Estimated Hash Rates for the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti

[Race-Coin]

Would it be worth to upgrade from 1080ti?

[abstractHaze]

Would it be worth to upgrade from 1080ti?

sure.

[Meteorite777]

If they developed an EthLargement pill for the newer Turing architecture, we might speculate atleast a 50% increase in hashrate at max or around 84mh/s.

The 1080Ti and EthLargement Pill works by editing the memory timings of GDDR5X memory specifically though; and 2080Ti uses GDDR6 memory so I'm not sure if it would apply in the same way. By that same argument they could make an Ethlargement Pill for 1060/1070 and straight GDDR5 Memory too but they haven't. I'm not well-versed enough in the implentation to argue either for or against but yes you could be right.

[RivAngE]

If they developed an EthLargement pill for the newer Turing architecture, we might speculate atleast a 50% increase in hashrate at max or around 84mh/s.

The 1080Ti and EthLargement Pill works by editing the memory timings of GDDR5X memory specifically though; and 2080Ti uses GDDR6 memory so I'm not sure if it would apply in the same way. By that same argument they could make an Ethlargement Pill for 1060/1070 and straight GDDR5 Memory too but they haven't. I'm not well-versed enough in the implentation to argue either for or against but yes you could be right.

But they've made it for "older cards" too (3:00 of interview: https://youtu.be/ZLTRYp_kCYg?t=180), it's a private tool though and they sell them to companies.
Now if they'll release a 2080ti tool for free... I don't know... but they could if they wanted to.

[swogerino]

The data are not that impressive considering the price of a Rtx 2080 ti which is over 1000 dollars and the mining rewards from Gpu mining computers right now it is not worth to spend that amount of money for a card who only mines at less than 50 mhs , it may be the best card mining ethereum yet but not worth to spend over 1000 dollars for a single card.

If you want to sell it after some time , still it is a fifty-fifty successful situation in my opinion.

[szczur333]

after crypto prices falling

2x RX570 card can be bought for about 1600zł (PLN) here (its about 435$)

hashes about 55-60mhash easy

used even 20% cheaper

even with pill - miners will not buy 2xxx series for 1000$ O_O

[netto7]

Would it be worth to upgrade from 1080ti?

for gamer it sure

for miner i dont think so

[jazz1984]

Would it be worth to upgrade from 1080ti?

for gamer it sure

for miner i dont think so

I think it's too early to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of new video cards. To begin with, we need to know the hasrate and power consumption on different algorithms, and then we can make a desition.

[Marvell2]

Would it be worth to upgrade from 1080ti?

for gamer it sure

for miner i dont think so

I think it's too early to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of new video cards. To begin with, we need to know the hasrate and power consumption on different algorithms, and then we can make a desition.

the 2080 seems the same speed as a 1080ti with 24% less power consumption
that might be worth the $150 premium

[RivAngE]

Who is mining Ethereum anyway? (obviously still many people... ) I prefer the x16r and HEX hashing algorithms. I've found also Renesis which is using their own algo and have promised to have forks ready to implement the moment an ASIC or FPGA has been found on their network, but they're still a small team unlike the teams that support x16r and HEX.

Personally I've lost my interest in the long-term sustainability of Ethereum because I think its progression is lagging and ARK will soon surpass Ethereum's technology and usage... and also since mining and instant-selling ETH isn't profitable either, I just stay away from it altogether.

[agapes]

ok finaly i got my RTX 2080 today
i put on nemos miner start benchmarking, i will put the benchmark chart as soon as benchmarking done
but for now seems  look 1080 Ti maybe a bit more on some algorithms but on some of them is less thars shame

https://imgur.com/a/Euzycaa

this is half of the benchmark
still need more benchmark ill put about 45min

[agapes]

ok finaly benchmark done!
this is so far all algorythm and hashrate for RTX 2080   (Card is in normal mode not overclocked),

that's really disappointing
$1 a day max
also, no any equihash(zcash) miner supported yet


https://imgur.com/a/dCbI0wn

if you have any question or need hashrate for any algorithm let me know to i test it

but again dont buy this card wasting your money

[RivAngE]

I'm sorry for all of you guys who bought the non-ti version...
It's a 1080ti with two extra cores for AI factions and Ray Tracing, from which cores we might or more likely might not see a mining usage.

