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July 18, 2019, 06:36:26 PM
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I'm not sure how an offline cloud service would work: if it's offline, you can't store data.

I think he meant cloud storage which store the data off-site / use off-site storage (the data stored on server which isn't connected to internet physically). But waiting the data stored on off-site storage & vice-versa took some time.

Can't remember if there are any cloud storage service which offer off-site storage though.

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What if I store my privkeys and all these wallets over CLOUD services?

cloud services can never be an option and here is the problem, when you store your private keys on a cloud server you need to encrypt it first. and we are talking about a strong encryption which means you now have to create a backup of that strong (long and random with symbols,...) password so we are back at square one of you looking for a way to store something!
not to mention you now have to also create a backup of the login details of that cloud service somewhere. you can't just click save password in your browser or write it in a text file stored on your hard disk. and this password has to be equally strong.
and finally you should think about the risk of them closing your account for whatever reason. you will have no control over that.

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October 07, 2019, 10:51:20 PM
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Just because I had this happen.

When restoring from very old core wallets (wallet.dat) keep in mind that you might have to use the same OS (Linux / Win / Mac) as the original file.
Not sure why, but I could not import a 0.7.1 wallet.dat from a Linux box into a Windows one. Gave a corrupt error and shutdown.

Popped the file into a CentOs like it was originally on and no issues.
Moved the updated wallet.dat back to the Windows machine and all was good. So it was something with the older version of the wallet.dat from a foreign OS

Did a 2nd time to verify that I was just not being stupid and the same thing happened.

Should probably spend some time doing some other checks but I'm a slacker not that motivated  Grin

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Just because I had this happen.

When restoring from very old core wallets (wallet.dat) keep in mind that you might have to use the same OS (Linux / Win / Mac) as the original file.
Not sure why, but I could not import a 0.7.1 wallet.dat from a Linux box into a Windows one. Gave a corrupt error and shutdown.

Popped the file into a CentOs like it was originally on and no issues.
Moved the updated wallet.dat back to the Windows machine and all was good. So it was something with the older version of the wallet.dat from a foreign OS
I can't think why there would be a reason for this to be happening, because as far as I know the current Bitcoin Core versions should be fully backward compatible with older versions, and the wallet.dat doesn't hold any information on what OS was used during creation. However, alternatively you could have imported the private key instead of running the original OS that the wallet was created on, unless you haven't backed up your private key. There's the other option of importing your seed which was generated at the creation of the wallet too. AFAIK, there should not be any problems with importing older wallet.dat files into newer operating systems even if they're different.

Personally, I don't rely on the wallet.dat file, and have backups of my private keys which I took care in making sure they never touched a electronic device, and aren't stored in plain text. Although, I still have hot wallets like anyone else, but the majority of my Bitcoin is stored via these offline generated private keys.

I believe a certain version of Electrum abandoned backwards compatibility a few years ago, but I'm not sure if I'm recalling that correctly, and even then I don't think Bitcoin Core in its history has rejected backward compatibility. Of course, even if older software isn't backward compt

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Last edit: October 08, 2019, 02:10:32 AM by DaveF
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Just because I had this happen.

When restoring from very old core wallets (wallet.dat) keep in mind that you might have to use the same OS (Linux / Win / Mac) as the original file.
Not sure why, but I could not import a 0.7.1 wallet.dat from a Linux box into a Windows one. Gave a corrupt error and shutdown.

Popped the file into a CentOs like it was originally on and no issues.
Moved the updated wallet.dat back to the Windows machine and all was good. So it was something with the older version of the wallet.dat from a foreign OS
I can't think why there would be a reason for this to be happening, because as far as I know the current Bitcoin Core versions should be fully backward compatible with older versions, and the wallet.dat doesn't hold any information on what OS was used during creation. However, alternatively you could have imported the private key instead of running the original OS that the wallet was created on, unless you haven't backed up your private key. There's the other option of importing your seed which was generated at the creation of the wallet too. AFAIK, there should not be any problems with importing older wallet.dat files into newer operating systems even if they're different.

Personally, I don't rely on the wallet.dat file, and have backups of my private keys which I took care in making sure they never touched a electronic device, and aren't stored in plain text. Although, I still have hot wallets like anyone else, but the majority of my Bitcoin is stored via these offline generated private keys.

I believe a certain version of Electrum abandoned backwards compatibility a few years ago, but I'm not sure if I'm recalling that correctly, and even then I don't think Bitcoin Core in its history has rejected backward compatibility. Of course, even if older software isn't backward compt

I know it should not matter, but it did.

And the only reason I even thought about going back to the Linux box was there was a post someplace (here / reddit / somewhere) with somebody having the same issue that I saw a long time ago. So there were at least 2 people with the issue before this. The one who had it and the one who told him the solution. So, since also happened to me, I figured it was worth a mention.

