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February 27, 2014, 10:37:25 AM
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I happen to be a new bitcoiner and I feel that I am late to this new concept?  The prices seem high and the early adopters sure have the better end of the stick?
How many people use bitcoin and how will they increase/decrease?

Has bitcoin reached highest prices or will it soon go to da moooooooooooon!
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February 27, 2014, 10:39:28 AM
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I happen to be a new bitcoiner and I feel that I am late to this new concept?  The prices seem high and the early adopters sure have the better end of the stick?
How many people use bitcoin and how will they increase/decrease?

Has bitcoin reached highest prices or will it soon go to da moooooooooooon!

You aren't late! Welcome aboard.

But be careful, learn about Bitcoin before buying some. Do not trust by default. Realize that only you can secure your Bitcoins, or people you have legitimate reasons to trust more than yourself.

If everyone had applied that simple rule, the MtGox debacle would have been quite an insignificant event, and couldn't even have happened in the first place. If all customers withdraw all their coins from exchanges all the time, things like this just can't happen (i.e. a systematic, daily "bank run" on the exchanges I use, until I have reasonable reasons to trust them, which I don't)

That said, if you are only interested in Bitcoin as a get-rich-quick scheme in the following 3 months or so, you'll be better off going to a casino.

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February 27, 2014, 10:45:12 AM
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Everyone who learns about bitcoin feels they were late to the party, whether that was 2011, spring 2013 or now.  The crazy thing is that before you even know it, suddenly you're an earlier adopter. 

There are many chapters left in this story. 

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February 27, 2014, 10:46:31 AM
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I think it's too late if you bought at $1000+, if you get to buy at $200-$300 range you will be able to profit some. But the days of 10,000x returns are over.

Bitcoin mining is also collapsing, governments are continuously banning bitcoin reducing accessibility to the masses, a fact people tend to ignore and pretend it doesn't exist.


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February 27, 2014, 10:54:55 AM
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200EMA is always a good place to buy. Except that one time in 2011...
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February 27, 2014, 11:57:33 AM
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this is still very early stage.

bitcoin has now reached the market cap of rovio.

rovio ? oh yeah, the are the makers of "angry birds"

so, read/learn about bitcoin and make up your mind if this technology is worth more than a mobile game app.

here are some nice articles to start with:



http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/why-bitcoin-matters/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/february/bitcoin-athey-srinivasan-021814.html

https://medium.com/future-of-currency/73b4257ac833



we are far away from mainstream. you are early in the game. be aware that you have to get familiar with "cold storage" if you want to put some money into bitcoin.
the bitcoin infrastructure isn´t ready for mainstream use, so don´t rely on others, keep your coins under your control in cold storage.

in my opinion between 500 and 600 is a good price to get in. only invest money you can afford to completly lose.
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February 27, 2014, 12:01:08 PM
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Yeah these are hhopefully still VERY VERY early stages! Smiley
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February 27, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
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Bitcoin is an infant.. Its a currency and much more! %90 people don't realize the potential. %9 see it as a means of financial gain. And %1 know its the best thing that has happened to humanity (technologically) since the internet.

Fun fact: The top 500 supercomputers in the world are a total of 250 petaFLOPS. The bitcoin network is 342153.22 petaFLOPS and growing, thats 1369 times faster than the worlds top 500 supercomputers. This is what kind of infrastructure the network is built on.
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February 27, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
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Cheap coins ahead.  Lots of accusations of Ponzi schemes to come.
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February 27, 2014, 01:07:35 PM
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200EMA is always a good place to buy. Except that one time in 2011...

That remark, as innocent as it sounds, is probably *the* most central problem we have when doing TA: we simply don't have much data yet.

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you (about the daily EMA200, or if you're conservative, EMA300 which we hit 2 days ago), but a nagging voice in my head always tells me when I base some TA on this argument I make in my head (implicitly):

"Situation now resembles this and that aspect of the bubble/pop cycle 2012 and the bubble/pop cycle 2013 (but not the bubble/pop cycle of 2011, but I ignore that one because times were different then)".

