideally the signature space would then be used to link the profiles. This could help with preserving post history, because transferring posts would probably be more hassle than it's worth. That would also be helpful in linking feedback.


1566611114
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566611114

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566611114
Reply with quote  #2

1566611114
Report to moderator
1566611114
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566611114

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566611114
Reply with quote  #2

1566611114
Report to moderator
1566611114
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566611114

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566611114
Reply with quote  #2

1566611114
Report to moderator
"This isn't the kind of software where we can leave so many unresolved bugs that we need a tracker for them." -- Satoshi
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1566611114
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566611114

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566611114
Reply with quote  #2

1566611114
Report to moderator
1566611114
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566611114

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566611114
Reply with quote  #2

1566611114
Report to moderator
mdayonliner
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 363


I always respected forum rules even private ones


View Profile WWW
August 11, 2018, 09:30:16 AM
 #2

From here they can carry on being a member of the forum. Upon their account being returned, all stats should be merged including posts and feedback;
The idea seems nice however how would you do this merge things? There will be data loses and this could create a mess which could be bigger than account recovery. In the merging process we will see alter in merit system and trust system which is also against the forum rule. Remember merit and trust are not moderated.

Quote
but the first 3 are what most would be interested in.
What did you mean by first 3?

Quote
reallocate the temporary accounts: Activity, Merit and Smerit.
You are talking about altering Merit and sMerit which we know is not on the rules. Activities can be done but this can create a mess on data arrangement, quoting etc.

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
So, I am willingly locking mdayonliner. Thank you BitcoinTalk. Be addictive, be a Bitcoiner.
vlad230
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 532
Merit: 276



View Profile
August 11, 2018, 11:47:56 AM
 #3

I agree OP has good ideas & intentions but I think recovering the accounts would be easier to do than merging them, don't you agree?  Smiley Not to mention that you would keep your post history which is more important than any of those metrics.

I think the solution here would be to assign more people to investigate the cases. Now, I know mods have a lot of work to do but maybe we can select trusted members that could volunteer to help out - a system that is working fine already with the merit sources.

I know I'm not a trusted member here but I would be willing to help out if needed.
Steamtyme
Hero Member
*****
Online Online

Activity: 742
Merit: 1152



View Profile WWW
August 11, 2018, 01:47:27 PM
 #4

The idea seems nice however how would you do this merge things? There will be data loses and this could create a mess which could be bigger than account recovery.

It's not like they are recovering a large amount of accounts in a day. A program could be written to automate this but I would propose it be a manual adjustment carried out by the Admins. Like with anything there could be human error, but overall it would be simple addition, which I think is well within the skillset of Admins.

Quote
In the merging process we will see alter in merit system and trust system which is also against the forum rule. Remember merit and trust are not moderated.

Nothing about my suggestion has anything to do with moderating. In regards to feedback that can be handled by the users themselves, but would require users to know when dealing with an alt account. I suggested that because along with the good, should a member chose to be untrustworthy I feel the red tag should follow them.
Your right we would see an altering of Merit, but it would be more of a reallocation from the temporary account to the recovered account. There would be no net increase or decrease in the total amount in the system.

I don't recall anything in the rules prohibiting this. I would see this as a role filled by the Admin team.

I agree OP has good ideas & intentions but I think recovering the accounts would be easier to do than merging them, don't you agree?  Smiley Not to mention that you would keep your post history which is more important than any of those metrics.

You may have missed the general idea. This plan is in addition to account recovery. The idea is that after the account is recovered, the members original account be awarded the accrued activity and merit from the temporary account.

Edited OP.


mdayonliner
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 363


I always respected forum rules even private ones


View Profile WWW
August 11, 2018, 03:31:27 PM
 #5

I would propose it be a manual adjustment carried out by the Admins.
They are having hard time recovering the accounts and on top of it you are asking them to merge posts and other stuffs. Too ambitious I guess  Grin

Quote
I don't recall anything in the rules prohibiting this.
Merits are not moderated, trusts are not moderated.


I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
So, I am willingly locking mdayonliner. Thank you BitcoinTalk. Be addictive, be a Bitcoiner.
jenia2
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 70
Merit: 1


View Profile
August 11, 2018, 05:26:22 PM
 #6

I agree OP has good ideas & intentions but I think recovering the accounts would be easier to do than merging them, don't you agree?  Smiley

exactly. The idea is nice, the problem is the recovery is already the simplest job ever that requires 2 minutes. The suggested here scheme requires actually more work Cheesy
Steamtyme
Hero Member
*****
Online Online

Activity: 742
Merit: 1152



View Profile WWW
August 11, 2018, 08:15:47 PM
 #7

You're right.

This in no way replaces the recovery of an account. This is meant as a step after recovery, to provide incentive to remain a valued member of the community while someone waits on recovery.




Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!