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Bitcoin doesn't actually "depend" on fiat money.It's price and value is measured in fiat money (USD and euro),but that doesn't mean that btc depends on those currencies.Bitcoin depends on the banks and the financial system,because most people ,who buy btc for the first time use credit/debit cards.
this is true, I agree what you say. I think this is good for the knowledge and insight of OP for assessment on bitcoin. and I think, crypto will not be the world currency, because after all each country has fiat currency that has been protected by law.
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August 25, 2018, 02:46:52 PM |
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it will be very difficult to replace banknotes in everyday life, what has happened for so long will be difficult to replace, but Bitcoin will compete with paper money, it may take a long time for bitcoin to replace paper money, for now it will probably be together until someone relents..
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If everyone in the world gets into crypto and cryptocurrency will become an official global currency, do you think bitcoin then will stop depending on fiat currency? Or will it just co-exist with fiat?
I don't think bitcoin depends on fiat or dollar. this is different from the real stock exchange. You have to know that, I think your logic must be slightly changed to better understand the crypto market.
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August 25, 2018, 03:07:57 PM |
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Well in theory that could happen if people only used bitcoin or crypto for transactions, but that's likely to never happen, just as the entire world doesn't just use one currency. Also you have to remember people are likely always going to trade it for something else whether it is fiat or another crypto and even fiat currencies are traded against each other and lose or gain value over time due to numerous factors so they will likely always co-exist together.
I agree. Of course there is a possibility but I bet, it will not happen. The ability to use bitcoin is still on the hands of the government though I don’t think bitcoin depends on fiat in the first place.
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August 25, 2018, 03:17:54 PM |
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Now the price of BTC can be bottomed out.
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August 25, 2018, 03:22:39 PM |
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If everyone in the world gets into crypto and cryptocurrency will become an official global currency, do you think bitcoin then will stop depending on fiat currency? Or will it just co-exist with fiat?
Would you exchange Bitcoin with something other than fiat mate? I bet the answer is a no, fiat is widely accepted and is The best thing to get in exchange for your Bitcoins, even if you buy services with Bitcoin, the one selling you the service Is going to sell the coins and get fiat for them to spend for something else. it will be very difficult to replace banknotes in everyday life, what has happened for so long will be difficult to replace, but Bitcoin will compete with paper money, it may take a long time for bitcoin to replace paper money, for now it will probably be together until someone relents..
Bitcoin is not supposed to replace the paper money, Bitcoin is here to compete with fiat and banks eventually. The ability to use bitcoin is still on the hands of the government though I don’t think bitcoin depends on fiat in the first place. Who says that the ability to use Bitcoin is in the hands of governments? you can send and receive Bitcoin without the Middle man, the governments have no hands in transactions.
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August 25, 2018, 04:06:59 PM |
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If everyone in the world gets into crypto and cryptocurrency will become an official global currency, do you think bitcoin then will stop depending on fiat currency? Or will it just co-exist with fiat?
Bitcoin does not depend on fiat. We use it to measure the value of the coin. Here valuation using fiat does not mean it is dependent on fiat. It is totally independent of fiat influence. We just use it as a reference frame to measure the value of the coins. We can also measure it using some other coins too, but does that mean it is dependent on that coin? Nope. And yes, the chances of them co-existing is very high.
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August 25, 2018, 04:13:52 PM |
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I would not call bitcoin paired with fiat as a dependency but rather a manifestation of the value of bitcoin in fiat. As gold and oil have their value in fiat, I see that is the same as bitcoin. You cannot say that bitcoin is fiat-dependent because it continues to produce its own coins without fiat interference. However, the whole economy, along with traders and miners are people who depend on fiat, not bitcoin directly.
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August 25, 2018, 04:17:27 PM |
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If everyone in the world gets into crypto and cryptocurrency will become an official global currency, do you think bitcoin then will stop depending on fiat currency? Or will it just co-exist with fiat?
if it's used globally, volatility should decrease and there is not the reason anymore to be tied to fiat currencies in trading. Perhaps it will be more exchanges for other altcoins
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August 25, 2018, 04:18:05 PM |
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It is possible if the crypto trading stops and bitcoin payments accepted world wide but for now it looks too early many people don't acknowledge the existence of crypto currency and the people who knows it using for making money with its volatility so too early to say that we are independent of fiat money but the time will come and we will use our money with full freedom.