The only thing I can come up with, and this is a stretch, is that there was a very minor difference with some versions of the DB, depending on the OS and how you compiled it.
But that is really pulling something out of the air and grasping for a reason.

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January 08, 2020, 12:41:37 AM
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Hi All

I just wanted some help form anyone i am not sure the balance of my private key but that is not the main issue....

The main issues are as follows
1) i have a private key which begins with K and is 49 Characters long base58
2) i have a private key which begins with K and is 54 Characters long base58

I am not sure how to resolve this and kind the actual private key i have even wrote BTC address down wrong...

Could someone kindly help as i could use the BTC's right now!!!!!
PS: If i use the the script on here and use this in github https://pastebin.com/S8WARrRn? will it work or do i have to use it on pastebin to run the script ?
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January 08, 2020, 05:36:45 AM
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1) i have a private key which begins with K and is 49 Characters long base58
2) i have a private key which begins with K and is 54 Characters long base58
PS: If i use the the script on here and use this in github https://pastebin.com/S8WARrRn? will it work or do i have to use it on pastebin to run the script ?

no it won't work because it is hard-coded for a special case and none of the settings match your issue.
- only has a fixed number of missing characters: 5
- is an uncompressed private key (starting with 5)
- you know the location of missing characters

your private keys are compressed that start with K and their length should have been 52. and you don't seem to know the location of the missing characters.
now are you sure what you have are actually private keys? how did you lose the rest of the characters? for example if it is from the end then recovering it is going to be trivial as it would take a fraction of a second.

p.s. if my calculation is right you have to check 22.94 billion keys if you miss 3 characters and don't know their location.

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Could someone kindly help as i could use the BTC's right now!!!!!
PS: If i use the the script on here and use this in github https://pastebin.com/S8WARrRn? will it work or do i have to use it on pastebin to run the script ?
Many Thanks
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Interestingly, something similar tools for private key recovery is available under PYTHON_27, maybe on Github ?
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1) i have a private key which begins with K and is 49 Characters long base58
2) i have a private key which begins with K and is 54 Characters long base58
PS: If i use the the script on here and use this in github https://pastebin.com/S8WARrRn? will it work or do i have to use it on pastebin to run the script ?

no it won't work because it is hard-coded for a special case and none of the settings match your issue.
- only has a fixed number of missing characters: 5
- is an uncompressed private key (starting with 5)
- you know the location of missing characters

your private keys are compressed that start with K and their length should have been 52. and you don't seem to know the location of the missing characters.
now are you sure what you have are actually private keys? how did you lose the rest of the characters? for example if it is from the end then recovering it is going to be trivial as it would take a fraction of a second.

p.s. if my calculation is right you have to check 22.94 billion keys if you miss 3 characters and don't know their location.

Thanks is there a tool i can use to recover ? as i must have missed a few characters off or could someone help me via private message  as i do not want to disclose it on here !!

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Thanks is there a tool i can use to recover ? as i must have missed a few characters off or could someone help me via private message  as i do not want to disclose it on here !!
Just another warning: you shouldn't disclose your private key through PM either!
You could make an exception if you really trust the person and your balance isn't high, but as always: stay vigilant.

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Thanks is there a tool i can use to recover ? as i must have missed a few characters off or could someone help me via private message  as i do not want to disclose it on here !!

You could use The FinderOuter. Compile it from source code or download the released version, run it offline. The program only has 2 options for now and you need the second option ("Missing Base58"). I believe the rest is self explanatory.
It should take a second to find the right key(s) with 3 missing characters.

Disclaimer: I am the developer of The FinderOuter. The project is brand new and in beta, I'll try to add new features (eg. not knowing the missing character locations) to it soon.

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Thanks is there a tool i can use to recover ? as i must have missed a few characters off or could someone help me via private message  as i do not want to disclose it on here !!

You could use The FinderOuter. Compile it from source code or download the released version, run it offline. The program only has 2 options for now and you need the second option ("Missing Base58"). I believe the rest is self explanatory.
It should take a second to find the right key(s) with 3 missing characters.

Disclaimer: I am the developer of The FinderOuter. The project is brand new and in beta, I'll try to add new features (eg. not knowing the missing character locations) to it soon.

Where can I download your software ( The FinderOuter ) for testing?
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Thanks is there a tool i can use to recover ? as i must have missed a few characters off or could someone help me via private message  as i do not want to disclose it on here !!

You could use The FinderOuter. Compile it from source code or download the released version, run it offline. The program only has 2 options for now and you need the second option ("Missing Base58"). I believe the rest is self explanatory.
It should take a second to find the right key(s) with 3 missing characters.

