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August 13, 2018, 12:52:03 PM
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This question has been in my mind for awhile and here is my view.

Yes unemployment can only be solved by the state. The state has all of the finances and materials to create many many many businesses that can create enough job opportunities for the majority can be empowered and later on employ others through their businesses.
How to solve unemployment.
-limit the imports
-make the foreign products expensive.If foreign milk is 1 dollar and american dollar is also 1 dollar make the foreign one 2 dollars by law and the state will win the 1 dollar from it.
That will make the foreign products more expensive and people will avoid them buying more products of his/her country.That will give more money to the state (or induviduals) so more factories will be created,more people will work,more products will be created,the state will have more exports so more money that will help it create more factories giving even more jobs.
Whats your thought?
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August 13, 2018, 01:10:37 PM
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The government responsibility in this matter is quite big and it has to be done on long term and short term politics:

- help students get training in the fields there is need for jobs, not only what they'd like to do (maybe everybody wants to become astronaut, but there's much bigger need for IT&C engineers, for example)
  This is long term and has to be adjusted maybe even yearly. And it depends on the global prices for the input "materials" and resulted "products", since you cannot sanction imports/exports forever.

- give some help to the businesses that create jobs for long time
  Various subventions or bonuses. Better get 2 people work 4h/day than one working 8h (!), since both will be more fresh for the job and you'll get to feed 2 families instead of one.

- Help people getting bigger families = more children.
  Yes this means that in the future you may need even more jobs, but you also need more food, more schools, more cars, more shelter and so on. It's a cycle.


Maybe there other ideas/directions too, these were the first 3 that came into my mind.

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August 13, 2018, 01:37:40 PM
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Yes, unemployment can only be solved by the state The state has all of the finances and materials to create many many many businesses that can create enough job opportunities for all.
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August 13, 2018, 03:08:58 PM
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This question has been in my mind for awhile and here is my view.

Yes unemployment can only be solved by the state. The state has all of the finances and materials to create many many many businesses that can create enough job opportunities for the majority can be empowered and later on employ others through their businesses.
How to solve unemployment.
-limit the imports
-make the foreign products expensive.If foreign milk is 1 dollar and american dollar is also 1 dollar make the foreign one 2 dollars by law and the state will win the 1 dollar from it.
That will make the foreign products more expensive and people will avoid them buying more products of his/her country.That will give more money to the state (or induviduals) so more factories will be created,more people will work,more products will be created,the state will have more exports so more money that will help it create more factories giving even more jobs.
Whats your thought?
The last thing we need is more government businesses. I think the best thing the state can do is finally start educating people about entrepreneurship. I don't like the current education at all, but it exists and most people go through it. I think it's so ridiculous that there's usually hardly any talk about entrepreneurship in schools. Where do you think jobs come from!? We need more people starting businesses and doing something on their own. It has to start from the bottom. Children need to understand that starting a business is a fine option to make a living.
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August 13, 2018, 05:21:56 PM
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This question has been in my mind for awhile and here is my view.

Yes unemployment can only be solved by the state. The state has all of the finances and materials to create many many many businesses that can create enough job opportunities for the majority can be empowered and later on employ others through their businesses.
How to solve unemployment.
-limit the imports
-make the foreign products expensive.If foreign milk is 1 dollar and american dollar is also 1 dollar make the foreign one 2 dollars by law and the state will win the 1 dollar from it.

That will make the foreign products more expensive and people will avoid them buying more products of his/her country.That will give more money to the state (or induviduals) so more factories will be created,more people will work,more products will be created,the state will have more exports so more money that will help it create more factories giving even more jobs.
Whats your thought?

Not that simple though. More efficient producers can sell their stuff for cheaper, you keep those out of your country and costs skyrocket.

In the end what you'll get is a tariff war, just as other countries would find it harder to sell to you, you'd also find it harder sell to them.
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August 13, 2018, 05:29:42 PM
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Regulations made by goverments are causing the unemployment.
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August 14, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
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Not that simple though. More efficient producers can sell their stuff for cheaper, you keep those out of your country and costs skyrocket.