Nvidia should have named their products differently,
2080ti should be named 2080
2080 should be named 2070
2070 should be named 2060

If in a year they release a 2090 then I suppose I'm right.

(Btw I've preordered the 2080ti FTW3 and I'm not sad at all! I want it mainly for gaming and if it can mine at least decently, that's a bonus!)

[revenant2017]

ok finaly benchmark done!
this is so far all algorythm and hashrate for RTX 2080   (Card is in normal mode not overclocked),

that's really disappointing
$1 a day max
also, no any equihash(zcash) miner supported yet


https://imgur.com/a/dCbI0wn

if you have any question or need hashrate for any algorithm let me know to i test it

but again dont buy this card wasting your money

Quite disappointing though because the fastest possible ROI for 1 RTX 2080 is 600+ days or almost 2 years. At that time, the card is already near it's end of lifespan.

[grendel25]

So far, what I'm seeing is that the 2080 Ti is and will continue to be an improvement while people still make a value argument regarding what is better: Pay less for 10-series or pay 2x as much for 20-series.

The problem with that logic flow is that it makes valuation fallacies.  Ultimately, people should pay what they can afford but just because something costs 2x more doesn't mean that GPU farms won't acquire 20-series for the meager percentage gains because the gains can and most likely will outpace upfront costs in the long run as well as preventing losses when new opportunities present themselves.

So if I were to replace a $500 1080Ti with a $1K 20-Series card.  I paid $500 more at one time on one day.  From here on out, I gain some arbitrary percentage more in performance as well as power efficiency which matters more or less to different people paying different amounts for energy.  Unless you are on some sort of deadline, it doesn't matter if the 10-series or 20-series ROIs first.  Once they ROI, the 20-series will forever hold the profitability high-ground.  On top of all that, it is just as likely that there could be some unique development that only the 20-series could benefit from.  Some RT specific algo perhaps. 

Now, I'm not going to run out and instantly replace 10-series rigs.  However, I am watching the 20-series market closely as I expect any rational person would.

[RivAngE]

Interesting overclocking video here: https://youtu.be/FpmDa5VetME
've preordered the EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Ultra and I seem to have chose the right manufacturer!

[navarthelol]

So far, what I'm seeing is that the 2080 Ti is and will continue to be an improvement while people still make a value argument regarding what is better: Pay less for 10-series or pay 2x as much for 20-series.

The problem with that logic flow is that it makes valuation fallacies.  Ultimately, people should pay what they can afford but just because something costs 2x more doesn't mean that GPU farms won't acquire 20-series for the meager percentage gains because the gains can and most likely will outpace upfront costs in the long run as well as preventing losses when new opportunities present themselves.

So if I were to replace a $500 1080Ti with a $1K 20-Series card.  I paid $500 more at one time on one day.  From here on out, I gain some arbitrary percentage more in performance as well as power efficiency which matters more or less to different people paying different amounts for energy.  Unless you are on some sort of deadline, it doesn't matter if the 10-series or 20-series ROIs first.  Once they ROI, the 20-series will forever hold the profitability high-ground.  On top of all that, it is just as likely that there could be some unique development that only the 20-series could benefit from.  Some RT specific algo perhaps.  

Now, I'm not going to run out and instantly replace 10-series rigs.  However, I am watching the 20-series market closely as I expect any rational person would.

You forgot to say *IF* the 20-series ROIs, then it will hold the high ground. Today the yields are pretty terrible, but there are other innovations round the corner that could make GPUs obsolete; the acorns from squirrel labs; the FPGAs quietly being bulk produced and preorders placed in the background; the fact that POW has a questionable future e.g. Ethereum. These are all imminent dangers affecting profitability within the next 12 months, Acorns are meant to be shipping <1 month.

