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August 11, 2018, 04:18:13 PM Last edit: August 13, 2018, 12:40:02 AM by ICOEthics |
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What happened: FAKE TEAM / Created on PHOTOSHOP Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311470.0 https://archive.is/Fsfxq Reference Link: http://help-coin.net/ https://archive.is/u1DquPossible the entire team is FAKE ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ficoethics.com%2Fimgs%2Fhelpcoin%2Ffaketeam.JPG&t=665&c=Eqs4LITbXEetPg) VALERIA ? (no last name, maybe they dont know her last name) We found this person (picture 2) with this image: https://my-hit.org/user/Leraroza/ (FAKE / BAD PHOTOSHOP JOB) Real or not? what about these? https://pixers.lu/papiers-peints/belle-femme-blonde-aux-longs-cheveux-boucles-46188568 (model) https://images.wallpaperscraft.com/image/hair_eyes_blonde_photo_shoot_63971_2560x1080.jpgThis is a bad photoshop and you clearly see what they did. http://icoethics.com/imgs/helpcoin/3fake.jpg- Used the face of a model ( you can see the hair, the strange hand, etc..) By the way, that hand is strange, try to put your hand on that position, with a thumb facing outside. - changed color of eyes, changed nose, added that ugly black straight hair wig. The rest of the team we are investigating. We found some information that will share more later. But we would like to ask you all to join this investigation.
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AlexDevICO
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August 11, 2018, 07:02:31 PM |
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Are you okay? The team is absolutely real!
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August 11, 2018, 07:20:30 PM Last edit: August 11, 2018, 08:04:34 PM by AlexDevICO |
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August 11, 2018, 09:47:21 PM |
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Yes it's me. What's next? What do you want to prove? Where is the scum you are writing about? Do not disgrace yourself, Sherlock Holmes, we have a real team and a real project!
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August 11, 2018, 09:53:05 PM |
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What if the pictures are not fresh, you can call the project a fake??? You have contact with these people. What's the problem??? There are real people who have access to them, you will not know something to complain about and just blame!!! You earn this?
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August 11, 2018, 10:05:04 PM Last edit: August 12, 2018, 12:02:25 AM by marlboroza |
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What if the pictures are not fresh, you can call the project a fake??? You have contact with these people. What's the problem??? There are real people who have access to them, you will not know something to complain about and just blame!!! You earn this?
Quoted for record and your profile is archived here http://archive.is/ys56h. Now, I have never said this is fake project. I asked simple question, as I see two different names and two different locations in social media accounts which were given by AlexDevICO here - which one is it? As potential investor I have certain doubts and this is not a way to talk to potential investors. So how about some fresh pictures, not 4 years old pictures from VK which has been hacked 2 years ago https://thehackernews.com/2016/06/vk-com-data-breach.html? You seems don't have problem showing 4 years old pictures but you rant when potential investor ask you new pictures. That certainly raise more questions about this project, and I believe, that I, potential investor have every right to ask you everything about your project and your team members which are publicly available anyway, don't you think?
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August 11, 2018, 10:30:48 PM |
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I think I can publish any of my photos. But the publication of my photos without my permission is a violation of my rights. We do not hide behind strangers, this is our photo. And further - the project economy suffers because of these posts. This is direct harm. I suggest removing posts from the topic. I hope you understand that the project and its team are not scam.
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August 11, 2018, 10:31:29 PM |
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What if the pictures are not fresh, you can call the project a fake??? You have contact with these people. What's the problem??? There are real people who have access to them, you will not know something to complain about and just blame!!! You earn this?
Quoted for record and your profile is archived here http://archive.is/ys56h. Now, I have never said this is fake project. I asked simple question, as I see two different names and two different locations in social media accounts which were given by AlexDevICO here - which one is it? As potential investor I have certain doubts and this is not a way to talk to potential investors. So how about some fresh pictures, not 4 years old pictures from VK which has been hacked 2 years ago https://thehackernews.com/2016/06/vk-com-data-breach.html? You seems don't have problem showing 4 years old pictures but you rant when potential investor ask you new pictures. That certainly raise more questions about this project, and I believe, that I, potential investor have every right to as you everithing about your project and your team members which are public anyway, don't you think? I personally know Valery! Girl 8 years of experience in charity!!! On Facebook she has 2 names because of political differences. There are 2 social network and telegrams. Why don't you talk to her? People are doing good work, you are doing this, you will get in the way!!! What personally whot good do you do? You help the elderly? Maybe orphans? What have you done, besides, that accused the charity project scam??? If you are accused of scam why continue this topic? Guys are not professionals, this is their first and only project with which they have long been engaged. And I am confident that the project will be completed! Why the attitude?
