BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post.

[JollyGood]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/

A small excerpt from the Reddit post warning people how Dean Nolan could not justify having the Betking website ICO. Why did people invest back then?

If it was lack of "due-diligence" that Dean Nolan boasted of recently as he blamed the investors for them ending up with an investment that gave them little or no return while the same time making Dean Nolan an overnight millionaire then that sadly is that but even now with the way the structure of the useless and worthless Betking tokens are set up Dean Nolan is allowing gullible people to buy the tokens directly from the shady Betking website.

"You need to lay out exactly what this 2000 bitcoin is going towards.

I think an important question is, why would any contacts or software developer you know want to help build you a casino platform that's worth a damn if you they aren't going to have any equity in the business? Why wouldn't they just build it on their own?

Imagine you walked into Shark Tank and you told Mark Cuban 'I want 1.5 million dollars (2000 btc) for you to invest in 30% of my company. I've shown success in this other market, but this new market I've never been in and I don't know yet exactly what we're going to do, but I know a lot of people in the industry, trust me'. You'd be laughed off the show.

It is also important to note that 1 bitcoin earned 2 years ago is not equal to 1 bitcoin earned today. Back then, the price was about $250, and now its at $750. Even 6 months ago, the price of bitcoin was about 60% of what it is now. A huge chunk of the profit came from those time periods. Bitcoin is at, basically, an all time high. I get the thought process from your perspective, although I think it is misguided. You've tried to sell Betking at least 2 other points in the past year that I can remember, but the problem is almost all of Betking's value stems from the bitcoin community's trust in Dean. The brand and software has very little value in my opinion - that's why no one ever offers anything close to what Dean feels Betking is worth (apparently 7000 btc)."

All people thinking of buying Betking tokens, please do not do it! I feel sorry for the ICO investors and those that bought Betking tokens from the Betking website after the ICO.

It makes great reading those comments from people that have been scammed by Dean Nolan. We all know Dean Nolan closed the Betking thread here because people began asking him about the 2017 ICO and how investors bought in pathetic useless Betking tokens.

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[JollyGood]

Any comments regarding the Reddit post?

[chazley]

Any comments regarding the Reddit post?

Yea... it was mine lol. Dean got eviscerated in that thread.

[jhdscript]

It appears it has a vry bad reputation...

[JollyGood]

Any comments regarding the Reddit post?

Yea... it was mine lol. Dean got eviscerated in that thread.

I really liked the analogy when you wrote in that Reddit post:
"Imagine you walked into Shark Tank and you told Mark Cuban 'I want 1.5 million dollars (2000 btc) for you to invest in 30% of my company. I've shown success in this other market, but this new market I've never been in and I don't know yet exactly what we're going to do, but I know a lot of people in the industry, trust me'. You'd be laughed off the show."

Why on earth did people fall for it and invest in this disastrous 2017 ICO that many people say was designed to make Dean Nolan a millionaire by him siphoning off large chunks of the ICO funds as there was no accountability to show exactly where the funds were spent. For example some people say the 30 million Betking tokens that were supposed to be used for promotion and development (as mentioned in the whitepaper) were not correctly used for that purpose.

If the website was already created and already "ready" and was virtually the same website which Dean Nolan closed in 2016 only to re-launch in 2017 then he has been accused of siphoning off those funds for himself.

My opinions are not important but people are calling Betking and Dean Nolan scam and scammer because there are no published accounts to show what Betking has been doing and because Dean Nolan has locked the Betking thread to stifle those who are asking him to explain where the ICO funds went, where the 50% ICO funds supposed to be used for bankroll are and those askign him to return the ICO money to investors and token holders because his calculation to obtain the Betking token price is basically pathetic.

Shame on Dean Nolan for accusing investors of not using "due-diligence" and blamed them for investing (because they did not read the small print). Disgraceful behaviour by Dean Nolan.

[JollyGood]

It appears it has a vry bad reputation...

Both of them (Dean Nolan and Betking) do have a very bad reputation. Dean Nolan just sent me this PM a short while ago:

"lol you are that sad that you made a script to post the second my thread was unlocked Smiley
get a life.

You wonder why no investors are posting in your thread? Because everything you have said has been asbolute shit and lies.
You have not even bothered to listen when I answered questions and instead just post until my reply is burried.