So I think arguing that paying 100% more for a 10% increase on a card that *might* do ROI in 10 years is a valuation fallacy. But anyway, if you have a fully operational set of rigs  I could understand purchasing some additional 2080TIs and expanding that operation, but I can't understand your logic for selling all your existing 1080 TI and replacing with 2080 TI. Maybe you entered the game at the right time and those 1080TI have already paid themselves off so the loss wouldn't be "as bad", but I still think it's pretty nonsensical to be buying hardware that you know has a bad cost:hash ratio- a GPU is never as profitable as the first day you turn it on, so economically speaking in a best case scenario, this time next year your 1080TI and 2080TI will have the same profitability as today.

Just my 2 cents as I have often seen in crypto land that when someone makes a bad investment, they often try to get others to share in that.

[TasosRiv]

On top of what navarthelol said, it also feels like Nvidia had PLANNED to make the 20 series cards bad for mining.

They added a bunch of expensive hardware which is probably not going to be helpful for mining except if a specific algo for Tensor cores is produced, but I doubt it since there are professional Volta cards around with much more power on them, it wouldn't make sense for a dev team to risk the stability of their coin like that.

Nvidia is focused on gaming and since AMD is miles behind Nvidia in gaming, only they might produce a GPU which is meaningful for mining.
I've bought a 2080ti but I'll use it for both gaming and mining, I can't see a reason for anyone to build a farm with these cards.

[john2231]

On top of what navarthelol said, it also feels like Nvidia had PLANNED to make the 20 series cards bad for mining.

They added a bunch of expensive hardware which is probably not going to be helpful for mining except if a specific algo for Tensor cores is produced, but I doubt it since there are professional Volta cards around with much more power on them, it wouldn't make sense for a dev team to risk the stability of their coin like that.

Nvidia is focused on gaming and since AMD is miles behind Nvidia in gaming, only they might produce a GPU which is meaningful for mining.
I've bought a 2080ti but I'll use it for both gaming and mining, I can't see a reason for anyone to build a farm with these cards.

I think there are some developers that they can develop a software to  improve the mining speed like gtx 1080 ti they made etherpill which improves the hashrate 70% so even Nvidia has plan to make a cards that bad on mining POW coins OhMyGodCompany can help to develop a software to improve hashrate.

[TasosRiv]

On top of what navarthelol said, it also feels like Nvidia had PLANNED to make the 20 series cards bad for mining.

They added a bunch of expensive hardware which is probably not going to be helpful for mining except if a specific algo for Tensor cores is produced, but I doubt it since there are professional Volta cards around with much more power on them, it wouldn't make sense for a dev team to risk the stability of their coin like that.

Nvidia is focused on gaming and since AMD is miles behind Nvidia in gaming, only they might produce a GPU which is meaningful for mining.
I've bought a 2080ti but I'll use it for both gaming and mining, I can't see a reason for anyone to build a farm with these cards.

I think there are some developers that they can develop a software to  improve the mining speed like gtx 1080 ti they made etherpill which improves the hashrate 70% so even Nvidia has plan to make a cards that bad on mining POW coins OhMyGodCompany can help to develop a software to improve hashrate.

I think this was an exceptional case because what the ETHpill did was to change the way some data was passed through the memory, the GDDR5X memory had some special needs as it seemed!
Judging by the hashrate difference of a 1080ti with ETHpill and a 2080ti's, I think the GDDR6 is scaling fine and there isn't much room for improvement.

My only hope for 20-series cards to become important for mining is for a a new algo which combines kernels which some are memory-intensive, some GPU-intensive, some require matrix operations (AI specific operations, taking advantage of Tensor cores) and if a Ray Tracing core would be detected, then use these to boost the hashrate somehow.

I'm not a developer so I don't know how accurate or possible are the things I've mentioned!