Man generates his own electricity, still pays electricity taxes

[gambitcoin53]

if this is true, it is clearly a robbery on the part of the government, this is absurd, why would the man be taxed? anyway, maybe this is just an isolated incident, putting up a solar panel is very expensive, but imagine the savings on the part of the owner, it  is very economical and environmental, maybe the installation and all that is why he was taxed.

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[permatasai]

taxation on assets or business fields is mostly done in all countries and that is a necessity because for me tax income will be used to carry out development such as routine state spending, payment of state debt and other problems

[Ssid]

That man is amazing. I really support the idea.
In the future when I mine a lot and use a lot of electricity, I will do that too. Right now I'm thinking about trying one panel first.
Hey its for our earth. We should all do it.

[Siren]

I Really don't know whats happening to the world because people seems to be abused by authorities and denied for our freedom on what we can and what we have.where in the world that you must be paying for your own povided electricity isn't it unfair?i hope this must be addressed nd will be given justice as this is not humanitarian actions

[BCSHonda]

It could be a tax supposed to be charged to compensate the pollution or the development of green energy. Like the companies do. No matter if you generate your own electricity I think it's fair to participate. It's not like if the man was forced to pay a VAT.

Naturally, it still has to collect money because of many factors. Characteristics of environmental damage, affecting human health. And the natural conditions, nature also have some influence. Tax collection is also partially appropriate for living conditions.

[KS03]

I have solar and have an electric bill even though I make more than I use.  They charge you for the transmission across their wires.  For me it's .008 of a cent per Killowatt. 

[FinalFury]

What his doing is beautiful, I would love to one day create my own electricity. What really annoys me is not so much the taxes, since at least it should still be less than the average person, but what really annoys me is that he has to have a meter to measure his electricity consumption. It's Canada, so I hope the US also doesn't tax people for generating their own electricity.

[audaciousbeing]

This is a news story about a man who installed 35 solar panels on his home.

http://www.anonews.co/man-still-has-to-pay-tax-for-energy-he-generates-himself/

This man pays electricity taxes on every watt of energy his house consumes, even though he is self sufficient & produces more energy than he consumes from the power grid.

Should he pay taxes for a service rendered by the state which he does not utilize?

Crypto taxes are a hot topic in this section. This news story could in the future apply to crypto mining. Imagine if someone bought enough solar panels to power their bitcoin mining operation. And the state charged them for every kilowatt hour of energy their bitcoin miners consume, even though their operation is fully powered independently outside of state generated or regulated electrical grids.

This news story reminds me of this case where uganda tried to tax its citizens for using social media websites like twitter and facebook:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4614685.0

What are peoples thoughts on this?

For every electricity bill, it's made up of two components which is the electricity bill itself, and the tax element. Depending on the tax law of the country, most times the value of the electricity taxes is dependent on the electricity bill as a huge user of megawatts is expected to pay more tax than a household user but in the case of this man whose electricity bill is Zero then the tax to be charged is zero. On the other hand, if the tax law over there would levy tax irrespective of the amount of megawatts you used, then its only the portion of tax he would be liable to pay.

The point is, for someone to be intelligent enough to generate his own electricity, then he should not be lazy to read the tax law and maybe require the service of an expert for adequate interpretation as government agencies sometimes in their quest to generate revenue apply the law in a blanket manner without considering the exceptions embedded in such law.

[anti76]

It's really unfair.Why should people pay for this?Can still will need to pay for air?In the near future, electricity will be generated by solar batteries. This fact. And I wonder what the tax service will do then

[Alone055]

So only because he is still connected to the power grid he has to pay taxes even if he is not using any of the power provided by the grid but in fact he is giving back more power to the grid. This is totally absurd!
It is just like a hotel where you stay, but you eat food from the outside. And, you still have to pay for the food that is served to everyone else three times a day.

[paynercash]

I Really don't know whats happening to the world because people seems to be abused by authorities and denied for our freedom on what we can and what we have.where in the world that you must be paying for your own povided electricity isn't it unfair?i hope this must be addressed nd will be given justice as this is not humanitarian actions

It is not clear what the intentions of this administration are. And I hope the community does not have sad stories in this case. Every change has purpose and intention. The thing to do is that we should be really awake in all cases so as not to have difficulties.

[stompix]

So only because he is still connected to the power grid he has to pay taxes even if he is not using any of the power provided by the grid but in fact he is giving back more power to the grid. This is totally absurd!
It is just like a hotel where you stay, but you eat food from the outside. And, you still have to pay for the food that is served to everyone else three times a day.

No it's not like that.

It's like booking an all-inclusive stay, where the hotel must be sure he has all the food to serve you fresh each day, you go out and eat in the city and by the end of the day you come with the bills and ask the hotel to pay for it. All this while demanding they keep your soup hot and fresh 24/h

This is exactly what all those individuals do, they produce energy when they can, the power company has to buy it no matter what but when push comes to shove the exact company who has reduced its power generation capabilities must somehow out of pixie dust produce more to feed them also.

