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[Balthazar]

http://rt.com/news/vader-presidential-hopeful-ukraine-885/

http://www.novinite.com/articles/159543/Ukrainian+Darth+Vader's+Presidency+Bid+Rejected

Darth Vader registration is nullified. In addition, a criminal case has been started. Ehh... It was the best candidate.

[Nemo1024]

Russia appraises losses from the sanctions, losses sustained by EU, that is
http://ria.ru/world/20140404/1002584828.html

Short summary:
EU can loose up to 1 trillion Euro because of the sanctions. Germany can lose up to 200 billion €, while the countries hit hardest will be the Baltic countries, where loses will be almost equal to their GBPs. Ironically, Ukraine, whose best interests US seemingly has at heart will also suffer the hardest of the non-EU countries.

[Swordsoffreedom]

That said solving Japans energy problem really is nuclear or a lot more money unless they find offshore oil why they are fighting for the Senkaku/Daiymo islands tiny Atolls etc to extend their geological shelf

Well.. Senkaku is under de facto Japanese occupation. They don't have to worry much, as long as the NATO is supporting them.

True enough although it just extends into the larger argument about China fighting for a lot of islands and stuff think they fight with Taiwan Russia and South Korea as well

[Nemo1024]

Just read this little gem (translated from Russian):

When the West complains about insubordinate behaviour of Russia, I am always reminded of a letter from a German soldier's wife, found on the dead body of a German soldier in 1942: "We are all here in Hamburg deeply angered by stubbornness and unscrupulousness of Russians who still don't agree to stop their stupid and pointless resistance."

 

And an aphorism:
"Western democracy: An absolute power of an absolute minority over an absolute majority. Absolutely."

 

- Timoshenoko: We intend to return Crimea!
- Putin: You've already returned Crimea. Now return the South-East.

 

White House. Early morning. Minister of defence enters the Oval Office.
- Mister President, there are two news items. One good and one bad. Which do you want to hear first?
- Let's start with the bad.
- Alaska joined Russia.
- And the good?
- We successfully managed to ban Medvedev in Twitter...

 

[bryant.coleman]

True enough although it just extends into the larger argument about China fighting for a lot of islands and stuff think they fight with Taiwan Russia and South Korea as well

China has fought with almost all of its neighbors over land. That includes Philippines, Bhutan, India, Nepal, Vietnam.etc.

[Nemo1024]

True enough although it just extends into the larger argument about China fighting for a lot of islands and stuff think they fight with Taiwan Russia and South Korea as well

China has fought with almost all of its neighbors over land. That includes Philippines, Bhutan, India, Nepal, Vietnam.etc.

You forgot Soviet Union in that list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict
It does not mean that you can't have trade and alliance with them later on.
(What most populists forget to bring to the public nowadays, is that alliances shifted many many times even throughout the last 200 years.)

[bryant.coleman]

You forgot Soviet Union in that list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict

Well.. this time the Chinese got their a$$es kicked quite hard. The Chinese were over the moon after their victory in the 1961 Sino-Indian conflict. They thought that their manpower will neutralize the superior Soviet technology. The Soviets were quite patient in the initial few days of the conflict. Then they decided that enough was enough. PLA got blown away in 2 days.

[Balthazar]

Casualties and losses

China: 800 killed[1]
USSR: 59 killed 94 wounded[2]

Oh shi...

As war fever gripped China, Moscow and Beijing took steps to lower the danger of a large-scale conflict. On September 11, 1969, Soviet Prime Minister Alexei Kosygin, on his way back from the funeral of the Vietnamese leader Ho Chi Minh, stopped over in Beijing for talks with his Chinese counterpart, Zhou Enlai. Symbolic of the frosty relations between the two communist countries, the talks were held in Beijing airport. The two premiers agreed to return ambassadors previously recalled and begin border negotiations.

[bryant.coleman]

Casualties and losses
China: 800 killed[1]
USSR: 59 killed 94 wounded[2]

Oh shi...

Well..... the Chinese lost thousands of their soldiers, but the death count was under-reported. A Chinese defector told the Americans that more than 3,000 PLA personnel were killed in two hours of BM-21 Grad multi-barrel rocket (Peaктивныx Cиcтeм Зaлпoвoгo Oгня or MLRS) barrage by the Soviets.

The Soviets initially withdrew from most of the island, after which the Chinese advanced. Once they reached the center portion of the island, they were surrounded on three sides by the Red Army. Colonel-General Oleg Losik ordered the Red Army to use MLRS, and within a few hours the Chinese were exterminated. 

[Balthazar]

Everything seems right but there was no such thing called "Red Army"  The Red Army was renamed into Soviet Army in 1946.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Everything seems right but there was no such thing called "Red Army"  The Red Army was renamed into Soviet Army in 1946.

