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October 19, 2011, 07:33:15 PM
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http://thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2011/10/19/diaspora-paypal-blocked-our-account-and-is-preventing-donations/

PayPal is blocking donations to open source Facebook alternative Diaspora, according to a blog post from the organisation.

The online payment giant has reportedly frozen Diaspora’s account although the company can still receive donations from Flattr and is working on opening alternatives channels.


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October 19, 2011, 07:41:00 PM
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Wow, Paypal is stupid.  I need to read the article now, but based on headline alone, this just screams to Diaspora users to get on an alternate currency system.  Which I figured most would be on top of anyways.

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October 19, 2011, 07:42:45 PM
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One of the many wonderful advantages of a distributed payment system. Every time something like that happens, the fundamental value of Bitcoin rises.
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October 19, 2011, 07:48:30 PM
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agreed,  the problem is someone ask them why they don't take bitcoins, they'll say it's too complicated.....  that's my guess.


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October 19, 2011, 07:49:29 PM
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Time is on our side... This world is going to hell...

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October 19, 2011, 07:58:29 PM
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Update: http://blog.diasporafoundation.org/2011/10/19/how-diaspora-found-its-tiger-stripe-in-the-midst-of-a-paypal-fiasco.html

After a cursory glance at Stripe's front page, I don't see much to differentiate them from Paypal.

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October 19, 2011, 07:59:39 PM
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they face hosting costs, which is something that can be paid in bitcoins...

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October 19, 2011, 08:05:27 PM
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agreed,  the problem is someone ask them why they don't take bitcoins, they'll say it's too complicated.....  that's my guess.



I looked at their site and cannot find any way to contact them at all. 

We'd be happy to set them up to accept donations and we'd send the US Dollars into their account the next day.  if anyone has any contacts there, we can reach out to them.

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October 19, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
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agreed,  the problem is someone ask them why they don't take bitcoins, they'll say it's too complicated.....  that's my guess.



I looked at their site and cannot find any way to contact them at all. 

We'd be happy to set them up to accept donations and we'd send the US Dollars into their account the next day.  if anyone has any contacts there, we can reach out to them.

I sent an email with a link to your post and offer.

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October 19, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
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I have 2 developer contact e-mails, but sent the following to  questions _at_ joindiaspora_com:
Quote from: James Phillips

Hello,

People over on the bitcointalk forum heard that PayPal has cut you off.
Bitcoin is ideal for raising funds for a P2P social networking project.

One of the poster in the thread[1], "Bit-pay Merchant Solutions" has
offered his services for accepting bitcoin donations, then converting to
USD within a day. As far as I know, bit-pay still only operates in the
US.

Bitcoin[2] is a P2P currency backed by proof-of-word and a psuedonymous
public transaction record. It is still experimental and probably will be
for at least another 2 years.

Regards,

James Phillips

[1] Article on why bitcoins need to succeed
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49048.0

[2] Bitcoin P2P Digital Currency
http://bitcoin.org


Edit: should have proof-read e-mail here before sending it.

Errata:
  • "poster" -> "posters"
  • "proof-of-word" -> "proof-of-work"

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October 19, 2011, 08:49:12 PM
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I have 2 developer contact e-mails, but sent the following to  questions _at_ joindiaspora_com:

Great, thanks!

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October 19, 2011, 09:18:45 PM
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After a cursory glance at Stripe's front page, I don't see much to differentiate them from Paypal.

From their TOS:
Quote from: Stripe TOS section 5
By registering for a Stripe Service Account, you are confirming that you will not accept payments in connection with the following businesses, business activities or business practices: ... (45) virtual currency that can be monetized, re-sold or converted to physical or digital goods or services or otherwise exit the virtual world.

I am assuming that they mean you can't use Stripe to accept payments for those purposes, but you know what they say about assumptions... "they make an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'me'".

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October 20, 2011, 09:16:12 AM
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team@joindiaspora.com

please check the adress!


i dont remmeber it exactly now!

I already sent them a few emails in the past telling them to use bitcoin!

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October 20, 2011, 09:18:25 AM
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Paypal: doing every thing it can to help bitcoin.
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October 20, 2011, 07:14:07 PM
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Cool ! I recieved an answer from the Diaspora team Cheesy


My email to them :

Dear DIaspora Team ,
U are realy inspiring me !
Please consider accepting donations in Bitcoin!
As it is a superb example of decentralisation as ur work !!
I am sure many donations will go your way via BTC !
Have a great day !

A great Admirer!

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OK, Ilya, if all these requests for BitCoin don't get us moving on this front, I don't know what will.  PT Jetbrain, feel free to pester Ilya to submission...  Wink




SO WE HAVE AN SPAM MISSION MY FRIENDS Cheesy

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October 20, 2011, 07:18:14 PM
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OK, Ilya, if all these requests for BitCoin don't get us moving on this front, I don't know what will.  PT Jetbrain, feel free to pester Ilya to submission...  Wink




SO WE HAVE AN SPAM MISSION MY FRIENDS Cheesy

 Cheesy Keep it mature everyone, be nice and polite and honest if you will be using their services or not.  I really think if they grasp they could have more business possibly based on accepting this form of currency, it would be good.

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October 20, 2011, 07:25:57 PM
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>there are already Diaspora Pods online which accept BTC donations!

it would be so aaawwwweeesssooommeee if the diaspora community could fin a way to make btc sending and recieving in exchange for hosting pods , writing good comments etc workable....u see if u post a lot good stuff peopel can send u 0.0001 btc etc..or for funny stuff etc..

so there would also an incentive be created for JOINING diaspora beacuse all people hear-> .."hey i can earn money simply from my personality lol"

and then we connect this with the following 3 things -> http://wiki.daviddarts.com/PirateBox & http://www.mondonet.org & http://villagetelco.org/

and we `re in Paradise Cheesy


I personally would be ready to pay my pod hoster 1 btc a month (equal to 2,5$ price) for doing his job well & securing my data and personal informations..the more my profile & data is worht..the more i must pay or delete it and maybe go to another pod..

would create an market for pod hosters and initiative to strenghten the network and to create more and more pods..with ever tighter security mechanisms....

just my thoughts ..hopefully somebody can understand them Cheesy

and can even form then into simple and an good explanatory text..and elaborate on this ..

it`s worth a bounty to me Cheesy..and then we send it to the Diaspora team Cheesy

anybody understands what i want to say? sorry i am already a bit drunk..great wine here ^^

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October 21, 2011, 01:58:08 AM
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There's a technical feature request for bitcoin and the discussion is not going well (nothing more than a ponzi scheme): https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/2188

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October 21, 2011, 02:01:53 AM
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Cheesy Keep it mature everyone, be nice and polite and honest if you will be using their services or not.  I really think if they grasp they could have more business possibly based on accepting this form of currency, it would be good.


We have a committment from them to accept bitcoins and I am talking to their accouting person to get this setup.  So anyone who emailed them, thank you.  I will post when they are up and running.  It would be nice if everyone that contacted them would make a small donation to stand behind the spam effort.  Thanks!

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October 21, 2011, 05:22:11 AM
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https://www.diasporafoundation.org/donate  they have bitcoin listed on the diaspora foundation.

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