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August 25, 2018, 04:46:43 PM |
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When Bitcoin becomes exclusive and accepted by every nation, it will no longer depend on currency.
But the question will be " Will that ever happen?" One currency ruling the world will have its disadvantages. One, some countries already have a lot of bitcoins users or some countries have big bitcoin users while there are countries that don't have much bitcoin users. Basically some people already have tons of this currency while some have very little or none at all. This is an abnormal distribution of wealth. A regular country might suddenly become a dominant country only because they were the first to adopt bitcoin and the nation was able to accumulate the most bitcoins. And one country might start failing just because they were late to the bitcoin party. Two, there's the digital divide problem. Some countries simply don't have a decent Internet connection. You might be living in a country or in a city where you can get a signal reception everywhere. But there are places in this world that's not uncivilized but the Internet service providers are just so shitty. This limits us from doing transaction. Some people also do not know how to use the computer. Some don't even have a Smartphone. Digital divide has to be solved first before bitcoin can stop depending on fiat currency. Otherwise, fiat will always be there and will always be dominant in some places of the world. The best case scenario will be that bitcoin and fiat are coexisting and will stay the same until digital divide is solved.
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August 25, 2018, 05:30:46 PM |
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Well I don't know for sure if it will stop depending on fiat currencies. If bitcoin is given the opportunity to be independent of its self then it will be globalized and popular than the way it was. The operates of the fiat currency will have no other option than to embrace it.
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August 26, 2018, 04:10:38 PM |
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If everyone in the world gets into crypto and cryptocurrency will become an official global currency, do you think bitcoin then will stop depending on fiat currency? Or will it just co-exist with fiat?
If the world only using bitcoin, i think it will be not safe because bitcoin price is often to fluctuates in the market. But later in the future, maybe everyone start to using cryptocurrency only, fiat currency is not usable. Cryptocurrency has been created in 2009, it is just only almost 10 years. Need more time i think.
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Fiat will remain, and will still be used because it is a national currency. Bitcoin will not replace fiat and I think fiat and bitcoin will still be there according to their respective paths.
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August 27, 2018, 07:56:29 AM |
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Well in theory that could happen if people only used bitcoin or crypto for transactions, but that's likely to never happen, just as the entire world doesn't just use one currency. Also you have to remember people are likely always going to trade it for something else whether it is fiat or another crypto and even fiat currencies are traded against each other and lose or gain value over time due to numerous factors so they will likely always co-exist together.
I agree. Of course there is a possibility but I bet, it will not happen. The ability to use bitcoin is still on the hands of the government though I don’t think bitcoin depends on fiat in the first place. It's not in the hands of government. It's in the hands of the people. If people just started using it instead of fiat it would achieve dominance naturally and maybe people would stop using fiat or use it less and less and then there would be nothing that they could really do about that, unless they try ban it, but under what grounds? They can't ban gift vouchers or people from accepting foreign currency so this would be no different. This could certainly happen in the future, but I see bitcoin working alongside fiat as option rather than taking over completely.
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August 27, 2018, 01:23:25 PM |
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It is impossible because it is the main currency and everyone still depends on it and if possible then also it will take several years.
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August 27, 2018, 01:35:49 PM |
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If everyone in the world gets into crypto and cryptocurrency will become an official global currency, do you think bitcoin then will stop depending on fiat currency? Or will it just co-exist with fiat?
Bitcoin can never stop depending on fiat and that is why I always believe that fiat will continue to exist even with Bitcoin.
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August 27, 2018, 01:51:20 PM |
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If everyone in the world gets into crypto and cryptocurrency will become an official global currency, do you think bitcoin then will stop depending on fiat currency? Or will it just co-exist with fiat?
What will be the means of exchange for bitcoin if there's no fiat for those people that doesn't really like bitcoin. We have to accept the fact that bitcoin and fiat will continue existing at the same prime but who knows, we can't see the future. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 27, 2018, 01:54:10 PM |
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In practice, some persons will always use the fiat. Not everyone will be able to use Cryptocurrency, as we have different classes of humans world all over and some areas and places have technological limitations needed to fast track the transactions of bitcoin.
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August 27, 2018, 01:58:52 PM |
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And who told you that bitcoin depends on Fiat money? He is completely independent of them. Bitcoin is influenced by many other factors, such as the media, which are always screaming that bitcoin is a soap bubble and will soon burst. It has nothing to do with Fiat money.
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