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August 12, 2018, 07:12:42 AM
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There are several ideas/suggestions from other members (besides ideas from theymos) that I think are good to apply in this forum even though there are some that have been used but there are other ideas sinking.
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I think it's good if ideas/suggestions are collected on one pinned topic, and this will make it easier for the admin to consider these it's without having to search to the seabed and at least prevent repeated ideas/suggestions.

Here are some suggestions that I think are good if applied in this forum:

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August 12, 2018, 08:14:31 AM
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I've actually been thinking about doing something like this. I've made numerous suggestions to help improve the forum both publicly and  privately in the staff forum, but I don't think a single one has been commented on by theymos in years. Some may be bad ideas or ineffective or ultimately counter-productive that would never be implemented but I never know whether theymos thinks they're good or bad or whether I'm just wasting my time even pursuing them but they should at least be discussed. I would honestly rather him just call the ideas terrible at this point so I can move on with something else and stop wasting my time. Some things like requiring a merit achievement to become a Junior Member and removing signatures from lower ranks aren't disruptive to anyone's freedoms at all and would help greatly and both many staff and users seem to agree. Punishing badly run campaigns also needs to happen. In fact, the signature campaign guidelines thread was even signed off by theymos but he never ended up enforcing them despite several requests.

What I was thinking of is opening a thread where people can make suggestions in a short, concise sentence or two. Once all the suggestions have been made they're all put in another thread and users can vote on which ones they think are a good idea and the ones that get a vote are pushed up to the top and are then ordered by how popular they are. No need do down-vote things as the least popular ones will fall to the bottom. Thus we will be able to see what sort of suggestions are backed by the community or not. There's of course a chance theymos again won't take any notice at all but we really can't keep our heads in the sand for much longer as the forum is overtaken by one liner sig spammers, bots and farmers almost 100%.

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August 12, 2018, 08:41:45 AM
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I've given up on making suggestions. I uninstalled the ILIAS academy that I set up, as i didn't get one comment on it. The ask a legendary project looks like going the same way, but in this case I'll keep it for my own personal use. It will give me somewhere to list decent threads by category, and i can watch those to see if any meritable posts are made. Three or four members are using my blab chat room , and that has been useful to hone a few projects - mainly the Fit to Talk one.

At the moment, it seems you have to take any discussions into a private room/board to avoid spammers.

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August 12, 2018, 09:02:03 AM
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Yahoo62278's idea about google forms is good. Some managers already use it. But I do not think that this will reduce the amount of spam on the forum. If you put the threshold of participation in signature with a Full Member, there will be a strong outflow of participants to other forums. I noticed that some managers are already starting to lead the bounty on https://moonforum.net/ because there are more restrictions. In General, the decision to take theymos. Sorry for my English.

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August 12, 2018, 09:27:24 AM
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well, the key to all that is to build a discussion that gives real effects and indeed there must be parties who can have access to execute it and participate in the discussion.

then the problem arose when the spammer infiltrated the discussion as @Jet Cash said. Indeed this is a dilemma.

are there some ideas/suggestions that will be implemented in the near future.

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August 12, 2018, 09:59:02 AM
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I've actually been thinking about doing something like this. I've made numerous suggestions to help improve the forum both publicly and  privately in the staff forum, but I don't think a single one has been commented on by theymos in years. Some may be bad ideas or ineffective or ultimately counter-productive that would never be implemented but I never know whether theymos thinks they're good or bad or whether I'm just wasting my time even pursuing them but they should at least be discussed. I would honestly rather him just call the ideas terrible at this point so I can move on with something else and stop wasting my time. Some things like requiring a merit achievement to become a Junior Member and removing signatures from lower ranks aren't disruptive to anyone's freedoms at all and would help greatly and both many staff and users seem to agree. Punishing badly run campaigns also needs to happen. In fact, the signature campaign guidelines thread was even signed off by theymos but he never ended up enforcing them despite several requests.

