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August 13, 2018, 04:17:52 PM
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I'm one of the 'noobs' ok, don't hate me for it.  But I don't have any money in the game yet, either.  I'm considering dumping some in when the time is right, but I'm trying to do my due diligence first.  I'm doing much research and stumbled upon bitcointalk.org, which has provided a vast amount of insight.  So thank you all!

It seems that most people here are overtly pro-bitcoin and pro-the blockchain that is developed underneath it, but I wanted to see the other side to the argument before making a big move, so I stumbled upon this article.  This points out key underlying issues and obstacles the blockchain must overcome to move to where some people expect it to be (a global, decentralized currency) and actually makes a few points suggesting it's not possible.  I want to know what you guys think about it!

https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-issues/18019/

Take a read and let me know what you think.  Thanks!
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August 21, 2018, 08:32:18 AM
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The main problems of crypto currency can be solved by improving the source code base and legalization. Indeed, there are complications with scalability. And they need to be solved in order to attract additional users to the ecosystem. Developers are already engaged in this issue and proposed a number of solutions. In our time, there are no insoluble problems.
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August 21, 2018, 08:38:02 PM
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The main problems of crypto currency can be solved by improving the source code base and legalization. Indeed, there are complications with scalability. And they need to be solved in order to attract additional users to the ecosystem. Developers are already engaged in this issue and proposed a number of solutions. In our time, there are no insoluble problems.

Is legalization a problem of bitcoin? I don't think so. Legalization is a problem for the users not a direct problem of bitcoin. Yes, the scalability of bitcoin is one major problem.

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August 22, 2018, 11:13:50 AM
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I'm one of the 'noobs' ok, don't hate me for it.  But I don't have any money in the game yet, either.  I'm considering dumping some in when the time is right, but I'm trying to do my due diligence first.  I'm doing much research and stumbled upon bitcointalk.org, which has provided a vast amount of insight.  So thank you all!

It seems that most people here are overtly pro-bitcoin and pro-the blockchain that is developed underneath it, but I wanted to see the other side to the argument before making a big move, so I stumbled upon this article.  This points out key underlying issues and obstacles the blockchain must overcome to move to where some people expect it to be (a global, decentralized currency) and actually makes a few points suggesting it's not possible.  I want to know what you guys think about it!

https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-issues/18019/

Take a read and let me know what you think.  Thanks!
Bitcoin can also be misused by people who want to hide their income from the government, and avoid paying taxes. Not only that, bitcoin also has problems with its technology. First, anyone who has access to a Bitcoin password has the authority to spend the Bitcoins it opens. The loss of passwords means losing all Bitcoin.
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August 22, 2018, 03:32:56 PM
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Myth #1: The blockchain is a giant, distributed computer

The redundancy that is critized in this section is actually what allows Bitcoin to be censorship resistant and permissionless. You don't have to trust, you can verify. And for that one requires utmost transparency. Additionally, the more copies there are, the harder it is to take down.

You may know rendundancy from another, perhaps more familiar concept: Making backups.


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Myth #2: The blockchain is everlasting. Everything that is recorded into a blockchain will remain there forever

There's no debunking of the headline "myth"? Just further critique on the redundancy of blockchains. See above.


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Myth #3: The blockchain is effective and scalable. Conventional money will soon disappear

I agree that both claims are a myth, but I still wonder what he means by that:

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it is standard practice to wait 50 minutes more after each new record appears because the records regularly roll back.

I'm not sure which blockchain he's talking about that "regularly rolls back" but it's definitely not Bitcoin. There are orphan blocks, sure, but they are rather rare and usually don't go further than 1-2 blocks deep.

It is also worth noting that while blockchains themselves are very bad at scaling, the technologies being built on top of them are not.


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Myth #4: Miners provide network security

They do though.

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the problem is that miners are protecting Bitcoin from other miners.

In theory yes, in practice no, due to mining incentives (ie. block subsidies and transaction fees) keeping forces in check.

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If only one-thousandth of the current number of miners existed, and thus one-thousandth of the electric power was consumed, then Bitcoin would be just as good as it is now.

In theory yes, in practice no, due to the cost of attacking the network now being a thousand times cheaper.

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Traditional payment systems are immune to such an attack.

Not really though:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-cyber/thieves-suck-millions-out-of-mexican-banks-in-transfer-heist-idUSKCN1IF1X7
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-city-union-bank-swift/indias-city-union-bank-ceo-says-suffered-cyber-hack-via-swift-system-idUSKCN1G20AF


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Myth #5: The blockchain is decentralized, therefore it is indestructible

Centralization is obviously something to keep an eye on, however:

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Gaining access to just four controlling computers would gain someone the ability to double spend bitcoins. This, as you can imagine, would depreciate bitcoins somewhat, and doing it is actually quite feasible.

