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September 28, 2018, 12:34:38 PM
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just keep it in the wallet we have and we always make sure that our monitor is safe, and we always open it in the hope that no hackers hack it.
well, it's a very simple thing to say, but it's hard to do. we know that our needs always come suddenly. You might be able to do that when you have a business to run. I am currently also trying to do that.

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September 28, 2018, 01:13:58 PM
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make it a habit to withdraw assets in a matter of percent every month, all must be managed regularly, making sure to take the smallest percentage and still maintain capital assets to continue trading.

save on trusted hardwallet for potential assets like bitcoin, these coins are very reactive with price increases every year. If you want crypto assets to be stable now, Tether is a good alternative.

Take care of the interests of assets with personal interests. However, there must be strong discipline to maintain everything.

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September 29, 2018, 07:47:55 AM
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Saving money on a long-term period of time has several ways, but if you are asking how to have savings here in Bitcoin or crypto world for what I did actually, every time there is a profit I received whether it is from trading or bounty campaigns I automatic segregate the 15% on my earnings then place and keep it on my offline wallet like hardware wallet or cold wallet then hold it in a long term.
I had also do that method but i end up spending my savings because of some emergency cases that arise.But i still want to save again for my future because there is no assurance that your body will always be fit, and you can't work anymore too because of the old age already.
Thats true, you also have to think about your future later dude, try to set aside always a few percent of the income you get each week in cold storage to store up to the future so that your future can be guaranteed, I also do that at least take 30% of my income for stored long term..
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September 29, 2018, 08:10:44 AM
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Keeping our money on Gold or precious metal is good but not flexible. But if the purpose is to keep our asset for long term and store of value, i think we can considering Gold or others precious metal because its known for years
In my opinion putting money in crypto or in real estate is not saving but is investing. You can save money by making a routine budget for your expenses and strictly follow that program. When you a have a program of your income and expenditures, you will be able to save some money for your future. You can invest that money in crypto or in some regular business.
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September 29, 2018, 08:31:53 AM
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If you want to save your money all you have to do is to invest and make your own bank account so that you have a money that can use in the future.
I agree with you sir. If you really want to save money on a very long period of time and you want to earn as well, it's better for you to invest it in a bank so that time goes by the money that you've invested is growing, like a land time goes by the price of the land is increasing.

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September 29, 2018, 09:16:21 AM
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How to save money on a long-term period or an essay on black metal.
       This is the translation of my original article. The original is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4452770.0

I apologize for my English. This is not my native language and I have to use an automatic translator. But I think that you will understand my main thoughts.

