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March 24, 2014, 08:45:37 AM
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Currently we have less than a month waiting time. We think this is more than OK.

With Hashfast as your supplier, you should have a hunch "is more than OK" will in hindsight look naive
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March 24, 2014, 09:03:27 AM
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With Hashfast as your supplier, you should have a hunch "is more than OK" will in hindsight look naive

We understand that some people have issues with Hashfast, but as long as we have all the needed components, including the ASICs, we don't see where the issue is.

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March 24, 2014, 09:31:13 AM
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With Hashfast as your supplier, you should have a hunch "is more than OK" will in hindsight look naive

We understand that some people have issues with Hashfast, but as long as we have all the needed components, including the ASICs, we don't see where the issue is.

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This is true. You don't have to sleep with a man to use his ASICs Wink

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March 24, 2014, 09:52:58 AM
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Is this another pre-order company ?  Sad
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March 24, 2014, 10:41:04 AM
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yes pre-order ftw.

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March 24, 2014, 11:25:28 AM
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We understand that some people have issues with Hashfast, but as long as we have all the needed components, including the ASICs, we don't see where the issue is.

So describe the situation, how many ASICs has Hashfast sent you? Just enough to do your development or do you have in hand the hundreds of ASICs you'll be using to complete your boards?

If you don't have the bulk of the ASICs yet, by what date do you expect them to arrive? Do you have to pay them up front?

The quoted text above implies you have all the needed components, including the ASICs right now. Is that correct?
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March 24, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
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So describe the situation, how many ASICs has Hashfast sent you? Just enough to do your development or do you have in hand the hundreds of ASICs you'll be using to complete your boards?

If you don't have the bulk of the ASICs yet, by what date do you expect them to arrive? Do you have to pay them up front?

The quoted text above implies you have all the needed components, including the ASICs right now. Is that correct?

We have enough ASICs for our first Batch production for Black Miner Tower and Black Miner Prime.

Of course we've had to pay for them upfront. The PCBs are manufactured locally and this is the only thing we are waiting for before we deliver all orders.

Here are some pictures for you: http://imgur.com/a/XTqRs

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March 24, 2014, 02:35:06 PM
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I hope you have more than the couple of chips you show there, or at least did not pay for more than you already got. HF are criminals, they sell the same product multiple times.

Probably one or more of the chips you have, where paid by me in September 2013.
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March 24, 2014, 02:55:35 PM
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Probably one or more of the chips you have, where paid by me in September 2013.
Think about customers that (without considering the MPP) have (October 2013 orders) bigger than this "first batch".
No respect can be brought to HF or people reselling it's hardware.
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Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 24, 2014, 03:51:21 PM
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We have enough ASICs for our first Batch production for Black Miner Tower and Black Miner Prime.

Of course we've had to pay for them upfront. The PCBs are manufactured locally and this is the only thing we are waiting for before we deliver all orders.

Here are some pictures for you: http://imgur.com/a/XTqRs

Great, you should have posted a picture earlier to clear up the confusion

So you are sitting on about BTC 400 of hardware that HF should have shipped to me and not resell again to you
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March 24, 2014, 04:42:11 PM
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We have enough ASICs for our first Batch production for Black Miner Tower and Black Miner Prime.

Of course we've had to pay for them upfront. The PCBs are manufactured locally and this is the only thing we are waiting for before we deliver all orders.

Here are some pictures for you: http://imgur.com/a/XTqRs

Great, you should have posted a picture earlier to clear up the confusion

So you are sitting on about BTC 400 of hardware that HF should have shipped to me and not resell again to you
Holy Science! There is no pleasing on this forum... they don't have chips - they must be taking fraudulent pre-orders ... they have the chips - they must have taken another client's profit...
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Holy Science! There is no pleasing on this forum... they don't have chips - they must be taking fraudulent pre-orders ... they have the chips - they took another client's profit...
If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk. (read hashfast.org for starters)
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Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 24, 2014, 05:29:34 PM
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We have enough ASICs for our first Batch production for Black Miner Tower and Black Miner Prime.

Of course we've had to pay for them upfront. The PCBs are manufactured locally and this is the only thing we are waiting for before we deliver all orders.

Here are some pictures for you: http://imgur.com/a/XTqRs

Great, you should have posted a picture earlier to clear up the confusion

So you are sitting on about BTC 400 of hardware that HF should have shipped to me and not resell again to you
Holy Science! There is no pleasing on this forum... they don't have chips - they must be taking fraudulent pre-orders ... they have the chips - they must have taken another client's profit...
The anger should be directed at HF rather than black miner, they are customers just the same as us. Its up to HF to decide in what crooked way they want to deliver things.

Black Elec, can you respond to my PM dated the 14th please?

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March 24, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
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The anger should be directed at HF rather than black miner, they are customers just the same as us. Its up to HF to decide in what crooked way they want to deliver things.

Black Minor is just a guilty as HF, they are helping HF to keep their circus going by supplying them with needed funds. In the mean time the original customers of HF are left in the cold.

And yes, there is no way in pleasing the original HF customers, other than supplying them with either the hardware we ordered (which now seems to be in Romania) or a full refund.
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March 24, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
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Will it ROI ?
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March 24, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
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Black Minor is just a guilty as HF, they are helping HF to keep their circus going by supplying them with needed funds. In the mean time the original customers of HF are left in the cold.

And yes, there is no way in pleasing the original HF customers, other than supplying them with either the hardware we ordered (which now seems to be in Romania) or a full refund.

As BombaUcigasa said, we do think that people are never satisfied. I don't know why we are accused of different things because we are using HashFast ASICs.

This is our last post related to ASICs and Hashfast. Please discuss our products or please ignore this forum thread.

Thank you!

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March 24, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
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With Hashfast as your supplier, you should have a hunch "is more than OK" will in hindsight look naive

We understand that some people have issues with Hashfast, but as long as we have all the needed components, including the ASICs, we don't see where the issue is.

Thanks

The issue is pretty simple.  Hashfast has failed to deliver hardware that has already been paid for by their customers.  If you are taking chips from Hashfast now, you are interfering with the Hashfast customer's right to have their purchases fulfilled.  This means that you will be party to the active lawsuits against hashfast.

Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.

Anyone buying from you is likely to have their gear mired in the disaster as well.
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March 24, 2014, 07:43:33 PM
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How many of you guys that got screwed by Hashfast own Avalon based machines, or have owned one?
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March 24, 2014, 07:46:56 PM
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Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.

You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.

Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).

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March 24, 2014, 08:03:19 PM
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Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.

You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.

Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).

Thanks!

Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
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