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August 11, 2018, 10:48:41 PM |
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I think I can publish any of my photos. But the publication of my photos without my permission is a violation of my rights. We do not hide behind strangers, this is our photo. And further - the project economy suffers because of these posts. This is direct harm. I suggest removing posts from the topic. I hope you understand that the project and its team are not scam.
You seems fine with publishing photos of your "team members" but you think publishing yours is violation of your right. That is very interesting but OK, lets do it your way. I opened topic here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4875815.0 if you don't mind answering there, and @ICOethics I am not sure if this is against forum rules to post these pictures here, but I would suggest you anyway to do it in investigation board and remove other pictures from this and ICO announcement thread. I will raise this question in meta.
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August 11, 2018, 11:00:30 PM |
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I think I can publish any of my photos. But the publication of my photos without my permission is a violation of my rights. We do not hide behind strangers, this is our photo. And further - the project economy suffers because of these posts. This is direct harm. I suggest removing posts from the topic. I hope you understand that the project and its team are not scam.
You seems fine with publishing photos of your "team members" but you think publishing yours is violation of your right. That is very interesting but OK, lets do it your way. I opened topic here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4875815.0 if you don't mind answering there, and @ICOethics I am not sure if this is against forum rules to post these pictures here, but I would suggest you anyway to do it in investigation board and remove other pictures from this and ICO announcement thread. I will raise this question in meta. I can`t see this topic ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."
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August 11, 2018, 11:14:13 PM |
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I can`t see this topic ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you." Post is quoted by your shill shitposter account 7 posts above this one and also you didn't answer me my question which is first post above your previous post.
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August 11, 2018, 11:20:06 PM |
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I can prove that the team is not a fake. I think I already did it. 1. By law, the publication of other people's photos without permission is a violation of privacy. I did not give permission to anyone. From the team members I have these permits. Only on published photos. 2. Unfounded accusations in the scam harm the economy of the project. I consider this as wrecking, slander or extortion of money. 3. If the posts are not deleted - I will pass all the information to our lawyers. According to them, more than 4 norms of the law have been violated.
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August 11, 2018, 11:51:05 PM Last edit: August 12, 2018, 12:04:24 AM by marlboroza Merited by morvillz7z (1) |
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I can prove that the team is not a fake. I think I already did it. 1. By law, the publication of other people's photos without permission is a violation of privacy. I did not give permission to anyone. From the team members I have these permits. Only on published photos. 2. Unfounded accusations in the scam harm the economy of the project. I consider this as wrecking, slander or extortion of money.
1) You posted pictures on social media profiles which are publicly available so there isn't any violation of privacy because you lost your privacy the moment you posted these pictures on social media. Second, you posted these pictures here, in this topic, together with facebook and VK profiles which, if you scroll this topic up, raised certain questions, from me, potential investor - I linked them with dates, from social media which YOU provided, nothing more. 2) No one asked you for money. Stop lying. Why did you post 4 year old picture available on social media as a proof that this project is legit? I can find these pictures myself like I can find 4 year old pictures of anyone who has them on their social media. People don't run around with old pictures and ranting about lawsuit if their project is legit when potential investor ask them simple question, especially for charity project. And on side note, hypothetically speaking, do you think someone holding shotgun looks like person who is behind charity program? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
3. If the posts are not deleted - I will pass all the information to our lawyers. According to them, more than 4 norms of the law have been violated. Now, quote me 4 norms of law which have been violated. I can prove that the team is not a fake. I think I already did it. Then it won't be hard for you to do what potential investor asked you to do, right: Where do you see the scam? Do you need more photos? Delete the post.
You see, you asked yourself do we need more photos. Yes, as potential investors we do and we like to see new photos taken today.
Post is quoted by your shill shitposter account 7 posts above this one and also you didn't answer me my question which is first post above your previous post.
and...i am co-founder, my last name Kravchenko. Is everything all right now? I don't remember asking you your name. I asked you something else.
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August 12, 2018, 12:02:49 AM |
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I can prove that the team is not a fake. I think I already did it. 1. By law, the publication of other people's photos without permission is a violation of privacy. I did not give permission to anyone. From the team members I have these permits. Only on published photos. 2. Unfounded accusations in the scam harm the economy of the project. I consider this as wrecking, slander or extortion of money.
