Make restrictions for juniors members

[kirreev070]

Get the rank of junior is not so difficult. It may be worth removing the signature for juniors members or make a limited number of posts for juniors per week. After all, most come to the forum for earnings and now a lot of people make multi-accounts. Some users have more than 10 accounts and they participate in signature companies
And so the forum is more flooding and it can be difficult to find the information you need.

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[hilariousandco]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

[cabalism13]

Get the rank of junior is not so difficult. It may be worth removing the signature for juniors members or make a limited number of posts for juniors per week. After all, most come to the forum for earnings and now a lot of people make multi-accounts. Some users have more than 10 accounts and they participate in signature companies
And so the forum is more flooding and it can be difficult to find the information you need.

This won't be happening, as the higher ups have said before, it is the Campaign Managers here whose at fault here in the first place. It is them who should be punished for not having some strict rules to their Campaigns.
Well, if they can manage to be a Jr. MEMBER just by 30 posts, I think they can can also manage to get to the MEMBER rank... 10 Merits is just a small number though...
The best solution there is to remove the JR. MEMBER Rank to all campaigns.

Edited:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

Having a small number of merit for them won't stop them from spamming and making other alts. MINIMUM MERIT REQUIREMENT SHOULD BE ADJUSTED INTO ATLEAST 10 FOR JR MEMBERS AND 20-30 FOR MEMBER RANKS.

[kirreev070]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

I watched the campaign bounty yesterday and today. And I noticed such a fact that about 40-60% profiles belong junior members.
And I went to some junior members profiles and there was in all cases a flood

[athanz88]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

I guess it will be good if the forum can set it to be 5 or 3 merits to be a Junior Member. Every hardworking person can achieve that amount for sure. But i guess the administrators of this forum have other things to do beside this issue.

Meanwhile, there can be 1 groups that can control this issue which is the Managers. I hope they can make some merit requirements for Junior Member or do not hire Junior Member at all.

[finaleshot2016]

These additional merits for Jr. Member is already been suggested many times and I think it's very effective as another barrier.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

I guess it will be good if the forum can set it to be 5 or 3 merits to be a Junior Member. Every hardworking person can achieve that amount for sure. But i guess the administrators of this forum have other things to do beside this issue.

Meanwhile, there can be 1 groups that can control this issue which is the Managers. I hope they can make some merit requirements for Junior Member or do not hire Junior Member at all.

I agree for the additional 5 merits, If you really know what you're posting about and you're a dedicated person, you can earn it easily. But of you're just interested with the profit then you deserve to be stuck. Once you've gain a merits even you're a shitposter, someone is boosting you up to be qualified in campaigns, in short a merit abuser.

Member - 15 merit
Full Member - 110 merit
Senior Member - 270 merit
Hero Member - 520 merit
Legendary Member - 1040 merit

This is also a good way to handle a campaign, bounty managers should  make it like this.

[Taki]

Get the rank of junior is not so difficult. It may be worth removing the signature for juniors members or make a limited number of posts for juniors per week. After all, most come to the forum for earnings and now a lot of people make multi-accounts. Some users have more than 10 accounts and they participate in signature companies
And so the forum is more flooding and it can be difficult to find the information you need.

This won't be happening, as the higher ups have said before, it is the Campaign Managers here whose at fault here in the first place. It is them who should be punished for not having some strict rules to their Campaigns.
Well, if they can manage to be a Jr. MEMBER just by 30 posts, I think they can can also manage to get to the MEMBER rank... 10 Merits is just a small number though...
The best solution there is to remove the JR. MEMBER Rank to all campaigns.

Edited:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

Having a small number of merit for them won't stop them from spamming and making other alts. MINIMUM MERIT REQUIREMENT SHOULD BE ADJUSTED INTO ATLEAST 10 FOR JR MEMBERS AND 20-30 FOR MEMBER RANKS.

Good words. I saw a lot of new signature campaigns and bounties which ruled by newbies or junior members, I even tried to participate in some of them, but in the most of cases such projects got shut down after a week or two or a manager simply didn't work well, I mean spreadsheets not updated in time, the most of participants' questions stayed without reply and so on. So the boarder should be higher definitely.

[The Cryptovator]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

Not agree with one merit, it can be bought or trade from corrupted member's. Remove signature is the best solution as you say. My opinion just leave merit system same as now , just disable signature campaign for up to Jr. Members. If requirement small merit, merit abuse will increase. We should try to prevent merit abuse as well.

[athanz88]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

Not agree with one merit, it can be bought or trade from corrupted member's. Remove signature is the best solution as you say. My opinion just leave merit system same as now , just disable signature campaign for up to Jr. Members. If requirement small merit, merit abuse will increase. We should try to prevent merit abuse as well.

Well you have a point there. Removing signature would make less merit abuse on that rank, but i think the solution where managers make restriction for Junior Member to join any campaign is a great idea too or at least making a minimal merit requirement for Junior Member to join a campaign. Three of them is good anyway. We just need it to be applied as soon as possible.

[HiDevin]

Why not just makes all merit ranks requirements go down one.

For example:


Rank   Required activity      Required merit
Brand new           0               0
Newbie           1               0
Jr Member           30             10
Member           60            100
Full Member    120             250
Sr. Member           240            500
Hero Member   480            1000
Legendary   775-1030            ??

[C0ld_Zero]

Get the rank of junior is not so difficult. It may be worth removing the signature for juniors members or make a limited number of posts for juniors per week. After all, most come to the forum for earnings and now a lot of people make multi-accounts. Some users have more than 10 accounts and they participate in signature companies
And so the forum is more flooding and it can be difficult to find the information you need.

