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March 07, 2014, 10:39:42 AM
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Freedom protesters which occupied power in Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq47Mq5kZOA

Oh boy, I would start planing to move in case of worst possibility and this guys gets to real power in the next years - strange times, you never know and don't expect people to vote or do right things, there is to much emotions and manipulations are very easy.


ps: This Right Sector reminds me of Serbian and Croatian national parties which emerged right before collapse of Yugoslavia. Needless to say it ended badly for both nations.

In YU right wings of parties started to form own armies (this is already what happened in Ukraine with Right Sector - don't know about other nations in Ukraine, but http://www.aydinlikdaily.com/M%C4%B0T-and-CIA-Stir-Up-Ukraine-on-EU%E2%80%99s-Behalf-1555 ). Gun is powerful tool to make people that don't agree to comply and what worries me the most is level of hate that become normal and acceptable thing. Since citizens don't have guns, they will seek protection in the wrong places.


pss: Needless to say it ended badly for both nations in YU and Bosnia as collateral. Lets just say cutting of the head of your neighbour and friend, rape his wife and daughter and then burn his house was common thing. This is just a reminder what ethnic violence can do.


That is not valid for every country.
Let's look at Belgium and Netherlands , I don't think that (if we dig up all the history) there is even a small town where the ancestors of one family haven't killed or raped or whatever the ancestors of some neighbor living close by.
Yet people aren't seeking an eye for an eye revenge.

But here in the Balkans things are turning this way because people are trying to find a scapegoat for poverty and many others , and the ones different from you are usually the ones to be blamed.
If the situation in Romania will become worse , you'll see even this country divided into 3 or 4 parts  , a thing that is considered almost impossible right now.

Happy people don't care about race politics or whatever , nor are they ready to start killing peoples.




 


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March 07, 2014, 11:17:38 AM
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Happy people don't care about race politics or whatever , nor are they ready to start killing peoples.

This is true, that's why I have compared Ukraine and Yugoslavia - economical problems, 20 years of stagnation, powerty, emerging nationalism...



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March 07, 2014, 04:17:48 PM
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This is true, that's why I have compared Ukraine and Yugoslavia - economical problems, 20 years of stagnation, powerty, emerging nationalism...

Steeply declining population, emergence of criminal gangs...
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March 07, 2014, 04:45:04 PM
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I really don't know where to come down on this issue - Russia has a bad track record of expansionism and authoritarianism, and invading other countries is probably a bad thing, but on the other hand there is huge support in Crimea for joining Russia (it was only redefined as part of Ukraine when they were both part of the USSR) and the anti-Russian coup in Ukraine was definitely also illegal (making no moral judgements).

I also really don't think it's any of the US's business, especially given their track record of illegal invasions.

Also:

Instead of putting 2 Countries at each others throat why not Putin and Obama go at it 1 Vs. 1

Are you having a laugh? Putin would break Barry like a dry twig.

Is there any way we could get Putin to do that very thing without a real war?

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March 07, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
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Russia takes over us probably
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March 07, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
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Ever seen Red Dawn!!
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March 08, 2014, 08:10:46 AM
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Putin has the right to keep his buffer zone who knows how much more dangerous it would be if it wasn't there
Concerns over national security leading to another arms race type of danger
That and oil security

Of course we may be witnessing a yugoslavia again

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have you guys seen the amount of videos that are related to ww3 that have been removed from youtube ?

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Why ZOG permit Referendum in Crimea for join to Russia?

In the moment of entry Crimean territory to Russian Federation, Jews from USA can claim back 375 000 hectares of Crimean land.
http://www.aif.ru/society/history/6856

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March 09, 2014, 10:23:57 PM
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Ukrainian army on the move: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoDDvOId_vY

The trucks are vintage but they are most powerful and durable vehicles ever built. Everyone must ride in them at least once. And maybe I will be in one of them soon. I found way to enlist as auxiliary volunteer for Ukrainian army!

Russians living in other countries are like trojan horse. But now they are going to get their asses kicked out of Ukraine!

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Ukrainian army on the move: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoDDvOId_vY

The trucks are vintage but they are most powerful and durable vehicles ever built. Everyone must ride in them at least once. And maybe I will be in one of them soon. I found way to enlist as auxiliary volunteer for Ukrainian army!

Russians living in other countries are like trojan horse. But now they are going to get their asses kicked out of Ukraine!

Be aware: war is a bad thing, war cannot do anything good for you or your nation. Also, russian-speaking ukranians are your brothers, only if you stop talking about them as a "russian cancer" and you start calling them "fellow ukranians" your country will be unite.

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"At March 16 we are choosing

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My two cents: I have a feeling that whatever happens during this vote on the 16th, even if it's in Russia's favor they'll fudge the numbers so that it stays part of Ukraine and that'll be Russia's out. Russia gets brownie points for 'calming the situation' and showing the people protesting/revolting that they have no business trying to start a revolution. But it could just as easily go the other way and I'm totally wrong, only time will tell.

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Why ZOG permit Referendum in Crimea for join to Russia?

In the moment of entry Crimean territory to Russian Federation, Jews from USA can claim back 375 000 hectares of Crimean land.
http://www.aif.ru/society/history/6856
That's not a problem, Stalin already said "fuck off" to creditors... Putin is not Stalin but I don't see any reason why this shouldn't happen again.
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Why ZOG permit Referendum in Crimea for join to Russia?

In the moment of entry Crimean territory to Russian Federation, Jews from USA can claim back 375 000 hectares of Crimean land.
http://www.aif.ru/society/history/6856

ZOG?

Gimmee a break!

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The expression is used by antisemitic groups such as white supremacists in the United States[2][3][4][5][6][7] and Europe,[8] ultra-nationalists such as Pamyat in Russia, and various far-right groups, including some in Poland.[9]'

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Eh.

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"The World is ruled by Z.O.G."

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Ich wusste nicht dass es hier solche Mannschaft gibt.  Cheesy
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Ich wusste nicht dass es hier solche Mannschaft gibt.  Cheesy

Seems that there is; those anti-Semitic fools who blame all their problems on the Jews.

Someone tried that once and it didn't work out well as I recall.

My $.02.

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