1) You posted pictures on social media profiles which are publicly available so there isn't any violation of privacy because you lost your privacy the moment you posted these pictures on social media. Second, you posted these pictures here, in this topic, together with facebook and VK profiles which, if you scroll up this topic above, raised certain questions, from me, potential investor - I linked them with dates, from social media which YOU provided, nothing more. 2) No one asked you for money. Stop lying. Why did you post 4 year old picture available on social media as a proof that this project is legit? I can find these pictures myself like I can find 4 year old pictures of anyone who has them on their social media. People don't run around with old pictures and ranting about lawsuit if their project is legit when potential investor ask them simple question, especially for charity project. And on side note, hypothetically speaking, do you think someone holding shotgun looks like person who is behind charity program? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
3. If the posts are not deleted - I will pass all the information to our lawyers. According to them, more than 4 norms of the law have been violated. Now, quote me 4 norms of law which have been violated. I can prove that the team is not a fake. I think I already did it. Then it won't be hard for you to do what potential investor asked you to do, right: Where do you see the scam? Do you need more photos? Delete the post.
You see, you asked yourself do we need more photos. Yes, as potential investors we do and we like to see new photos taken today.
Post is quoted by your shill shitposter account 7 posts above this one and also you didn't answer me my question which is first post above your previous post.
and...i am co-founder, my last name Kravchenko. Is everything all right now? I don't remember asking you your name. I asked you something else. It's one thing to want or do not want to invest in the project, completely different, unreasonable to blame the fake!!!!
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August 12, 2018, 12:30:54 AM |
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I do not think I should justify myself for someone for my photos, which I posted. Those photos that are laid out for the project - to refer to the project, but not others. What does the photo with the gun have to do with the project? Are you out of your mind? You wig is not that, then the photos are not those. Who gives you the right to judge? Tomorrow I pass these cases to lawyers if on normal you do not understand. Good luck! God sees everything. And everything in life comes back, both good and evil.
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August 12, 2018, 12:37:56 AM |
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It's one thing to want or do not want to invest in the project, completely different, unreasonable to blame the fake!!!!
Listen monkey, first of all I have never said this project is fake. Second, if I ever invest in this project I want to make sure that information provided by team is real. Giving old photos, avoiding questions, threatening with lawsuit and so one is not really a way to deal with potential investor who has certain questions. Old photo in a social network with a gun.
Can you read? I said "hypothetically speaking". Google these words and translate them to Russian. It seems you know about this team more than anyone else on this forum, so, which team member are you? My opinion - you received an order to destroy the project and you are looking for any reason for this!!!
That is baseless assumption. I am not here to destroy anything, I am here as potential investor who has few questions. And you greedy!!!
Not at all. I actually donate to charity organizations or when needed(cloths, cosmetics, money etc). How would you not want to destroy the project, you don't do it!
Asking questions about your project =/= destroying project. And I will probably buy few tokens if you answer me my questions because I, as I said, like to donate to charity. And it is evil and nasty, will come back to you!!!
So, which part of the team you are?
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Can you address this: Do you need more photos? Yes, as potential investors we do and we like to see new photos taken today Another question raised: RobertNOD seems to know a lot about your team, which part of your team is he?
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August 12, 2018, 01:45:49 AM Last edit: August 12, 2018, 01:53:18 PM by marlboroza |
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Yeah, I already noticed them in their announcement topic, together with this brand new account BiteClone registered just few moments ago to say specifically in their topic "are you normal" ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Energy solution, charity...what's next? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Arbitrage, lending, medical, AI...betman It is interesting how they are refusing to give something which they've already given - pictures of their team. I mean, they posted 4 years old pictures, they posted facebook account, VK account, AlexDevICO has given their name and said that pictures posted by ICOethics are his but they have problem with new pictures, even after they asked do we need more photos. And to be honest, as potential investor, I really want to know which team member is this shitposter RobertNOD, if you look at his post history http://archive.is/ys56h#selection-1871.36-1871.37 it seems that they discovered project few months ago, but this post certainly raise more questions http://archive.is/hU1sD#selection-6537.0-6537.41 (as no one said anything about photo of a man holding a gun) and together with that brand new account saying the same "are you normal" question. Is it so hard to give something to your potential investor? It is 5 minutes of work, few selfies with today's date.
@morvillz7z just to quick edit this, I missed your point. leraroza already has experience with photoshop and using pictures of dead people EPS Energy Planet Solution - SCAM
Hm, leraroza? Valeria, is that you?
From help-coin announcement thread: Do you plan to add Russian to the site?
Yes, the russian version will appear in may. White paper will be published before the end of April for 2 languages Russian and English.
http://archive.is/lHlXy#selection-3551.1-3553.44
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ICOEthics (OP)
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August 12, 2018, 12:54:39 PM Last edit: August 12, 2018, 01:21:31 PM by ICOEthics |
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This information is great, she isn't alone on this one: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ficoethics.com%2Fimgs%2Fhelpcoin%2Fepscam.JPG&t=665&c=tfRGhH9gafoUqQ) With this new information, what else needs to be added to show that these people don't have good intentions. Using a picture of a deceased person in a scam, it is sad and it is disgusting. We recommend you Alex and Leraroza to take your Help-coin ICO project behind a barn and shoot it!
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