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September 03, 2018, 03:18:03 PM |
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hashrate still nothing, however, gaming 2080ti x 1080ti = 35% faster, if 35% is confirmed then is a huge disappointment.
i think if game not support RTX function maybe faster around 10-15%
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September 04, 2018, 01:01:55 AM |
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hashrate still nothing, however, gaming 2080ti x 1080ti = 35% faster, if 35% is confirmed then is a huge disappointment.
i think if game not support RTX function maybe faster around 10-15% A couple leaked reviews claim 30-45% faster with RTX disabled.
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x8664amd (OP)
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September 04, 2018, 02:40:48 AM |
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hashrate still nothing, however, gaming 2080ti x 1080ti = 35% faster, if 35% is confirmed then is a huge disappointment.
i think if game not support RTX function maybe faster around 10-15% A couple leaked reviews claim 30-45% faster with RTX disabled. Why is that the case? It doesn't make sense RTX function would drag down performance.
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greyday
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September 04, 2018, 02:49:59 AM |
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with such a price these video cards are absolutely not interesting for mining, especially against the backdrop of a strong fall in the whole crypto currency market. better to take cards of the past pokrleniya!
It would be cheaper to buy multiple 1080Ti than the 2080ti. Assuming you aren't limited to 2-3 cards. I mean...if you have the space, then not really, because a cheap mobo setup with bunches of pcie slots isn't very expensive in comparison to the price difference if you're buying in bulk. However, since we don't know what these cards will do, it's all speculative at this point. Bulk pricing should be vastly cheaper than buying 1 or 2 cards at a time. Bulk discount should be 10-20%. You guys aren't factoring in the resale value of RTX 20 series. There is a premium because these cards will still be very fresh when you're done mining with them. If you're talking about that level of bulk then you may not be factoring in the electric cost. At a certain point the difference in profit trumps the speed of ROI. (again, speculative of course, since we don't know what the hashrate or draw of the 2080s will be)
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greyday
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September 04, 2018, 02:55:07 AM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier.
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philipma1957
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September 04, 2018, 03:33:59 AM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. I ordered 1x 2080 from amazon for 750 I get billed the day it ships I have 30 days no questions asked to return it. If you are usa based and mine with gpus to not order 1 would be pretty dumb. My thoughts are the 2080 will be good and save power.
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FloppyPurpleGherkin
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September 04, 2018, 09:14:23 PM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. I ordered 1x 2080 from amazon for 750 I get billed the day it ships I have 30 days no questions asked to return it. If you are usa based and mine with gpus to not order 1 would be pretty dumb. My thoughts are the 2080 will be good and save power. I'd love to at that price I'd probably take several, In the UK we get shafted. Your $750 is around £580, The cheapest 2080 on Amazon UK I can find is £800/$1030! Madness I might take a flight over when they're released and buy as many as 2 suitcases will allow, maybe about 40
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September 04, 2018, 10:04:02 PM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. cheapest on newegg is $800 you can buy newrly two 1070ti or two vegas for that
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September 05, 2018, 03:15:22 AM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. cheapest on newegg is $800 you can buy newrly two 1070ti or two vegas for that Prices in the USA are disproportionally cheap. Not fair...
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September 05, 2018, 07:27:48 AM |
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Prices in the USA are disproportionally cheap. Not fair... I think there is no VAT of 20% in the USA so it's cheaper.
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philipma1957
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September 05, 2018, 02:30:47 PM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. cheapest on newegg is $800 you can buy newrly two 1070ti or two vegas for that Prices in the USA are disproportionally cheap. Not fair... Medical bills are insane in the USA IT EVENS OUT.
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HE[A]RTLESS
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September 05, 2018, 06:23:14 PM |
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hashrate still nothing, however, gaming 2080ti x 1080ti = 35% faster, if 35% is confirmed then is a huge disappointment.
i think if game not support RTX function maybe faster around 10-15% A couple leaked reviews claim 30-45% faster with RTX disabled. i watch in this video some game is same-same some game like BF1 maybe support rtx it faster 11fps farcry 5 18fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B3B3QVOJH8
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September 05, 2018, 11:45:42 PM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. I ordered 1x 2080 from amazon for 750 I get billed the day it ships I have 30 days no questions asked to return it. If you are usa based and mine with gpus to not order 1 would be pretty dumb. My thoughts are the 2080 will be good and save power. I'd love to at that price I'd probably take several, In the UK we get shafted. Your $750 is around £580, The cheapest 2080 on Amazon UK I can find is £800/$1030! Madness I might take a flight over when they're released and buy as many as 2 suitcases will allow, maybe about 40 Just wait until Brexit kicks in! It'll be £2-3K easy... Do you have anyone you trust in the states? If so get them to buy them here and ship them there (or try ordering from amazon.com, I can usually buy things from Amazon.uk and just pay the extra for shipping).