In the end what you'll get is a tariff war, just as other countries would find it harder to sell to you, you'd also find it harder sell to them.
Yeah, I guess that's also something to keep in mind. Some countries could retaliate. If you ban their exports to your country, they may ban your exports. The best way to bring money seems to be to export. I know that some countries already do something like the OP described. Brazil has very high import taxes. It's usually better to buy things made domestically there than imported things. The sad thing though is that many things are not made there, like computers. Brazilians constantly buy their electronics in other countries to bring back home. This makes life more expensive for citizens and less convenient.
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August 14, 2018, 09:48:28 AM
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Yes, a government is primarily responsible for living standards and conditions of their citizens, so they are responsible for it, sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly, but they're not the only party responsible for unemployment, of course.
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August 14, 2018, 11:17:29 AM
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Yes, it is. It establishes the policies and rules for its people and if those policies and rules prevent you from being employed, then it is the government's fault.
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August 14, 2018, 11:23:18 AM
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Yes, it is. It establishes the policies and rules for its people and if those policies and rules prevent you from being employed, then it is the government's fault.

Agree. They're the ones who define the rules of the game.
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August 14, 2018, 01:25:13 PM
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This question has been in my mind for awhile and here is my view.

Yes unemployment can only be solved by the state. The state has all of the finances and materials to create many many many businesses that can create enough job opportunities for the majority can be empowered and later on employ others through their businesses.
How to solve unemployment.
-limit the imports
-make the foreign products expensive.If foreign milk is 1 dollar and american dollar is also 1 dollar make the foreign one 2 dollars by law and the state will win the 1 dollar from it.
That will make the foreign products more expensive and people will avoid them buying more products of his/her country.That will give more money to the state (or induviduals) so more factories will be created,more people will work,more products will be created,the state will have more exports so more money that will help it create more factories giving even more jobs.
Whats your thought?

unemployment isnt the crisis the crisis is an income crisis,

cryptomarket will create lots of jobs, even more that people want and many that will be damaging for the security of the people

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August 14, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
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Yes, unemployment can only be solved by the state The state has all of the finances and materials to create many many many businesses that can create enough job opportunities for all.

Hell no, the state always makes less effective investments than the market. Its job is to create a good environment for people to create jobs and businesses, not the other way around.

If you let people do their thing, you won't have a big unemployment.
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August 14, 2018, 04:01:44 PM
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Yes government are partly responsible for the creation of jobs by enacting laws and policies that will that will create good business environment for entrepreneurs and investors
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August 14, 2018, 06:38:48 PM
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Not that simple though. More efficient producers can sell their stuff for cheaper, you keep those out of your country and costs skyrocket.

In the end what you'll get is a tariff war, just as other countries would find it harder to sell to you, you'd also find it harder sell to them.
Yeah, I guess that's also something to keep in mind. Some countries could retaliate. If you ban their exports to your country, they may ban your exports. The best way to bring money seems to be to export. I know that some countries already do something like the OP described. Brazil has very high import taxes. It's usually better to buy things made domestically there than imported things. The sad thing though is that many things are not made there, like computers. Brazilians constantly buy their electronics in other countries to bring back home. This makes life more expensive for citizens and less convenient.

Oh, didn't even know that is a thing in Brazil. So, they go abroad just to buy stuff?

It's really a balancing act. At one end you want to keep industries at home to have people employed but at the same time you want those people to be able to make the most out of their income with cheap goods.
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August 15, 2018, 12:01:21 AM
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I partly agree with this statement. Governments have tremendous financial means. They are powerful and could solve a lot of problems. Unfortunately, some people are just lazy. Naturally, they do not want to work. They just wait for their governments to give them money. Therefore it is hard to governments to help. It is also good to consider other possibilities such as self employment. It is good to be an entrepreneur. Job is good when you have one. When you are jobless, you can create yourself. After all, we are creators!
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August 15, 2018, 12:17:48 AM
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This question has been in my mind for awhile and here is my view.