Disclaimer: I am the developer of The FinderOuter. The project is brand new and in beta, I'll try to add new features (eg. not knowing the missing character locations) to it soon.

Where can I download your software ( The FinderOuter ) for testing?

https://github.com/Coding-Enthusiast/FinderOuter/releases

He already share link which leads to the download page though

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Hi All

in the following script where do input the private key with the missing characters? is it <param name="pubKey">Bitcoin Public Key</param>?

Using System;
using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Numerics;
using System.Security.Cryptography;
using System.Text;


namespace CommonLibrary
{
    /// <summary>
    /// https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Technical_background_of_version_1_Bitcoin_addresses
    /// </summary>
    public class BitcoinConversions
    {
        /// <summary>
        /// Satohi is the smallest amount of bitcoin, 10^-8
        /// </summary>
        public const decimal Satoshi = 0.00000001m;


        /// <summary>
        /// Characters used in Base58Encoding which is all chars excluding "0OIl"
        /// </summary>
        private const string Base58Chars = "123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz";




        /// <summary>
        /// Converts a hex string to intiger.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="hex">hex value to convert.</param>
        /// <returns></returns>
        //public static UInt32 HexToInt(string hex)
        //{
        //    byte[] ba = HexToByteArray(hex);
        //    if (!BitConverter.IsLittleEndian)
        //    {
        //        ba = ba.Reverse().ToArray();
        //    }
        //    // Prevent out of range exception by adding zeros.
        //    if (ba.Length < 4)
        //    {
        //        ba = ba.Concat(new byte[4 - ba.Length]).ToArray();
        //    }
        //    return BitConverter.ToUInt32(ba, 0);
        //}




        /// <summary>
        /// Converts a hex string to bye array.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="hex">hex to convert.</param>
        /// <returns>byte array of hex</returns>
        public static byte[] HexToByteArray(string hex)
        {
            int NumberChars = hex.Length;
            byte[] bytes = new byte[NumberChars / 2];
            for (int i = 0; i < NumberChars; i += 2)
                bytes[i / 2] = Convert.ToByte(hex.Substring(i, 2), 16);
            return bytes;
        }


        /// <summary>
        /// Converts a byte array to hex string.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="b">byte array to convert.</param>
        /// <returns></returns>
        public static string ByteArrayToHex(byte[] b)
        {
            StringBuilder result = new StringBuilder();
            for (int i = 0; i < b.Length; i++)
            {
                result.Append(b.ToString("x2"));
            }
            return result.ToString();
        }




        /// <summary>
        /// Converts the Hash160 (RIPEMD-160) to Base58 encoded string.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="data">Hash160 string value.</param>
        /// <returns>Base58 Encoded result.</returns>
        public static string Base58ToHash160(string data)
        {
            // Decode Base58 string to BigInteger
            BigInteger intData = 0;
            for (var i = 0; i < data.Length; i++)
            {
                intData = intData * 58 + Base58Chars.IndexOf(data);
            }


            // Encode BigInteger to byte[]
            // Leading zero bytes get encoded as leading `1` characters
            var bData = intData.ToByteArray();
            if (BitConverter.IsLittleEndian)
            {
                bData = bData.Reverse().ToArray();
            }
            bData = bData.SkipWhile(b => b == 0).ToArray();
            var hash160 = BitConverter.ToString(bData).Replace("-", "").ToLower();
            // Remove checksum (4 bytes = 8 last chars)
            return hash160.Remove(hash160.Length - Cool;
        }




        /// <summary>
        /// Computes the hash value of the specified byte array.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="b">byte array to compute hash of.</param>
        /// <returns></returns>
        private static byte[] DoubleShaByte(byte[] b)
        {
            using (SHA256 sha = new SHA256Managed())
            {
                byte[] hash1 = sha.ComputeHash(b);
                byte[] hash2 = sha.ComputeHash(hash1);


                return hash2;
            }
        }


        /// <summary>
        /// Returns Transaction Id for the given Raw Transaction hex.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="txHex">Raw Transaction hex.</param>
        /// <returns>Transaction Id</returns>
        public static string GetTxId(string txHex)
        {
            byte[] ba = HexToByteArray(txHex);
            byte[] sha2x = DoubleShaByte(ba);


            return ByteArrayToHex(sha2x.Reverse().ToArray());
        }




        /// <summary>
        /// Converts Public Key to Hash160 (RIPEMD-160)
        /// <para/>A.K.A. payload
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="pubKey">Bitcoin Public Key</param>
        /// <returns>hash160 (RIPEMD-160)</returns>
        public static byte[] PubKeyToHash160(string pubKey)
        {
            using (SHA256 sha = new SHA256Managed())
            {
                byte[] pubKeyBytes = HexToByteArray(pubKey);