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September 05, 2018, 11:47:42 PM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. cheapest on newegg is $800 you can buy newrly two 1070ti or two vegas for that You can buy lots of things for $800, that doesn't really have anything to do with FPGA vs GPU pre-orders.
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September 06, 2018, 12:57:56 AM |
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It's speculative at this point.
I'd refrain from jumping to conclusions until actual measurements start coming out. Even after initial benchmarks, drivers and mining software could be better-optimized.
I'm not expecting a giant leap in mining performance either (certainly not enough to gamble on a pre-order), but I'm curious to see actual results.
yeah idk what the rush is, same with the ppl who all felt the need to jump on the fpga bandwagon early instead of waiting till products were actually shipping. I guess we never learn in this space lol To be fair, pre-ordering a gpu with a relatively reliable resale and a warranty is a bit different than plonking down 3-5x the amount on a permanently custom modded, community supported piece of tech. Not saying there are no pros to the latter, of course, but pre-ordering something from Newegg is totally comfortable for me, whereas giving $4k to a stranger in untraceable currency is...well, riskier. cheapest on newegg is $800 you can buy newrly two 1070ti or two vegas for that Prices in the USA are disproportionally cheap. Not fair... Medical bills are insane in the USA IT EVENS OUT. Haha you caught a cold and need to stay a night at the hospital? Sorry bro, that's going to cost you dozens of RTX 2080 graphics cards.
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September 07, 2018, 05:46:06 AM |
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My thoughts are the 2080 will be good and save power.
I'd estimate it won't match the performance of the 1080 ti on mining - probably more efficient than the 10xx series due to the newer process they're made on, but for the cost it would probably take YEARS for the efficiency to pay off.
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September 10, 2018, 03:48:52 PM |
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My thoughts are the 2080 will be good and save power.
I'd estimate it won't match the performance of the 1080 ti on mining - probably more efficient than the 10xx series due to the newer process they're made on, but for the cost it would probably take YEARS for the efficiency to pay off. im heard news about ETH mining 2070 - 40MH , 2080 - 40MH , 2080ti - 65MH
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September 10, 2018, 06:24:50 PM |
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hashrate still nothing, however, gaming 2080ti x 1080ti = 35% faster, if 35% is confirmed then is a huge disappointment.
RTX 2080 might be the sweet spot for mining. Who need Gigarays anyway? Plus if someone could utilize the Tensor Cores and GDDR6 memory for mining, there would be a huge leap in mining performance versus it's old architecture.
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September 10, 2018, 06:28:29 PM |
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Tensor cores are FLOATING POINT - 100% useless to mining.
GDDR6 is a given, since that's the RAM - the question is "will it out-perform GDDR5 or will it be more like GDDR 5x for mining" there.
Given the PRICING on all of the 20xx cards announced to date though, I don't see any of them being GREAT performers on a cost/benefit basis vs the 10xx series - and so far it's looking like they might not MATCH the 10xx series for cost/performance.
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September 11, 2018, 02:03:54 AM |
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Tensor cores can be used in certain mining algorithms with matrix multiply operations: Tensority and Groestl for example. See a previous post for details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4948083.msg44769341#msg447693412) Tensor core FP16 multiply with FP32 accumulate. FP16 allows for 8-bit integer input values to be stored with no loss in precision, FP32 accumulate allows for 16-bit integer result from 8-bit multiply to be stored with no loss in precision.
3) Tensor core INT8 mode (new in Turing, absent from Volta). If accumulate is in INT16 (likely as this is a matrix multiply operation with 8-bit inputs, should be verifiable once CUDA 10 SDK is available) this would then allow for use of this mode in this algorithm. Throughput would be twice that of FP16 multiply with FP32 accumulate from #2.
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