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There are a lot of problems we, as individual and as a society, faces everyday. Whether it be physically, mentally, environmentally, pyschologically or morally it seems that these problems are inevitable.
The role of the government is to stabilize and provide the basic needs of a citizen including the order and organization among individuals. While the religion is to ensure that faith and morale of the citizens are still in equilibrium with whatever aspect.
In terms of the political issues that arises between the government and the opposition, should the sector of religion interfere with whatever the citizens and the government must decide?
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August 15, 2018, 02:07:27 PM |
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There are a lot of problems we, as individual and as a society, faces everyday. Whether it be physically, mentally, environmentally, pyschologically or morally it seems that these problems are inevitable.
The role of the government is to stabilize and provide the basic needs of a citizen including the order and organization among individuals. While the religion is to ensure that faith and morale of the citizens are still in equilibrium with whatever aspect.
In terms of the political issues that arises between the government and the opposition, should the sector of religion interfere with whatever the citizens and the government must decide?
In theory, if a population is comprised entirely of people from one religion, it could be okay for religion to play a big role in politics. I say "in theory" because that it's pretty much impossible without forcing people to be of one religion. Thus, it's better to keep religion and state separate. Governments can consult with religious leaders and try to make sure their followers have the rights and freedoms they deserve, but they shouldn't be making decisions themselves for a whole country.
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There are a lot of problems we, as individual and as a society, faces everyday. Whether it be physically, mentally, environmentally, pyschologically or morally it seems that these problems are inevitable.
The role of the government is to stabilize and provide the basic needs of a citizen including the order and organization among individuals. While the religion is to ensure that faith and morale of the citizens are still in equilibrium with whatever aspect.
In terms of the political issues that arises between the government and the opposition, should the sector of religion interfere with whatever the citizens and the government must decide?
I think there are reasons why it shouldn’t. There are many religions, and only one state. If all those sect/denomination would interfere with the political issues it would be chaotic. Both religion and politics have one common goal: that is to acquire political power and use it to fulfill their aims. However, to achieve this object, their methods are different. Religion mobilizes religious sensibilities of people in order to get their support to capture power; while politics uses intrigue, diplomacy, and makes attempt to win public opinion either democratically, if the system allows it, or usurps power with the help of army, if the society is under-developed and backward.
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I believe that religion and political is just the same with church and state set up which should be treated independent and should not interfere each other. Although there are really cases that religion would somehow affects the political issue like for example in creating laws which should be in the morality standards of all religions. The thing is separation of church of state is just right as these can only affect each other rather than to really interfere those political issues.
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Why the Pledge of Allegiance Is Un-American![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F522-0815150813-a.png&t=665&c=VLd5g3ZzaV_gjA) An Atlanta, Georgia, charter school announced last week its intention to discontinue the practice of having students stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance during its schoolwide morning meetings at the beginning of each school day, opting to allow students to recite the pledge in their classrooms instead. Predictably, conservatives were immediately triggered by this "anti-American" decision, prompting the school to reverse its decision shortly after.
Let's face it, standing and pledging allegiance to anything is a little creepy.
The uproar over periodic resistance to reciting the pledge typically originates with Constitution-waving, Tea Party conservatives. Ironically, the pledge itself is not only un-American but antithetical to the most important principle underpinning the Constitution as originally ratified. Read more at https://fee.org/articles/why-the-pledge-of-allegiance-is-un-american/.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 16, 2018, 06:11:30 PM |
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When religion and politics share the same bed, there can only be trouble. These two tools are really powerful. Even individually, if mismanaged they can cause a lot of havoc. Religion normally is created to nurture the soul of a man. Politics however seeks to oversee his outer interactions. If the same entity wields the power over a man's inner and outer interactions, this is really dangerous. This is why I would always be in support of the separation of politics and religion. I believe this is the only way forward.
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August 16, 2018, 06:21:12 PM |
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Go to a church or mosque sometime. Notice the way that people "cheer" for their particular religion there. Go to a rock concert, or Burning Man, or something like Woodstock. Notice how people cheer and celebrate something wonderful, way stronger than we ever see religious people celebrating their religion in a church. Go to big political rallies, and watch people become so extremely emotionally involved that they even start physically fighting against people of the opposite political platform. Churches can show emotion for a particular religion. Similar but stronger emotion is shown at musical concerts. The strongest emotion is shown at political rallies. Separate religion and politics? LOL! Politics and the State is the BIGGEST religion of all (except for money, maybe). ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 17, 2018, 01:16:26 PM |
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This religious and political relationship is always interesting to discuss. Academics, religionists, politicians, activists, even bureaucrats are equally passionate about discussing religion and politics. There are enough academic works that discuss the phenomenon of religious and political relations.
Jonathan Fox, for example, a professor of political science at Bar-Ilan University, Israel, has written many academic works on complex and complex relationships between religion (various religions in the world) and politics (various systems and political activities).
The government that supports and limits the space for religion is equally great.
On the one hand, many governments "lock in" the central role of religion in the public, while on the other hand there are also many religions that influence and dictate the political world.
