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well i assume the gasprom will have to forget about the $2bn debt. can call it a good deal for a purchase of peninsula.
Ukraine gets the lowest price ever, all these years, and still struggles to pay for it. How come? I'd say, if they decide to "forget this debt", it's a good enough reason to annihilate current government, with or without full military invasion. If Russia is so bad, why do they suck on it's tit all these years? |
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March 14, 2014, 02:47:27 PM |
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"Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next?" Tomorrow the World? My $.02.  |
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March 14, 2014, 04:19:40 PM |
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"Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next?" Tomorrow the World? My $.02. I think only another neighbouring country. Just hope it won't be mine.  |
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March 14, 2014, 05:00:53 PM |
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"Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next?"
Tomorrow the World?
Maybe other ex-USSR countries? It would be more realistic. |
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March 14, 2014, 05:51:22 PM |
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And my statements:
>1) Azarov's government was formed by democratically elected president (elections were observed and recognized by EU and US). Have you read any history? Puppet governments are typically bought out not placed by force (especially in modern contexts where information travels so fast). >2) Yanukovich is definitely wasn't a puppet. There are a lot of proofs (he sent Gazprom supporter into the jail, for example), you need a proof for opposite statements in order to deny that. Smart puppets hide their strings. >3) Now we have illegitimate and puppet "government" instead, there are a lot of facts proving this statement. Yes there are. 4) There were no protests in the Crimea. And actually, the "anti-maidan" movement was supported by huge part of Crimea citizens. Ya 5) no additional militaries were sent yet.  >6) Now you have check & mate. Is this really how you end your discourses? I wonder how anybody can stomach talking with more than once. >And nothing personal, but I recognize myself as a self-sufficient and public person. That's why I'm able to live without advices from anonymous person. Especially if this person sees the global politics in black & white colors and tries to judge without any attempts to read something about the subject. But thanks, anyway. You should try and learn something from everyone. Being self-sufficient doesn't mean ignore everyone that disagrees with you, after all if we did that we would never grow would we? When I look at my past, even people I had little respect for taught me something. Also, I think you're getting a little mixed up about who sees the world in black and white here mate My advice is to remember, historically speaking, governments are almost always uncovered as the corrupt institutions that they are. If you look up to one as the epitome of good and righteousness you're bound to be disappointing. |
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March 14, 2014, 07:34:59 PM |
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It is perhaps ironic that the US is complaining abouit Russia's military presence in Ukraine even as its own equipment is reportedly operating in the country. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-14/us-drone-intercepted-over-crimea-russian-self-defense-forces |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 14, 2014, 09:53:16 PM |
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March 15, 2014, 03:24:08 PM |
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IMHO Russia is absolute master when it comes to politics and they are constantly focused on expanding the imperium.
Putin comes from KGB - they are trained in killing people and it's obvious that he doesn't care about human life at all.
He can just do what he wants - we don't have ballsy leaders in the west anymore.
Following mistakes were made in this statement: IMHO USA is absolute master when it comes to politics and they are constantly focused on expanding the imperium. Obama comes with soldiers that are trained in killing people and it's obvious that he doesn't care about human life at all. He can just do what he wants - except challenging Russia |
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March 15, 2014, 04:07:13 PM |
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IMHO Russia is absolute master when it comes to politics and they are constantly focused on expanding the imperium.
Putin comes from KGB - they are trained in killing people and it's obvious that he doesn't care about human life at all.
He can just do what he wants - we don't have ballsy leaders in the west anymore.
+1 compare that to obama got a nobel for peace dint invade any country half way of the globe and dint bomb civilians using drones ..... |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 15, 2014, 04:42:24 PM |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26558288Ukraine creates National Guard ahead of Crimea vote so now the nazi got a full time paid job ha!
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Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 15, 2014, 04:50:49 PM |
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Full time, but not paid yet... Because they didn't received a loan for now. |
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Full time, but not paid yet... Because they didn't received a loan for now. they dint discover yet the power of taxation ? |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 15, 2014, 07:06:37 PM |
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We could still have litecoin......
Besides , Bitcoin won't be here forever.
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March 15, 2014, 10:51:34 PM |
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- People, both in Crimea and in the rest of Ukraine, want freedom and hate corruption.
0.1% of population (people on Maidan) vs. the rest 99.9%. Who the hell gives them a right to take down a government and replace it with the Nazi? Are they crazy? Why not use a constitutional court instead of this shit?  - Russia want Crimea (see WWI).
It's already Russian according to Kharkiv Pact. In the case of unilateral withdrawal, initiated by the Ukrainian side (which is a matter of time in case of Nazi government). It seems like they're just came back to collect some debts before that would happen.  Anyway, why not if Crimea people wanted the same. dosen't sound me like the pact say that crimea is russian Kharkiv Pacta is treaty between Ukraine and Russia whereby the Russian lease on naval facilities in Crimea would be extended beyond 2017 by 25 years (to 2042) with an additional 5 year renewal option (to 2047) in exchange for a multiyear discounted contract to provide Ukraine with Russian natural gas I was laughing because you was speaking about laws like they have any real importance in a situation like that. I think they have not.
In case of Kosovo they are... So I suppose that's good for trolling. Anyway, nazi coup shouldn't be allowed to function even if it will result with a war. There were enough victims during 1936-1945. why are you citing kosovo? It's not recognized as a country by half of the world and recognized by the other half, although the international court sentenced that it's declaration of indipendence should be legal. As a result, it was devastated by war and genocides operated by the commuist milosevich, and now it's one of the poorest country of the region. Do you want this destiny for your country? War is bad. I know by some sort of degree (one of my friend is a photograph and go there, see some of his shots, they're amazing) that people in maidan square are not all nazis, most of them are not even politically oriented at all. And they're risking their life. I don't see people in crimea risking their life to stop nazi's abuses. Can you please explain me what kind of abuses or abusive laws are you talking about? - USA don't want Crimea to be russian.
Actually there is a speculation that Yanukovich had a talk with China about selling some Crimean land for $15 billion... That's why all of this happened, I guess. USA and Russia don't want to have a chinese bases here. U cannot "buy" land and put a military base on it. FUD Pls, don't hate me too much. I only think that you are in the middle of a FUD "hate-spreading" propaganda operation operation, and i'm scared your country will face a lot of internal dissent or even war. You the people must ask for peace, the referendum has been claimed illegal by all the world except russia, it won't resolve anything. |
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Well... Only a few hours remaining to voting start Currently there are: - 623 reporters from 169 media companies;
- 135 observers from 23 countries (including Russia, Latvia, Belgium, Poland, United States, Mongolia, China, Serbia, Israel, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece);
- Press center was created on the foundation of local "Crimea" media company office.
Journalists will be able to attend all the voting stations. Source: http://ria.ru/world/20140316/999655034.html#ixzz2w4hwEv57 (in russian) |
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March 15, 2014, 11:20:59 PM |
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Well... Only a few hours remaining to voting start Currently there are: - 623 reporters from 169 media companies;
- 135 observers from 23 countries (including Russia, Latvia, Belgium, Poland, United States, Mongolia, China, Serbia, Israel, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece);
- Press center was created on the foundation of local "Cimeria" media company office.
Journalists will be able to attend all the voting stations. Source: http://ria.ru/world/20140316/999655034.html#ixzz2w4hwEv57 (in russian) Wanna bet on the outcome?I say 96%. |
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