What I was thinking of is opening a thread where people can make suggestions in a short, concise sentence or two. Once all the suggestions have been made they're all put in another thread and users can vote on which ones they think are a good idea and the ones that get a vote are pushed up to the top and are then ordered by how popular they are. No need do down-vote things as the least popular ones will fall to the bottom. Thus we will be able to see what sort of suggestions are backed by the community or not. There's of course a chance theymos again won't take any notice at all but we really can't keep our heads in the sand for much longer as the forum is overtaken by one liner sig spammers, bots and farmers almost 100%.
Dude... I swear to lord,i was planning to create a thread compiling all of bitcointalk issues, so far this is what I have come up with :

- Very slow axcount recovery
- Horrible security features
- Account farming and shitposting bots.
- Modless off-topic board.
- No official rules, no guidelines for signature managers.
- Useless legendary rank. (It has no perks Angry)
- 24 hour cool down button for deleting posts being loopholed by using self moderated thread.
- Bots using spinbots or article spinners.
- Intangible new bitcointalk forum.

^Bitcointalk issues. I'll edit this to add more perhaps.

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August 12, 2018, 03:43:04 PM
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- No official rules, no guidelines for signature managers.
Just a small correction - hilariousandco made signature campaign guidelines for participants and managers few years ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0
But yeah, there are zero regulations and rules for sig campaigns. Managers are only punished when they are asking to post in ANN thread.

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August 13, 2018, 04:23:47 PM
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if I can suggest whether the login form can be informed about an original URL (bitcointalk.org), this thing at least reduces hacked account cases (phishing).

This just example:



And if successfully logged in, there is a popup of information about some topics that must be read. this info has two conditions (a checkbox and a button):
1. Do not show again
2. Done

That information popup when first applied, "next" an information can be ignored by pressing check in the checkbox and pressing "Done" button but it is only for members who already have 60 of activity.

This can indirectly force the "newbies" to know some valuable topics in this forum because every time they successfully logged in, there is information popup that will continue to appear as long as they ("newbies") do not have 60 of activity.

irrespective of whether they read the information or immediately press the Done button but at least this forum have tried to provide valuable information.

this just example (information popup):


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August 14, 2018, 10:50:36 AM
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- No official rules, no guidelines for signature managers.
Just a small correction - hilariousandco made signature campaign guidelines for participants and managers few years ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0
But yeah, there are zero regulations and rules for sig campaigns. Managers are only punished when they are asking to post in ANN thread.

That was a waste of time and they're useless when they're not being enforced. We need theymos to start blacklisting signatures for it to be effective which he agreed to do but never did despite several requests. I don't know whether he changed his mind or just doesn't have time but I'm really not sure why he isn't actively pursuing repercussions for those who are directly causing the deterioration of the forum. If there were rules for ICO campaigns and punishments for those who didn't follow them then they would start playing by the rules because this forum is too valuable to them. If you want to be able to advertise for free here then do so in an acceptable fashion. The forum would be a much better place if it wasn't for ICO campaigns and their users crapping all over it.

if I can suggest whether the login form can be informed about an original URL (bitcointalk.org), this thing at least reduces hacked account cases (phishing).
This can indirectly force the "newbies" to know some valuable topics in this forum because every time they successfully logged in, there is information popup that will continue to appear as long as they ("newbies") do not have 60 of activity.

irrespective of whether they read the information or immediately press the Done button but at least this forum have tried to provide valuable information.

this just example (information popup):



These are all basically things I've suggested in the past.

I created a thread to make suggestions to the forum here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.new#new

Once people have made their suggestions I'll open a new thread to beginning voting on them.  

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August 14, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
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These are all basically things I've suggested in the past.
oh sorry, maybe I missed it.

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I created a thread to make suggestions to the forum here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.new#new

Once people have made their suggestions I'll open a new thread to beginning voting on them. 
very happy to hear it, maybe Theymos can consider ideas/suggestions that are explained by trusted members like you.

I think it's good if ideas/suggestions are collected on one pinned topic
And hopefully, this comes true, has a topic that includes brilliant ideas from exceptional members

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