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August 28, 2018, 02:36:25 AM
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Thank you for this public service. I hope you will work on other ICO scams in the altcoin announcement subforum. Also, do you have plans to take your case from the witchhunt, FUD, angry user phase to a full working lawsuit to have the authorities do their job?

yeah but whats the point of making a thread stating MUST AVOID BETKING , I mean he does care about investors right ? if people avoided Betking investors will actually lose more so what's the point ??

as a player you should have a perfect experience with betking , yeah investors agreed on ICO terms and lost money but the site for players is good actually
I have to admit you are the perfect lawyer for the online gambling community! Cheesy

I already informed that BetKing commited an investment fraud with not fulfilling the investment contract seriously. 30% of the investment should have been spent to built up the casino, what clearly did not happen!

Means investors can withdraw from the contract and demand their crypto currencies back!

Betking together with all ICOs that have caused the bagholders of their tokens to lose an amount of their investment in the bear market. I reckon if you go after one, you should go after all. I suggest you to also expand your service to token fraud ICOs.

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August 28, 2018, 02:42:38 AM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?
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August 29, 2018, 06:41:31 PM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?

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August 30, 2018, 07:47:07 PM
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I was booted from the betking telegram channel by Dean for simply asking a harmless question.
It seems like he doesnt appreciate anyone questioning his authority.
The way he edits his own thread and re-locks it is very unethical.
Starting to have my doubts with this guy,
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August 30, 2018, 08:04:12 PM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?
Advertising or announcing such Jackpot price with have corresponding amount on his own wallet to pay up a potential winner then it wont really be a fraud since he do know that theres a 10 in a billion chance to hit it up.
No one knows if he do really mean it or just purely a deceiving stunt to let people come.The question is, did someone wont such jackpot?

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August 30, 2018, 08:25:16 PM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?

Sounds pretty much like fraud to me..
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August 30, 2018, 11:41:17 PM
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I was booted from the betking telegram channel by Dean for simply asking a harmless question.
It seems like he doesnt appreciate anyone questioning his authority.
The way he edits his own thread and re-locks it is very unethical.
Starting to have my doubts with this guy,

Sorry to read about your experiences with Dean Nolan. It seems Dean Nolan wants to censor the chats and communication to stifle any debate that he does not agree to. The only way he can do that is by using formats such as Telegram and Discord.


I agree with you, Dean Nolan does not like any questioning his authority but he also has a tendency to behave like an immature brat without answering questions that were asked and you are absolutely right, Dean Nolan does unlock to post and then re-lock the Betking thread.

He did it because several people have started to question what they see as a scam in the 2017 ICO along with the continuation of selling tokens to gullible investors that will not bring them the rewards they thought or have been alluded to. He thinks by locking the Betking thread he will stifle debate.

One of the posts he made then edited was where he effectively mentioned investors have got themselves to blame for losing their investment because they did not take "due-diligence". After I quoted him several times he edited the post. What sort of idiot would say that when people are saying he siphoned off parts of the ICO funds to pocket himself and people are saying he siphoned off parts of the ICO funds intended for the bankroll to pocket himself. Instead of providing audits to investors he is hiding the information that can prove his conduct.

What are your views about the 50 BTC Jackpot dice game? He advertised it after the ICO but nobody won because it was set up to ensure nobody would win it. Strange behaviour by Dean Nolan.


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August 31, 2018, 01:56:52 PM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?
Advertising or announcing such Jackpot price with have corresponding amount on his own wallet to pay up a potential winner then it wont really be a fraud since he do know that theres a 10 in a billion chance to hit it up.
No one knows if he do really mean it or just purely a deceiving stunt to let people come.The question is, did someone wont such jackpot?

Nobody won 50 BTC Jackpot at Betking by rolling a dice and from what has been written by others it seems Dean Nolan was offering 50 BTC at near impossible odds of 10 billion to one. Why the "jackpot" was withdrawn shortly after it was added is a mystery though some think Dean Nolan received criticism for the underhanded way he promoted the "jackpot" so he has a "max payout" of 10 BTC on the dice page now.

Dean Nolan has spent money from the ICO funds to promote Betking where and when he wanted to (this forum, Medium, etc) and int he manner in which he wanted to (games, jackpots,etc) so the inexperienced it seems as though Dean Nolan is doing a great job with Betking but the reality is that Betking has no chance of being even remotely successful while people see his ICO as a scam, while people see his 50 BTC Jackpot as a myth and while he competes for the same space with sites that have great UIs such as Primedice and Stake are out there. Just the domain name stake.com must have cost significant amounts of money.


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September 03, 2018, 10:18:24 AM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?

Sounds pretty much like fraud to me..

Thank you for the post.

It sounds the same to me too the more I look in to the shady dealings of Dean Nolan and his Betking website.

You are the Official Brand Manager for Primedice and Stake.com, both have an excellent reputation and look well maintained websites with good reviews. Betking and Dean Nolan are not in your league, never will be because their reputation is destroyed. Everybody in the know believes 100% that Dean Nolan only had the ICO to pocket large portions of the ICO funds for himself under the guise of "funding development" part listed in the whitepaper.