Political neutrality towards religion is increasingly becoming a rare item. At the same time, religion also becomes an increasingly important entity in politics.
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August 17, 2018, 01:55:42 PM |
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The truth that when we mention religion, we are referring to something supreme and regardless of the denomination of sect, we hypocritically force it on ourselves that we are serving the same kind of God or god for others. And if we say we serve a God or god that should not be involved in our decision for the masses, it means our belief is in vain. After all politics are not man-made but rather God-made and if not for Him, nothing can be achieved. For us that are Christians we are commanded to pray for our leaders because they are ordained by God. We can interfere spiritually by asking God to step in, in the case of crisis so that we who are His children will not become victims of political miscalculations.
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August 17, 2018, 02:17:58 PM |
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On the Democracy people worship nowadays there is place for religion in politics, if people wish for it. So the Democracy's enthusiasts don't have any reason to complain about religious interferences. Many people vote on their representants based on their religion and consequently these represents compose "bench shalls" to defend the interests of those who elected them!
If a country's majority belongs to a specific religion it's normal this matter will interfere on politics.
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August 18, 2018, 09:25:40 AM |
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Religion should be abolished, only mentally weak people believe in non sense.
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DeimunHailstrom (OP)
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August 24, 2018, 01:53:59 PM |
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There are a lot of problems we, as individual and as a society, faces everyday. Whether it be physically, mentally, environmentally, pyschologically or morally it seems that these problems are inevitable.
The role of the government is to stabilize and provide the basic needs of a citizen including the order and organization among individuals. While the religion is to ensure that faith and morale of the citizens are still in equilibrium with whatever aspect.
In terms of the political issues that arises between the government and the opposition, should the sector of religion interfere with whatever the citizens and the government must decide?
In theory, if a population is comprised entirely of people from one religion, it could be okay for religion to play a big role in politics. I say "in theory" because that it's pretty much impossible without forcing people to be of one religion. Thus, it's better to keep religion and state separate. Governments can consult with religious leaders and try to make sure their followers have the rights and freedoms they deserve, but they shouldn't be making decisions themselves for a whole country. I understand your proposition, but based on what I see in my country and what the news has been implicitly telling, it seems that the church has hindered so much advancement that the state could've done because of their so-called moral issues and so on. But, thank you for your wonderful opinion! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 24, 2018, 02:25:27 PM |
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Church must be separated from the state. Period. Otherwise, it's a dangerous game. Religion (i.e. belief as opposed to knowledge) begets only chaos.
Those days where the churches are also ruling the government were done. I really can't find a good way that they must interact with what the government is doing, they can give guidance but they can't fully take over of its political issues.
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If the question is whether or not this should happen (because as everyone knows, there are countries in which religion decides for citizens), my opinion is: this should not happen. For me, an ideal state must be secular, but communities that generate civil disorder by decisions made on the basis of religion must be controlled for the sake of the security of the population.
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August 25, 2018, 04:08:11 PM |
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I would create a system in which I do not know ahead of time whether I will be rich or poor, white or black, Christian or Muslim, etc If I do not know where I will be born, or what religion my parents will teach me, I would not want religion to interfere with politics ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fh5Jp2U5lWK4%2Fhqdefault.jpg&t=665&c=alUEl1Z9gyctmg)
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August 25, 2018, 04:23:43 PM |
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Religion should be abolished, only mentally weak people believe in non sense.
I agree. But start with the biggest religion... the religion of State. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 25, 2018, 04:27:19 PM |
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I would create a system in which I do not know ahead of time whether I will be rich or poor, white or black, Christian or Muslim, etc If I do not know where I will be born, or what religion my parents will teach me, I would not want religion to interfere with politics ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fh5Jp2U5lWK4%2Fhqdefault.jpg&t=665&c=alUEl1Z9gyctmg) Explain the difference ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftherecordist.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2FUltimate-Bullet-HD-Pro_03.jpg&t=665&c=gdvr6VLXIyjugg) ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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September 01, 2018, 08:17:51 PM |
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politics and religion are interwoven into the web of society such that they are mutually reinforcing to ensure balance in society. politicians of our societies are religious people and have been raised by this same religious society within which these politicians reside and so decisions concerning the society are influenced to a certain degree y the religion.
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Politics itself start from religion. Talking about such an issue, critically the system of government need to be considered and the way of life of the people (i.e. what they believe) which politics is an ambient of it. One cannot automatically rule out the fact that some country decision is based on their believe which makes it impossible to be absolutely ruled out. Religion plays vital roles in politics because politics is a game relatively that required divinity.
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I believe that the state and the church, or the politics and religion should be working together as a mutually-independent body of institution that balance the well-being of the country and its people. Thus, there should be a well-defined separation of the church and the state. I do not think that religion must interfere with political issues as much as I don't think that religion can help the government with its polutical issues. However, despite all of the things I have addressed, I still do believe that there should be no separation of God and the state. Every religion is entitled to express their opinion about a political issue but there power should not go beyond that. The religion, if they strongly want to say something, there should always be a limit. Thus, balance and harmony will prevail.
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