This won't be happening, as the higher ups have said before, it is the Campaign Managers here whose at fault here in the first place. It is them who should be punished for not having some strict rules to their Campaigns.
Well, if they can manage to be a Jr. MEMBER just by 30 posts, I think they can can also manage to get to the MEMBER rank... 10 Merits is just a small number though...
The best solution there is to remove the JR. MEMBER Rank to all campaigns.

Edited:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.msg42027113

Yes, there should be at least a one merit requirement for them, or their signatures are removed completely. Or even both.

Having a small number of merit for them won't stop them from spamming and making other alts. MINIMUM MERIT REQUIREMENT SHOULD BE ADJUSTED INTO ATLEAST 10 FOR JR MEMBERS AND 20-30 FOR MEMBER RANKS.

I think remove rank Jr.member is not stop farming, We should remove both Jr.Member and Member. Atleast Sr.member above to join campaign. And Bounty Pool for signature campaign should be down. The system, moderate, people should report the comments with low quality or plagiarism
I know some people in group are selling Jr.member rank and Member rank for cheap. They are farming alot of account.

[SuiMikira]

1 merit is too easy. Best option regarding my opinion is adjust the merit system as following:
Rank   Required   activity              Required merit
Brand new     0                                 0
Newbie           1                                 0
Jr Member           30                                 10
Member           60                                 50
Full Member   120                                 100
Sr. Member   240                                 250
Hero Member   480                                 500

[groko271]

i think the merit system has fixed this issue imo (maybe too well). The way I see it, it is hard enough as it is to rank up for the lower members without making it any harder.

[tranthidung]

1 merit is too easy. Best option regarding my opinion is adjust the merit system as following:
Rank   Required   activity              Required merit
Brand new     0                                 0
Newbie           1                                 0
Jr Member           30                                 10
Member           60                                 50
Full Member   120                                 100
Sr. Member   240                                 250
Hero Member   480                                 500

I agree with you and the proposal.
10 and 50 merits for Junior member, and Member ranks, respectively.
And, start allowing Junior member can have actively hyperlink in their signature again is one of good alternative adjustments for the current ranking system.

[Docnaster]

I personally think that bounty managers should just implement a merit requirement into their campaigns, requiring Jr members to have at least 1-2 merit to participate. Realistically Theymos isn't likely to restrict Jr. members further otherwise he would have done it already, so the bounty managers need to be the ones to curb this crap.

[darklus123]

This won't be happening, as the higher ups have said before, it is the Campaign Managers here whose at fault here in the first place. It is them who should be punished for not having some strict rules to their Campaigns.
Well, if they can manage to be a Jr. MEMBER just by 30 posts, I think they can can also manage to get to the MEMBER rank... 10 Merits is just a small number though...
The best solution there is to remove the JR. MEMBER Rank to all campaigns.

I personally don't know if this can be a reason but you know why some of the campaigns accept jr.members even if we already know that most of this accounts are just spamming? Simply because it is a great strategy since they are gonna be paying less for this type of users while it can spread more of their product.

So just removing the signature i guess for this ranks are just still the best solution so other campaign will basically doesn't have a choice

[hilariousetc]

I personally think that bounty managers should just implement a merit requirement into their campaigns, requiring Jr members to have at least 1-2 merit to participate. Realistically Theymos isn't likely to restrict Jr. members further otherwise he would have done it already, so the bounty managers need to be the ones to curb this crap.

You trouble is is that you can't get them to do this because most don't care about quality and spammers so that's why we need to force them to make changes. Removing signatures from Juniors is the only way to stop them from accepting them, or making a merit requirement to become a Junior. These simple things alone would clean the forum up drastically because it's becoming full of Junior-level spammers churning out on liners and they just create more and more accounts when they realise they're never going to move past Junior. Their hand needs to be forced here. I would be all for removing signatures up until Member level and that would mean you're never going to be able to earn until you've received ten merits and been here a couple of months which isn't unreasonable or a lot to ask.

[The Cryptovator]

but i think the solution where managers make restriction for Junior Member to join any campaign is a great idea too or at least making a minimal merit requirement for Junior Member to join a campaign.

I personally think that bounty managers should just implement a merit requirement into their campaigns, requiring Jr members to have at least 1-2 merit to participate. Realistically Theymos isn't likely to restrict Jr. members further otherwise he would have done it already, so the bounty managers need to be the ones to curb this crap.

Few managers are not accepting Jr. Members. It's not possible to force all managers. If requirement small merit, do you think people can't buy small merit ? Because many corrupted member's here. Also out side of forum people's trading merit. We should think both , prevent merit abuse & spam. So better option disable signeture campaign.

[Silent26]

I personally think that bounty managers should just implement a merit requirement into their campaigns, requiring Jr members to have at least 1-2 merit to participate. Realistically Theymos isn't likely to restrict Jr. members further otherwise he would have done it already, so the bounty managers need to be the ones to curb this crap.

In addition to hilariousetc's reply, bounty managers are pretty wise as well, they know that they will only get few participants if they put at least 2 merit requirements and I don't think that bounty managers with agree with that. As we can see, they actually doesn't care about the posts quality of their participants because what important for them is their project is getting advertised the way they like.
So, even though theymos doesn't want to restrict Jr. Members, we still need to force to implement the "atleast 5 merits requirements to rank up to Jr. Member and also remove signature from Jr. Members" for the sake of Bitcointalk, or else things will get worse.

We're running out of options.

[Welsh]

We're running out of options.

Restrictions are likely the best option in the case of bounty campaigns, and the current spam problem that these things encourage. However, introducing a fair merit requirement might be more difficult that rounding it up to nice numbers such as 5. To be honest 1 merit point would likely reduce the amount of users spamming by a significant amount.