With no audits and no accountability towards his investors he feels he is free to do what he wants.

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September 04, 2018, 01:30:52 PM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?

Sounds pretty much like fraud to me..

Thank you for the post.

It sounds the same to me too the more I look in to the shady dealings of Dean Nolan and his Betking website.

You are the Official Brand Manager for Primedice and Stake.com, both have an excellent reputation and look well maintained websites with good reviews. Betking and Dean Nolan are not in your league, never will be because their reputation is destroyed. Everybody in the know believes 100% that Dean Nolan only had the ICO to pocket large portions of the ICO funds for himself under the guise of "funding development" part listed in the whitepaper.

With no audits and no accountability towards his investors he feels he is free to do what he wants.


For current time, I think their trust is still being question, if it this is what really happened from the time they have this issue they should get red trust for scamming the investors but yet they still have some trust there and no one really give up about the ico as well, they still hope their coin is going to rise in the future. As long as they can support their site, I do not think you will be able to get them a red trust either
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September 04, 2018, 02:33:09 PM
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For current time, I think their trust is still being question, if it this is what really happened from the time they have this issue they should get red trust for scamming the investors but yet they still have some trust there and no one really give up about the ico as well, they still hope their coin is going to rise in the future. As long as they can support their site, I do not think you will be able to get them a red trust either

Thank you for the post.

I think the best thing that happened at Betking recently was that Dean Nolan has started to take an active role in the website. Sure it is disgraceful that he has not used any of the ICO funds for "development" and used simple to plugin affiliate games at Livetable but he only added those games and re-added the failed pre-ICO roulette game to show some progress has been made. Those in the know can see exactly what his pattern is.

It would be great to know how much of the ICO money was actually used to "develop" the site and how much was used on Bankroll. Dean Nolan was pathetic in his approach to use close then re-open the same website after the ICO just so he could use it as a get rich quick scheme. Until or unless he allows audits it might never be known about how much profit/loss investors made and where all the funds were spent, how much of those funds remain and of course all those issues surrounding the 30 million Betking tokens that were supposed to be spent on "development, promotion and legal".

About the 50 BTC Jackpot dice game, from what has been said by others it seems he deliberately used misleading text to promote something that was never really technically there in the first place. In my opinion it was fraud and others have said it was fraud. I am trying to see what others have to say (if they remember the "50 BTC Jackpot" dice game).

I appreciate your views about their "trust" and "red trust". As far as game playing is concerned, apart from the 50 BTC Jackpot dice misinformation issue there are not really any big complaints from users with the Betking website. The fact is when I last checked hardly 7-10 concurrent users are on the Betking website at any given time so it is not as if it those numbers and those comments means a lot but most of the issues are with the funding that investors paid for.

If Dean Nolan runs the site with attention then that is great, his users deserve that but I will not conflate the disaster of the ICO to the actual gaming because they are two separate issues.

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September 04, 2018, 09:17:18 PM
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For current time, I think their trust is still being question, if it this is what really happened from the time they have this issue they should get red trust for scamming the investors but yet they still have some trust there and no one really give up about the ico as well, they still hope their coin is going to rise in the future. As long as they can support their site, I do not think you will be able to get them a red trust either



If Dean Nolan runs the site with attention then that is great, his users deserve that but I will not conflate the disaster of the ICO to the actual gaming because they are two separate issues.
It is indeed two separate issues but atleast we do see some efforts but the question is really regarding on the transparency.I thought this thread is already being answered by Dean itself  Cool

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For current time, I think their trust is still being question, if it this is what really happened from the time they have this issue they should get red trust for scamming the investors but yet they still have some trust there and no one really give up about the ico as well, they still hope their coin is going to rise in the future. As long as they can support their site, I do not think you will be able to get them a red trust either



If Dean Nolan runs the site with attention then that is great, his users deserve that but I will not conflate the disaster of the ICO to the actual gaming because they are two separate issues.
It is indeed two separate issues but atleast we do see some efforts but the question is really regarding on the transparency.I thought this thread is already being answered by Dean itself  Cool

Actually there is no any real clarification about what Dean Nolan answer to him, this is what I know from what Dean Nolan said on their betking thread, if only Dean Nolan could answer everything here may be this wont be happened, instead of doing this, all what Dean asked is to privately email them or telegram

@Jolly, are you mind sharing of what he said to you whether it is from telegram or email, he said that your question had been answered and you are not fully agreed to him
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September 05, 2018, 03:51:38 PM
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If Dean Nolan runs the site with attention then that is great, his users deserve that but I will not conflate the disaster of the ICO to the actual gaming because they are two separate issues.
It is indeed two separate issues but atleast we do see some efforts but the question is really regarding on the transparency.I thought this thread is already being answered by Dean itself  Cool

Dean Nolan has not explained anything to anyone. he has effectively banned everyone from posting on the Betking thread because he has locked it. He unlocks it to make a post then locks it again. He has censored it. He also has been accused by users of being controlling on the other channels of communication by banning people that ask questions that he does not like or wants to hide or those he does not want to give answers to.