I also know about your very poor seo effort.

I take it you are paid by stake/pd or something?"

Seriously, is this the pathetic little worm that fooled investors in to parting with their money in the scam ICO?

[Sukut]

People who trusted these bad reputations guy deserve anything tbh

[JollyGood]

People who trusted these bad reputations guy deserve anything tbh

Well the truth is people can be trusting or gullible and newbies are easily fooled so they might not know or understand the truth about scams so I cannot agree with your statement.

Instead of blaming investors and users for getting scammed and getting ripped off, I prefer to blame the scammers instead.

[JollyGood]

The scammer is back in the forum after he threw his toys out of his pram and spat out his dummy. He threw a tantrum and said he would leave for good but the scammer is back.

Everybody beware of the scammer Dean Nolan and his betking and bitsafe scams.

[JollyGood]

As usual no one in this forum has any idea what they are talking about including Ryan with his snarky comments.

Yet, you make no attempt of actual clarifying.

Everyone posting about BKB when they don't know how many tokens I've bought back or own or how many people were happy to switch already to the new project or any actual internal running of the business.

Seems kind of irrelevant? You massively screwed BKB holders, I believe some investors were selling their BKB tokens at < 20% of their "buy back" price after you renegged on your promises. Even if a small amount of people were screwed, the fact is you still screwed your investors. (I also have a hard time believing it was an insignificant amount, or why would you even ruin your name over it?)

Now we have people jumping to conclusions about the prizes and talking about multi accounting.
Where did I say the contest was cancelled only because of multi accounting?

You do realize that this is a forum? You can post your justification for the pretty insanely drastic action of reverting all the bets and not giving out the promised prizes? Complaining that no one one understands your reasons and refusing to provide them isn't exactly a good look.

It's stupid for anyone to call it a scam when no one at all loses money.

Only need to see the posters though, 2 actual participants have posted and zero investors and zero token holders. Just trolls and haters. Pathetic.

I also know you're well-aware you have seriously disadvantaged some players with your bet/prize reversal.  I talked to someone in private who is in this bucket as they should've won a significant amount from the wagering contest. kolloh from this forum (who did post) also appears to have been similarly been harmed.

Considering your should've paid out 20 BTC + 50% EV (??) in prizes, but net player loss during Dec was pretty minor -- it's rather obvious the only reason you did the reversal is because you end up with a lot more money in your pocket than if you didn't.

I'm really trying to be charitable here considering your long history in the bitcoin world, but I have trouble seeing what you're doing as anything other than first scamming investors and now your players. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'd really like to be.

A very interesting read.

The scammer Dean Nolan has decided to cancel paying out over 20 BTC to winners of last weeks Christmas wager promotion because too many people won and he would have to give away too many BTC. He decided he did not want to do that so he cancelled all bets.

The serial scammer pathetic fool Dean Nolan has outdone himself with this one... again

 

[game-protect]

A very interesting read.

The scammer Dean Nolan has decided to cancel paying out over 20 BTC to winners of last weeks Christmas wager promotion because too many people won and he would have to give away too many BTC. He decided he did not want to do that so he cancelled all bets.

The serial scammer pathetic fool Dean Nolan has outdone himself with this one... again

 

Without the required dumbasses, scam artist Dean Nolan would be a ZERO!

[JollyGood]

A very interesting read.

The scammer Dean Nolan has decided to cancel paying out over 20 BTC to winners of last weeks Christmas wager promotion because too many people won and he would have to give away too many BTC. He decided he did not want to do that so he cancelled all bets.

The serial scammer pathetic fool Dean Nolan has outdone himself with this one... again

 

Without the required dumbasses, scam artist Dean Nolan would be a ZERO!

I call them "victims" because they were scammed.

It is true scammer Dean Nolan would be "zero" if he was unable to scam people but the people who got scammed were not to blame, they were unfortunate enough to fall for the betking scam.

[JollyGood]

These claims made by scammer Dean Nolan in the screenshot below are hilarious.

Scammer Dean Nolan claims to be working 14 hours a day when cannot code a line.

The scammer Dean Nolan thinks betking will attract "200,000 new potential players" thanks to the EOS token airdrop  

Now he goes around telling people on the betking scam chat he is applying for a gambling licence from the UK authorities  

He wrote "we are working on it" but there is no "we". Scammer Dean Nolan is a one-man-band that tries all he can to dupe people and he hires freelancers to modify the website.