Hello friends! Bitcoin is cool. I am an enthusiast of bitcoin and I hope for his growth. But periodically, all holders have to face problems. In this topic, I would like to share with you my idea (and experience) on how to keep the constant value of your money (and even multiply it by a percentage higher than inflation) over the long term. What do I mean by long-term? Period of time in the range from six months to several years and even up to tens of years. The latter is also possible (I think so), although, personally for me it is more of a theoretical interest.
Why is this relevant and how is it related to the cryptoworld? I think that you already guessed). It's wonderful to be a holder and a tractor) crypts on bull (and, especially, a long bull market), but from time to time come to us very different times. Yes, from time to time long bear markets come to us. As an exemplary example of such a market, you can cite the year 2014, when almost the whole year bitkoyn, and with it the rest of the crypt, basically fell.
       I foresee a similar scenario in the not-too-distant future; of course, after the cue ball is once again otzemunitsya (well, if it really happens).
       So, suppose that you are an investor with some margin of crypt. Let's say that you were able to correctly anticipate all the roller coaster growth and the beginning of the bearish crypt market. There are signs that this is serious and for a long time. You'll have to wait for turbulent times in fiat or its steeblechkan equivalents.
But!:
Will it be right to keep money in fiat on a long-term basis? (by default, we mean that the fall will be indefinitely - long, from six months to several years - the bitcoat cycles are stretched).
     Finite money for long-term storage has many drawbacks. Firstly, whatever they say, and Fiat - it's just pieces of paper and figures in the database (in the case of a non-cashier), not protected against rampant inflation (which, by the way, is very different from officially stated). Nobody and nothing can prevent the state from printing these pieces of paper and tsiferok as it deems necessary. A real example before our eyes is the depreciation of the ruble against the dollar in 2015 +/- 2 times and the subsequent price increase. In my opinion, only solid material assets (or bitkoyn can protect you from such devaluations, but it, as we agreed, in this case is in the hands of bears). Below I'll talk about this in more detail, and now a little about how I came to the conclusion about the effectiveness of saving funds in black metal. I came to this idea spontaneously - intuitively.
    In 2014, I thought about building a house with a garage, more precisely, first about the general extended foundation for them. For these purposes, I purchased a sufficient number of metal fittings. I bought with a decent amount of this excess, as I kept in mind another building object. After the construction of the foundation, the majority of the reinforcement remained, however, and the construction season was crumbling. For a while I forgot about my metal. He was lying on my plot in front of the future garage with a huge heap (tied up). I remembered about the valve only in 2015 after the devaluation of the ruble. And I was pleasantly surprised at the preservation of the value of my money))). I tried to test the remaining metal. After the announcement on Avito, several real sellers responded at once, which pleased me pleasantly. They were ready "right now" to buy up all of my armature.
Although the price I put even higher than the market ... it's by the way, eloquently speaks about the liquidity of black metal. This gave me serious food for thought and I ... changed my mind about selling, and used metal for construction on another of my real estate properties. But the very idea of ​​keeping the value in black metal, as they say, has deeply sunk into my soul. I realized that in this capacity, black metal, perhaps, would plug the belt and gold and real estate and, even more so, cash (there were crypto accumulations at the time, but no one knew how long this "exhausting flat" would last) . Before the next crisis in the crypt (the current one I do not consider a crisis), I plan to decently recoup with black metal. Most likely in the form of reinforcement, it can be profile and round pipes, most running sizes)
      And now let's compare in order the black metal as a means of preserving value with cash, gold, real estate and, for example, antiques).
      1.) Black metal and cash
1. "Internal Value" (hereinafter referred to as the consumer value). Cash has no intrinsic value; they are unable to perform functions other than exchange (for other money, assets or goods). That is, theoretically they can depreciate completely (a fantastic scenario, but nevertheless). Black metal can always be used for its intended purpose in construction.
2. Stability of value on the long-term. In the long term, Fiat is gradually depreciating, black metal is not. It, of course, can rust, but we mean responsible dry storage indoors. The joke is that my armature was lying open for several years. It is a bit rusted, but no one pays any attention to it, the cost is preserved).

3. Compactness
Black metal is not as compact as various forms of fiat money, but it is not necessarily seen as a drawback. But it's not so easy to steal it). Compare that it's easier to steal: a bundle of banknotes (crack non-cash money) or a ton of black metal))).

2.) Black metal and gold.
Gold has many of its forms, each of which is not very convenient for long-term storage:
Gold bars (hemorrhoids with banks, registration, difficulties in selling back, state monopoly and seller bank, unfair prices for you.) If you store gold in a bank, you pay decently for storing your gold, as a result your savings melt)
- Investment coins. Again, you will trade with the bank in a way that is not profitable for you, because you are in unequal relations with it.
- Jewelry. The problem with the sale. There is no uniformity, each product is unique. A substantial part of the price contains the work of a jeweler, which your buyer can evaluate.
- Various forms of non-material gold ("paper gold", assets tied to gold, various derivatives on / from it) Intangibles here are the main minus.
Gold loses to black metal in practical use. In the regulation and limitations of its turnover. In too great a variety of forms and the absence of rigid unification (which could have a positive effect on liquidity)

3.) Black metal and real estate
Real estate loses to black metal:
1. The need to register transactions in a specially created for this purpose state institution
2. Real estate objects are too diverse and not uniform, which can make their sale more difficult. Each property is unique in its own way.
3. Black metal has a "volume flexibility". You can buy a little more or a little less in a fairly large range. The real estate object needs to either buy in its entirety or not buy at all ("take what is given")
4. Black metal is mobile)
5. Buying a property you "buy" and neighbors and infrastructure that may wish for the best and with what (and with whom) you have to put up. With black metal, this is not necessary.