Since we're at examples time let's do it like this, my family owns 3 butchers shops so all the vegans ...go away

You own a butcher shop and every day the farmer comes and drops two pig carcasses and the deal is that you make the settlement in money at the end of the month.
All it's good, the bio-eco-green meat is appreciated by your customers, but in the middle of the night on the 24th of December, you hear a bang at the door. It's the farmer:
"Sorry to bother you, but my pigs escaped and I can't find them. I've sold you 50 carcasses, can I have them back?"

Now, all of you how would you react? Cause I'm pretty sure 90% of you would kick his ass and the rest 10% would throw a hatchet after him 

But ...
It has always been like this here...
Say government, taxes, corporation and the army of pitchforks is summoned to fight with the evil Sauron...

[Betwrong]

I have solar and have an electric bill even though I make more than I use.  They charge you for the transmission across their wires.  For me it's .008 of a cent per Killowatt.  

First of, .008 of a cent per kWh is a very small amount, so I wouldn't worry about it. But what is interesting to me is how can they charge you for "the transmission across their wires". Do you have your solar situated afar from your home? From what I know they are normally placed on the roof and you don't have to use any other wires apart your own ones. What am I missing here?

[tepakpak]

The government is greedy because after all we do not use electricity from the government, the government must be fair to this. Regardless of the situation and the rules, I think the man doesn't have to pay electricity taxes.

[cryptokingdom]

There is no government agent that have the power to tax me on the services I provide for myself.  The electricity power supply by government in my country is very poor  so majority of company and individual  Provide power by themselves so government doesn't tax us.

[buy-it]

To me, paying for Government power source supplied while not used and at the same time utilizing your own generated solar energy is like what I can termed to be Double Taxation which is at the User's Detriment. Why can't he totally disconnect The Power supplied by Government and write them to have opted out of the usage? By this, extensive cost implication could be cubed.

[Pearls Before Swine]

Though I don't agree with it I know why he's paying taxes on his electricity.  This is very much like mining bitcoin.  You're producing something of value and you have to pay taxes on that.  It does seem far fetched to treat self generated electricity as an asset, but that's the government for you.  They want a piece of everything, sometimes multiple pieces over time. 

This is the norm in the US.  Not sure if other countries tax laws are similar. 

[newinbtc]

This is a news story about a man who installed 35 solar panels on his home.

http://www.anonews.co/man-still-has-to-pay-tax-for-energy-he-generates-himself/

This man pays electricity taxes on every watt of energy his house consumes, even though he is self sufficient & produces more energy than he consumes from the power grid.

Should he pay taxes for a service rendered by the state which he does not utilize?

Crypto taxes are a hot topic in this section. This news story could in the future apply to crypto mining. Imagine if someone bought enough solar panels to power their bitcoin mining operation. And the state charged them for every kilowatt hour of energy their bitcoin miners consume, even though their operation is fully powered independently outside of state generated or regulated electrical grids.

This news story reminds me of this case where uganda tried to tax its citizens for using social media websites like twitter and facebook:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4614685.0

What are peoples thoughts on this?

oh man , greedy government. in which contry You talking about..
Now i am afraid To suggest someone For solar panel on grid system... If i Tell rules of my contry i will dissuss now.
We use Ongrid electricity System in homes. We do not pay any tax if we generate own electric , only on what we consume + if we generate more power It back To Grid and we earn money What we sell.

[jayhawk1]

if this is true, it is clearly a robbery on the part of the government, this is absurd, why would the man be taxed? anyway, maybe this is just an isolated incident, putting up a solar panel is very expensive, but imagine the savings on the part of the owner, it  is very economical and environmental, maybe the installation and all that is why he was taxed.

Well I am amazed with this thing, how can a person in single capacity is manufacturing his own electricity. How is that possible? There is no option for any person in any country to manufacture electricity and government is unaware of it. But yes, many people have installed solar panels on their roofs and running their homes on it but still they must pay tax as they are living in that country.

[Rahar02]

This man pays electricity taxes on every watt of energy his house consumes, even though he is self sufficient & produces more energy than he consumes from the power grid.

So he is self-sufficient but...he produces more than he consumes from the grid.
So, unless he consumes 0 from the gird he is NOT self-sufficient.

If he is not happy with that and he says he is independent why hasn't he disconnected himself from the grid?
Simply because the devil is in the details.

For April, Currie's bill shows he paid $13.49 HST on the 644 kilowatt hours of electricity he used — a third of the electricity his home produced over that period.

This indeed would be a viable model for ever country...
When the sun is up we all produce green energy and get credits and at night we get back free energy from....
Not my problem, I put panels up!!!  /s

He needs to check the details of the law as his home still connect to the grid, which probably the main idea of the tax as the article mentioned ;
Smart meters are a bad idea for people who want the freedom to produce their own electricity without being taxed for it
Currie may have to buy some batteries to store any excess of the electricity in order to power up his home at night rather than draw electricity back out of the grid.