Dean Nolan is welcomed to explain the key concerns that have been raised against him and his Betking website. We look forward to his answers to the key complaints and concerns if he can be bothered to answer them.

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September 07, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?
Were players aware that the odds to win is 10 billion to one?

Advertising a literally not winnable jackpot is the criminal offense of willful deception!

As we meanwhile all know, his ICO was a willful scam as well as his affiliates scam!
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September 08, 2018, 12:57:31 PM
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Did the qualifying games contribute to the 50 BTC jackpot?

No. He specifically advertised a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game after the ICO to advertise the success of the ICO and to pull customers in. It seems from what people are saying there 50 BTC jackpot never existed so he had no intention of paying it.

From what has been written it seems there was a rollover type which had odds of around 10 billion to one to win the 50 BTC jackpot dice game. So was it fraud to advertise it?
Were players aware that the odds to win is 10 billion to one?

Advertising a literally not winnable jackpot is the criminal offense of willful deception!

As we meanwhile all know, his ICO was a willful scam as well as his affiliates scam!
But all we get is him locking the Betking thread and him trying get me banned (which was ignored) and him throwing his toys out of his pram and spit his dummy out by refusing to answer questions.
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September 08, 2018, 03:11:16 PM
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Were players aware that the odds to win is 10 billion to one?

Advertising a literally not winnable jackpot is the criminal offense of willful deception!

As we meanwhile all know, his ICO was a willful scam as well as his affiliates scam!

No the players never saw the 10 billion to one odds on the website or on the promotions and they did not know they have to roll twice to win it. All thta information was kept hush-hush bu Dean Nolan. All the players saw was "50 BTC Jackpot" or "50 BTC Jackpot dice game" during promotions.

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September 08, 2018, 04:49:06 PM
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Were players aware that the odds to win is 10 billion to one?

Advertising a literally not winnable jackpot is the criminal offense of willful deception!

As we meanwhile all know, his ICO was a willful scam as well as his affiliates scam!

No the players never saw the 10 billion to one odds on the website or on the promotions and they did not know they have to roll twice to win it. All thta information was kept hush-hush bu Dean Nolan. All the players saw was "50 BTC Jackpot" or "50 BTC Jackpot dice game" during promotions.

You talk so much shit lol. Players were made well aware of the terms of the promo and it was removed because no one was interested in it.
No point in running promos that players don't want. I don't know what planet the pair of you are on (though still convinced you and game-protect are same person) where you think removing a promo is fraud.
Every gambling site removes and adds promos all the time.

See that? 3 pages of posts of nonsense when all you needed to do was ask me or anyone who ever played on the site and you would have got an easy answer.

Now go and bury my reply with another 3 pages of posts so no one can see it.
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September 08, 2018, 05:04:54 PM
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Were players aware that the odds to win is 10 billion to one?

Advertising a literally not winnable jackpot is the criminal offense of willful deception!

Out of curiosity, how much do you make a month? I assume writing so much nonsense is a pretty tiring job. BTW what ever happened with your imminent police raid on bitcasino lol.


And trying to look at this jackpot issue as objectively as possible, I don't get the problem. Unless someone won the jackpot, but Dean refused to pay them -- which I see no indication of -- this entire thread seems totally retarded.

There's also a sort of irony in the same posters attacking the jackpot for being shitty while attacking Dean for removing the jackpot.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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September 08, 2018, 05:14:18 PM
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Were players aware that the odds to win is 10 billion to one?

Advertising a literally not winnable jackpot is the criminal offense of willful deception!

As we meanwhile all know, his ICO was a willful scam as well as his affiliates scam!

No the players never saw the 10 billion to one odds on the website or on the promotions and they did not know they have to roll twice to win it. All thta information was kept hush-hush bu Dean Nolan. All the players saw was "50 BTC Jackpot" or "50 BTC Jackpot dice game" during promotions.

You talk so much shit lol. Players were made well aware of the terms of the promo and it was removed because no one was interested in it.
No point in running promos that players don't want. I don't know what planet the pair of you are on (though still convinced you and game-protect are same person) where you think removing a promo is fraud.
Every gambling site removes and adds promos all the time.

See that? 3 pages of posts of nonsense when all you needed to do was ask me or anyone who ever played on the site and you would have got an easy answer.

Now go and bury my reply with another 3 pages of posts so no one can see it.

Hello nice to see you finally make a post here Dean Nolan. I am not going censure any of the threads unlike you who unlocks the main Betking thread to make a post and then locks it again.

There is a list of questions for you to answer, would you please be kind enough to answer them? If yes, please do not post URLs to previous posts. Just simple questions will be put forward and we hope simple answers will be given for all to see. That way several things can be cleared up and clarified. Would you please consider it?

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