4.) Black metal and antiques
Antiques can be uncomfortable for a novice investor. In it it is necessary to understand. It takes years to develop competence. This is a separate occupation. Again, internal heterogeneity and a huge variety of antiques can affect liquidity. In regions and small towns this direction may be undeveloped (and most likely not developed). The practical importance of black metal is much higher than that of antiques. I think that in a crisis this is manifested more strongly.
 So, I briefly outlined the prospects for investing in ferrous metal. We can say that this is one of the ideal instruments that hedge the risks of crypto currency. But does black metal have drawbacks? Unfortunately - yes, more precisely, I would say, features. More precisely, I see only one feature - a disadvantage. For a resident of a city, especially a large one, owning an asset such as ferrous metal may not be very convenient). All the same, you need a garage, or some kind of storage space on the property rights or opportunities for free access. Friends, that's all. Write how you wait for the bearish long-term markets)

             09/09/2018
Many people who comment on my topic, do not read my arguments at all. And do not know what it's written about. I am writing about the preservation of funds from depreciation during the BEAR PERIOD in the bitokoin market. Of course, when the bull will begin and the currency will begin to grow, there is no longer any need to keep funds in black metal.
   The people write nonsense about the fact that you need to put money in the bank, that you need to cut unnecessary costs and so on. This all has nothing to do with the subject of  topic. The desire to put money in the bank to save the cost of their money - for me this is a sign of low intelligence.

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If you want to save a money in a very long period of time you can invest in bankings or here in crypto so that while your investing your money you are gaining also as time goes by. Investing is a wise idea for you to earn or extra money without doing anything just invest it.
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September 29, 2018, 02:35:59 PM
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If you want to save your money all you have to do is to invest and make your own bank account so that you have a money that can use in the future.
I agree with you sir. If you really want to save money on a very long period of time and you want to earn as well, it's better for you to invest it in a bank so that time goes by the money that you've invested is growing, like a land time goes by the price of the land is increasing.

Business. Base it on your interests. I mean putting your money in banks is good, though it negates movement. And when difficult times happen, you may be forced to take that money out which means spending your savings.

 
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September 29, 2018, 03:02:36 PM
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If you want to save your money all you have to do is to invest and make your own bank account so that you have a money that can use in the future.
Saving money in a long term period of time is also good if you have money to save every month for your savings but if how long you are saving if you can't save money regular then you cannot save more than expected. I suggest that you must set also a goal for saving money especially if you monthly income is almost exact with your daily needs especially for your family so we must know how to manage also our income/money/bitcoin eveey month for our savings.
Saving money for a long time is good because it will help you to fulfill all you needs and wants. Having a goal to save is a very good idea and I always save money so that I can money once there is an emergency. If you want to make more savings you should try to have some investments or job.
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September 29, 2018, 04:54:24 PM
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You can detect all the altcoins and icos that have been bottomed, invest in them and lose as long as you expect. But we are losing because of our ambitions. In this case, you never lose all of your money in the hands as long as the decline occurs, but your average will be lower.
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October 01, 2018, 07:41:12 AM
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To save money on a long term period, you can choose to invest in the large cap coins on the market, thus the first 10 coins on the market. Any of the top 10 coins is more than capable of rising up on the market due to the large investor-support they've got. Those coins take on the rises gradually, hence are very good coins for long term keeping of money and making profits as well.
The question is not where to invest, but how to save money. You can invest anywhere you want but the problem is that how to save money. When you have money you will invest it somewhere, but if you no extra money how can you invest? We should reduce our daily expenses and avoid unnecessary things which need money. We can save that money easily.
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October 01, 2018, 09:47:09 AM
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For me the best way to save money on a long term period is every time you get your salary get the 10% of it and invest it in a stocks or in bitcoin. Every cut-off its good to save your 10% for investment. Even the market is on uptrend or downtrend it doesn't matter because your money will cost average it a month so when you at it after a long period you will see that your saved money has a lot more because of profit you get from the stocks or bitcoin you invest into. Don't just save, invest it in an investment instrument that you want and soon you will reap what you sow.
That is one strategy I have always used for myself right from the onset, and you will be surprised at how easy it is for you in the long run, and how valuable savings can be when you want to start executing some investment projects. Like you said, savings should always be an investment instrument, and this is the reason why those who have a specific target related to investment, savings usually is never a huge challenge.
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October 01, 2018, 10:00:16 AM
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For me the best way to save money on a long term period is every time you get your salary get the 10% of it and invest it in a stocks or in bitcoin. Every cut-off its good to save your 10% for investment. Even the market is on uptrend or downtrend it doesn't matter because your money will cost average it a month so when you at it after a long period you will see that your saved money has a lot more because of profit you get from the stocks or bitcoin you invest into. Don't just save, invest it in an investment instrument that you want and soon you will reap what you sow.
That is one strategy I have always used for myself right from the onset, and you will be surprised at how easy it is for you in the long run, and how valuable savings can be when you want to start executing some investment projects. Like you said, savings should always be an investment instrument, and this is the reason why those who have a specific target related to investment, savings usually is never a huge challenge.
by setting aside the free money we will be calm in facing the market. of course it has been fulfilled for that. with the right investment place like cryptos, then we will get a big profit later