Yes unemployment can only be solved by the state. The state has all of the finances and materials to create many many many businesses that can create enough job opportunities for the majority can be empowered and later on employ others through their businesses.
How to solve unemployment.
-limit the imports
-make the foreign products expensive.If foreign milk is 1 dollar and american dollar is also 1 dollar make the foreign one 2 dollars by law and the state will win the 1 dollar from it.
That will make the foreign products more expensive and people will avoid them buying more products of his/her country.That will give more money to the state (or induviduals) so more factories will be created,more people will work,more products will be created,the state will have more exports so more money that will help it create more factories giving even more jobs.
Whats your thought?

Yes, He is. The government surely solves the unemployment, but we should know that it is not a simple problems even though in many countries it is as a common problems. In fact, we see that many countries seem still put much concern on it.

The state has all finances and materials you said, but the problem is not only about it. There are a lot of others problems to solve. Our task is not support our government start from a small or simple thing to solve this problem. And I thing Bitcoin contributes in helping the government reducing the unemployment.
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August 15, 2018, 01:43:26 AM
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yes..one reason why they are put there    see we in the UK although  most of our politicians are ass holes and they are   FACT we still own them 
you don't like them vote them out..Also  you can become a politician if you have the right policies that your people likes   just need to get out and have ago ..

I pay taxes and some of those taxes get used to pay for politicians to make our lives better NOT their lives but ours  SO  what ever happens I EXPECT  my government
to make my life as happy as possible or they get FIRED   now to be happy you need money most of the time no money life is shit   so that means we need jobs or we do crime   and as we put them in power we don't want crime so they need to create jobs  WHY because that's why we pay them out are taxes   so our children have a future
too..


Now I find that many many think governments are the ENEMY?   you are right but that's because you let them   why you say  WELL you should string the nasty leaders up by their necks  but you have no balls Wink..

Take Mugabe how on earth did you no hang him Undecided  THEN YOU LET HIS BUDDY GET IN Shocked Shocked Cheesy Cheesy  CRAZY PEOPLE ..

AND THAT GIVES ME AN IDEA FOR A NEW TOPIC..BYE ..
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August 15, 2018, 04:06:27 AM
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Countries where social welfare schemes are properly implemented by the governments don’t have high levels of unemployment. In fact when a country has a large number of homeless and unemployed people, it is a clear indication that something is wrong with the way it is governed. But can governments be held completely responsible for loss of jobs and homes? Let’s examine.

Both internal and external factors can have a significant effect on a nation’s economy. A good government should be able to control the internal conflicts that might be causing joblessness. However, no government in the world can effectively control external affairs. For example, a lot of people lost jobs due to the economic crisis in 2008. Although recession was mainly in the US, its effect was felt all over the globe. In fact, the US recession caused job loss in countries like India and China. It affected India’s booming outsourcing industry. And because it was an external factor, the governments in India or China couldn’t do anything to ease its ramifications.

Nonetheless, there are many things that governments can do to reduce the severity of these problems and protect their citizens.
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August 15, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
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Oh, didn't even know that is a thing in Brazil. So, they go abroad just to buy stuff?

It's really a balancing act. At one end you want to keep industries at home to have people employed but at the same time you want those people to be able to make the most out of their income with cheap goods.
It may not always be worth it to go abroad just to buy things, but it is very very common for them to buy thing when they go abroad. The World Economic Forum's Global Competitiveness Report said that Brazil's tariffs on imports is 11.5%. This is very significant if you're buying a big ticket item.

I found another site with countries that have even higher tariffs:
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Bahamas    18.56%
Gabon    16.93%
Chad    16.36%
Bermuda    15.39%
Central African Republic    14.51%
Grenada    12.41%
St. Kitts and Nevis    12.28%
Antigua and Barbuda    11.88%
Nepal    11.66%
Benin    11.57%
This is usually the kind of thing that developing countries do. Some countries even have 0% import tax.
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August 15, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
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You're absolutely right. It is true that unemployment issue should be handled by the government along with hunger and poverty, because that are the main problems every country could possibly have. Government should be able to provide job for their citizens so government could reduce unemployment level in their country. For example, government could provide free school for children from elementary to high school for those who can't afford. With better education, later they could educate others and create job fields to help others. Another example, government could provide bussiness institution for new bussiness comer, etc.

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