I hope you can see my point. If you go by some semi-objective volatility measure (like BBW), we had 3 big cycles (2011, 2013, 2013/14), and a smaller one in 2012. Of those, at most 4 cycles, 1 was different, but me (and many others doing TA) tend to think of the 2011 cycle as an outlier, that can mostly be ignored.

I do the same, let me say that once more.

But, as I said above, a nagging voice in my head tells me to be careful doing so, "ignore 2011 at your own risk".

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February 27, 2014, 01:28:44 PM
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...Bitcoin mining is also collapsing...

As shown by this graph of the collapsing network hash rate:

http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate

Oh wait ....

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February 27, 2014, 07:37:01 PM
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Sorry, you're too late. We're all packing up and heading out, but feel free to stick around for awhile if you'd like. There should be some drinks in the fridge, just be sure to turn off the lights when you're done. Thanks.

Night gathers, and now my bitcoinwisdom watch begins.
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February 27, 2014, 08:32:15 PM
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It's not too late. If you can work up $6k with which to buy 10 BTC, you should be able to retire quite comfortably in three years.
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February 27, 2014, 08:50:42 PM
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It's not too late. If you can work up $6k with which to buy 10 BTC, you should be able to retire quite comfortably in three years.

It is nonsense like this that gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
Expect your invested funds to be worth nothing or at best the same as they are now.
That way there is at least a chance you will be satisfied when and if your investment does increase in value

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February 27, 2014, 08:53:42 PM
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lol - I thought I was late at $10.00 each.  Cheesy   Welcome to the party.  Yeah, it's a party.  If you can't have fun doing it, why bother.  Wink

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February 27, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
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It's not too late. If you can work up $6k with which to buy 10 BTC, you should be able to retire quite comfortably in three years.

It is nonsense like this that gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
Expect your invested funds to be worth nothing or at best the same as they are now.
That way there is at least a chance you will be satisfied when and if your investment does increase in value



I agree. It's a risky investment and, as such, one should only put in money he or she can afford to lose. Even $6k is ok if you can comfortably live without that amount of money. I'm currently at 2 BTC and happy with it.

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February 27, 2014, 08:58:19 PM
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Too late. Only down from here.
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February 27, 2014, 08:58:29 PM
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Do you walk into the Chicago Mercantile Exchange or the New York stock exchange and ask this crap?

This is a financial asset. It is not a party, and it never was a party. If you want to party, put on a bowtie,  pick up a hooker, and go to PF Chang's. In the meantime, get out of my face with this total garbage!

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Bullshit, this is a freaking party. Whenever that price crashes to hell I get some beer and watch it like it's the superbowl with my team playing or a realy good mma fight. The difference is you can make a shitload of money if you buy in right.
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February 27, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
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When I first got involved bitcoin was around $5 and I invested only a tiny little amount because I thought I already missed the easy money.

Still kicking myself.

You are looking at a growing monetary system that is valued less than $10B currently against may tens of trillions of dollars globally. The major easy money has been made, only invest what you can 100% lose, but don't think there is not growth left.
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February 27, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
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It's not too late. If you can work up $6k with which to buy 10 BTC, you should be able to retire quite comfortably in three years.

It is nonsense like this that gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
Expect your invested funds to be worth nothing or at best the same as they are now.
That way there is at least a chance you will be satisfied when and if your investment does increase in value



I agree. It's a risky investment and, as such, one should only put in BTC money he or she can afford to lose. Even $6k is ok if you can comfortably live without that amount of money. I'm currently at 2 BTC and happy with it.

don't forget the other bitcoin phrase repeated ad infinitum: bitcoin outcome is binary. it will either go to zero or millions!

so he should go for it, don't be a pussy and talk yourself out of it. everyone who has done that so far regretted it.

Night gathers, and now my bitcoinwisdom watch begins.
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