I doubt it's "just four controlling computers" that someone would need to gain access to. I also doubt it's "actually quite feasible" because that would leave me wondering why double spends aren't happening on a regular basis.

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But the threat is even more serious than the above might imply, because the majority of pools, along with their computing powers, are located inside one country, which makes it much easier to capture them and gain control over Bitcoin.

...eradicating billions of dollars worth of investment in hardware, infrastructure and developing knowledge. Sure thing.


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Myth #6: The anonymous and open character of the blockchain is a good thing

Rather misinformed.

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How much money I have at any given time.

Not possible without knowing all other address that are under the target's control.

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How much I spent and, more important, what I spent it on.

Not possible without knowing all other address that are under the target's control and every counterparty they have been interacting with.

Unless the mother or friend of the author's example happens to have a knack for big data and machine learning I doubt they'll find out all that much about any financial history.

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Some disclosure may be tolerable for individuals, but it is deadly for companies. All of their contracting parties, sales, customers, account amounts, and every other little, petty detail would all become public.

Oh the humanity! Companies being forced to act transparently and therefore potentially being liable for misconduct, embezzlement and tax evasion! Just imagine if one could see how money flows from companies to shell companies to lobbyists to politicians! Oh geez!

smh.

That being said, some of the scaling solutions that are heading for Bitcoin will improve Bitcoin's privacy (or come at the cost of transparency, depending on how you want to look at things); most notably Lightning Network.
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August 22, 2018, 08:21:19 PM
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Just a few points to add as well. The article is released last year.

https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-issues/18019/

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Six myths about blockchain and Bitcoin: Debunking the effectiveness of the technology
August 18, 2017

I consider the Bitcoin technology itself revolutionary. Unfortunately, Bitcoin has been used for criminal activities far too often, and as an information security specialist, I strongly dislike that practice. Yet, technologically speaking, Bitcoin is an obvious breakthrough.

It was already debunked by DEA:

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A DEA special agent, Lilita Infante, has reportedly admitted that illegal activity is no longer bitcoin’s primary use. She is part of the 10-person Cyber Investigative Task Force, a team focusing on dark web and crypto-related investigations. The group collaborates with other units of the Department of Justice including the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

https://news.bitcoin.com/illegal-activity-use-bitcoin-dea-agent/

The article also mentioned about (psuedo) anonymity, well if he doesn't want to go public because of blockchain, then used mixing services. Grin

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August 22, 2018, 11:29:14 PM
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And this topic has been repeated a dozens of times and if not maybe a hundred of time not only here in the bitcoin discussion thread but to other thread as well.

Why would anyone post something an article or news that's have been a year old or so before they realized its too late? and there are more important things to tackle instead of this disadvantage thing....

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August 23, 2018, 06:52:07 AM
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As for an investment then price fluctuation and volatility are one of the disadvantages of Bitcoin that is why this investment is very risky too. As to be use as currency then the delayed transactions and much expensive mining fees are one of the disadvantages in which really need to be address unlike fiat currency that we could use it instantly anytime and anywhere.
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August 23, 2018, 10:44:30 AM
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As for an investment then price fluctuation and volatility are one of the disadvantages of Bitcoin that is why this investment is very risky too. As to be use as currency then the delayed transactions and much expensive mining fees are one of the disadvantages in which really need to be address unlike fiat currency that we could use it instantly anytime and anywhere.

Volatility is what keeps many investors away and those who do not have high risk ability may not be keen in dealing with bitcoin. This is the main reason that people stay away from the bitcoin and also if government is not supportive and does not legalize it than people may not become part of this crypto currency.

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August 23, 2018, 01:09:55 PM
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And this topic has been repeated a dozens of times and if not maybe a hundred of time not only here in the bitcoin discussion thread but to other thread as well.

Why would anyone post something an article or news that's have been a year old or so before they realized its too late? and there are more important things to tackle instead of this disadvantage thing....

I'm speculating that the OP thought that the topic is still relevant after a year and he admitted that he is a "noob", so let's give me the benefit of the doubt. But its all good at least it was debunked by most experienced members of the community and I hope that the OP has somewhat grasp that the article has been tackled and this so called disadvantage was exposed by @HeRetiK.

@Flor1982 - volatility is not a flaw per se and because bitcoin price depends on supply and demand. Its really hard to see it stabilize. And I don't think we are going to see the price stabilizes because you need to understand that we are still in its infancy.

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