As for the UK gambling licence he is "working on", that is an out-and-out lie. The UK authorities will never give a gaming licence to scam projects registered off-shore in Costa Rica and those that cshow 2013-2019 copyright in the footer when the "betking" domain was registered in 2015  (created on 14th October 2015) 

[Pedro12528]

I've wanted to buy their tokens not so long ago, good that I havent done this

[nakamura12]

I've wanted to buy their tokens not so long ago, good that I havent done this

You could have lose your money at that time if you did buy. That is the reason why participants should do their own research to the project or campaign they participated to make sure if it is legit or a scam project especially the people behind the project or campaign. With this event, people did jump into conclusions.

[rdbase]

I've wanted to buy their tokens not so long ago, good that I havent done this

I remember seeing their ico open and selling tokens for their website.
Was thinking about buying some but glad I didnt after all.
Never heard of Dean nolan before and didnt know he was a scammer either. Very bad for the crypto gambling community to know a notorious known scammer can just open a casino and start his exploits.

[wwzsocki]

It appears it has a vry bad reputation...

Both of them (Dean Nolan and Betking) do have a very bad reputation. Dean Nolan just sent me this PM a short while ago:

"lol you are that sad that you made a script to post the second my thread was unlocked Smiley
get a life.

You wonder why no investors are posting in your thread? Because everything you have said has been asbolute shit and lies.
You have not even bothered to listen when I answered questions and instead just post until my reply is burried.

I also know about your very poor seo effort.

I take it you are paid by stake/pd or something?"

Seriously, is this the pathetic little worm that fooled investors in to parting with their money in the scam ICO?

I don't know if this is a scam and the story behind this ICO but he is right when he wrote in the message that there are almost no comments from investors in your thread.

I see you try to let people know about this and post to make this thread visible but still there are no comments from scammed investors.

Where are they? Why are they not complaining here?

[Symphonized]

It appears it has a vry bad reputation...

Both of them (Dean Nolan and Betking) do have a very bad reputation. Dean Nolan just sent me this PM a short while ago:

"lol you are that sad that you made a script to post the second my thread was unlocked Smiley
get a life.

You wonder why no investors are posting in your thread? Because everything you have said has been asbolute shit and lies.
You have not even bothered to listen when I answered questions and instead just post until my reply is burried.

I also know about your very poor seo effort.

I take it you are paid by stake/pd or something?"

Seriously, is this the pathetic little worm that fooled investors in to parting with their money in the scam ICO?

Am I the only one who noticed his "I take it you are paid by stake/pd or something?"? What is that guy issue with Primedice and Stake? I didnt get it

[Haunebu]

It appears it has a vry bad reputation...

Both of them (Dean Nolan and Betking) do have a very bad reputation. Dean Nolan just sent me this PM a short while ago:

"lol you are that sad that you made a script to post the second my thread was unlocked Smiley
get a life.

You wonder why no investors are posting in your thread? Because everything you have said has been asbolute shit and lies.
You have not even bothered to listen when I answered questions and instead just post until my reply is burried.

I also know about your very poor seo effort.

I take it you are paid by stake/pd or something?"

Seriously, is this the pathetic little worm that fooled investors in to parting with their money in the scam ICO?

I don't know if this is a scam and the story behind this ICO but he is right when he wrote in the message that there are almost no comments from investors in your thread.

I see you try to let people know about this and post to make this thread visible but still there are no comments from scammed investors.

Where are they? Why are they not complaining here?

Betking has been called out as a scam by tons of people in various threads even though not many have posted in this thread which is why I appreciate these efforts by op to save innocent people from investing into this website.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.0

https://game-protect.com/betking-scam/

There are many legit websites out there which is why I advise staying far away from this particular website. Do your research people.

[Carollzinha]

It appears it has a vry bad reputation...

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I don't know if this is a scam and the story behind this ICO but he is right when he wrote in the message that there are almost no comments from investors in your thread.

I see you try to let people know about this and post to make this thread visible but still there are no comments from scammed investors.

Where are they? Why are they not complaining here?

It is know from history and based past facts the Betking did in fact stolen some BTC from their users. While some had their withdrawls pending and there were issues inside their site which would make funds kinda "lost" themselves.