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October 01, 2018, 10:43:15 AM
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You have created a good topic and nice ideas for someone whos looking for strategy,because these days specially the dumping season people are trying to find place where they can have assurance for their money while waiting for the cryptocurrencies to recover,

For me what i did to keep my money for long term,is building my own business and now since its about foods i am sure my money will grow in long term
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October 01, 2018, 11:30:19 AM
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There are several ways to save the right money which makes us able to build wealth and beat inflation. Investment can beat inflation and maintain the value of money we currently have. Even not just beating inflation, the investment returns have the potential to provide greater asset growth thus providing benefits to you in the future.
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October 02, 2018, 06:30:49 AM
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there are two ways to save your money, saving on a bank or invest to some assets but make sure the assets have good progress on the future
The latest way to save money and in the same time get the worth of your money raised is to invest it in an asset that is too good. Bitcoin is one of that and is used to save money in long run. Ultimately in the end, the worth of the coins owned is many times the initial worth of the coins. Similarly investing in assets that are solid like in the property or the structural investment is a good way to save money keeping the liquidity high.
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October 02, 2018, 08:09:59 AM
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just keep it in the wallet we have and we always make sure that our monitor is safe, and we always open it in the hope that no hackers hack it.
well, it's a very simple thing to say, but it's hard to do. we know that our needs always come suddenly. You might be able to do that when you have a business to run. I am currently also trying to do that.
I understood your point of view. You are actually worried about the precautionary demand for money. Well you can take care of that by putting a specific amount of money in your current account and can cash it anytime when you want. This is the best way to deal with the precautionary demand for money. Apportion a specific amount for meeting your daily needs and save the rest for future use.
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October 03, 2018, 03:39:58 AM
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I don't know if saving your money is a good thing. What i suggest is investing it for a long term stock. Crypto currency is a good start. Bitcoin and Ethereum are always the best starting points. Next would be stocks, though you will need alot of reading up to be successful. Lastly is precious metals and stones.

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October 11, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
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I will choose to save money by buying a number of gold. One time I needed money, I would sell the gold. I'm not too interested in saving money in a bank.

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October 11, 2018, 06:18:38 PM
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The only way to keep your investments in a long time is to get a secure wallet and keep them there. But it can sometimes be very difficult to accomplish this. Unfortunately, our needs can prevent us from doing this.

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October 11, 2018, 09:08:31 PM
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If you want to save money on a long-term period then have to do an investment in bitcoin. You can do both the things in one investment, means you can do savings as well as you can make a profit from it.
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