He-he speaking of that Russia counters the American boycott with its own
Russian President Vladimir Putin turned up the heat on Ukraine on Wednesday by threatening to demand advance payment for gas supplies
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-crisis-vladimir-putin-ups-economic-pressure-1.2604762

[bryant.coleman]

He-he speaking of that Russia counters the American boycott with its own
Russian President Vladimir Putin turned up the heat on Ukraine on Wednesday by threatening to demand advance payment for gas supplies

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-crisis-vladimir-putin-ups-economic-pressure-1.2604762

No more Russian gas for Ukraine. Let them import it from their new allies (USA). Why anyone should further help the notoriously badly managed industries of Ukraine? More cheap gas means more corruption. Lets put an end to this.

[Balthazar]

Junta & oligarchs are trying to work with Obama but asking RF for money. Of course they will receive nothing, no surprise here.

“The situation is - to put it kindly, strange. It’s known our partners in Europe have recognized the legitimacy of the government in Kiev, yet have done nothing to support Ukraine – not even one dollar or one euro,”

“The Russian Federation doesn’t recognize the legitimacy of the authorities in Kiev, but it keeps providing economic support and subsidizing the economy of Ukraine with hundreds of millions and billions of dollars. This situation can’t last indefinitely,”

[PrintMule]

This thread became one big circlejerk

we may as well talk in russian now

[bryant.coleman]

Junta & oligarchs are trying to work with Obama but asking RF for money. Of course they will receive nothing, no surprise here.

Look at the people who have shifted their loyalty to Obama. They include Renat Akhmetov and Gennadiy Kernes, two of the most corrupt men in the Ukraine. Let's see for how long the EU and US will tolerate them.

[Nemo1024]

This thread became one big circlejerk

we may as well talk in russian now

When stuff happens in a Russian-speaking country, you should expect that the most verbal commentators would come from that region. Most here, though, try to translate the information so that it is available to the public. Or do you expect BBC/CNN/Fox "information" only here?

Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) excludes Russia from all international talks and decision-making processes until the end of the year (maybe Russia should ask for it $27 million of contribution to PACE back?):
http://rt.com/news/russia-pace-resolution-boycott-612/
http://www.interfax.ru/world/370805

When asked if criticism from US and other countries has any validity, Pushkov replied, "[it’s odd that] nations that participated in several NATO aggressions, those who bombed a European capital and occupied the sovereign state of Iraq have the right to tell us what to do."

Pushkov also commented on his Twitter page:

The Ukrainian delegation are firing national hatred declaring to PACE that “The Russian people will feed you and then cut you up.” And then applause in the auditorium! This is a sham!

Like these comments:

Hold on a second!!!!
ok... correct me if I am wrong:

Some how I thought EU is about
tolerance
p eace
independenc e
freedom to choose
citizens rights

...s o now they are saying people of Cremea don't have the right to decide what is good for them? EU knows better....
is that hypocracy or am I confused?

Actualy, Russia has no blame at all. The west started this, so it's 70% their fault and 30% the fault of Ukrainians for being stupid and not learning on Serbian example.

The facts are straight : 1) Us and Eu ousted the legitimatly elected president of Ukraine and installed a puppet regime in Kiev thus the Ex Soviet block and Russians especially lost the motherland of their culture. 2)They where forced to mobilize forces to save their naval base and Taurica and are desperatly trying to save the east territories beeing labeled as agressors..
3)Th ey are beeing sanctioned.

How exactly is this winning ? This is more like mitigating loses and being sanctioned for it as well.

US sends its third military ship into Black Sea:
http://ria.ru/world/20140410/1003322464.html

Russia should really start sending its military ships to Cuba. It's been too long since the last time...

[Balthazar]

If I remember right, russian delegation members said that they will resign in the case of exclusion from decision-making processes... So, they are leaving PACE now?

[Nemo1024]

If I remember right, russian delegation members said that they will resign in the case of exclusion from decision-making processes... So, they are leaving PACE now?

Yes, eventually:

Russia’s delegation said before the vote that he could leave the Parliamentary Assembly for the Council of Europe in protest at the decision. However, in a heated media conference following the session, a more relaxed Pushkov stated, “We will take our time. The Russian delegation will meet in a calm atmosphere to make a decision within the next two to three weeks”.

The Russian delegation did not even attend the vote in protest at the motion, which was tabled by Robert Walter, a British member of the assembly.

[bryant.coleman]

If I remember right, russian delegation members said that they will resign in the case of exclusion from decision-making processes... So, they are leaving PACE now?

Who really cares about PACE? If Russia leaves PACE then it will bring more disrepute to the PACE itself than it will bring to Russia. These bodies were supposed to be politically neutral, if I am not wrong. 

[Balthazar]

Actually I think that RF had to leave PACE a long time ago. Membership in this organization creates nothing but problems. It provides only restrictions without any benefits...

A moratorium on the death penalty, for example... Isn't it ridiculous?