                // 2. Perform Sha256 hashing on public key
                byte[] hash1 = sha.ComputeHash(pubKeyBytes);


                // 3. Perform RIPEMD-160 hashing on step 2
                using (RIPEMD160 r160 = new RIPEMD160Managed())
                {
                    byte[] hash2 = r160.ComputeHash(hash1);


                    return hash2;
                }
            }
        }


        /// <summary>
        /// Converts Hash160 (RIPEMD-160) to Base58 bitcoin Address.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="hash160">Hash160 (RIPEMD-160) bytes</param>
        /// <returns>Base58 encoded bytes</returns>
        public static string Hash160ToBase58(byte[] hash160)
        {
            // 4. Add version byte in front of RIPEMD-160 hash (0x00 for Main Network)
            byte[] ver = { 0x00 };
            byte[] hash160Extended = ver.Concat(hash160).ToArray();


            // 5&6. Perform SHA-256 hash on the extended RIPEMD-160 result x2
            byte[] sha2x = DoubleShaByte(hash160Extended);


            // 7. The first 4 bytes are address checksum
            byte[] checkSumByte = new byte[4];
            checkSumByte[0] = sha2x[0];
            checkSumByte[1] = sha2x[1];
            checkSumByte[2] = sha2x[2];
            checkSumByte[3] = sha2x[3];


            // 8. 25-byte binary Bitcoin Address = RIPEMD-160 extended + Checksum
            byte[] hash160WithCheckSum = hash160Extended.Concat(checkSumByte).ToArray();


            return Hash160WithCheckSumToBase58(hash160WithCheckSum);
        }
        public static string Hash160ToBase58(string hash160)
        {
            byte[] hash160Bytes = HexToByteArray(hash160);
            return Hash160ToBase58(hash160Bytes);
        }


        /// <summary>
        /// Converts hash to Base58 Encoded string.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="hash">1-byte_version + hash_or_other_data + 4-byte_check_code</param>
        /// <returns>Base58 encoded result</returns>
        public static string Hash160WithCheckSumToBase58(byte[] hash)
        {
            // Decode byte[] to BigInteger
            BigInteger intData = hash.Aggregate<byte, BigInteger>(0, (current, t) => current * 256 + t);


            // Encode BigInteger to Base58 string
            StringBuilder result = new StringBuilder();
            while (intData > 0)
            {
                var remainder = (int)(intData % 58);
                intData /= 58;
                result.Insert(0, Base58Chars[remainder]);
            }


            // Append '1' for each leading 0 byte
            for (var i = 0; i < hash.Length && hash == 0; i++)
            {
                result.Insert(0, '1');
            }


            return result.ToString();
        }
        public static string Hash160WithCheckSumToBase58(string hash)
        {
            byte[] hashByte = HexToByteArray(hash);
            return Hash160WithCheckSumToBase58(hashByte);
        }


        /// <summary>
        /// Converts Public Key to Base58 encoded Bitcoin Address.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="pubKey">Bitcoin Public Key.</param>
        /// <returns>Base58 encoded Bitcoin Address.</returns>
        public static string PubKeyToBase58(string pubKey)
        {
            byte[] hash160 = PubKeyToHash160(pubKey);


            string base58 = Hash160ToBase58(hash160);


            return base58;
        }
    }
}

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February 03, 2020, 03:28:37 AM
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Hi All

in the following script where do input the private key with the missing characters? is it <param name="pubKey">Bitcoin Public Key</param>?

That is not a script, it is an old helper class to be used in different places within the program (from one of my old projects). It doesn't have any option to accept any "private" keys.
If you want to know how things are done you have to check the link I previously posted to the project called the FinderOuter.
For quick reference the entry point is here where "key" is the base58 encoded private key string containing missing characters that are replaced by a character defined by the missingChar char.
Initialize() method converts what it can from the given string to base-256 and sets the missing indexes. Then depending on key type (compressed or uncompressed) a LoopComp() or LoopUncomp() is called where different base-58 characters are placed in missing indexes and they are checked against the checksum. The rest are SHA-256 details.

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February 09, 2020, 08:27:38 PM
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in the following script where do input the private key with the missing characters? is it <param name="pubKey">Bitcoin Public Key</param>?

That is not a script, it is an old helper class to be used in different places within the program (from one of my old projects). It doesn't have any option to accept any "private" keys.
If you want to know how things are done you have to check the link I previously posted to the project called the FinderOuter.
For quick reference the entry point is here where "key" is the base58 encoded private key string containing missing characters that are replaced by a character defined by the missingChar char.
Initialize() method converts what it can from the given string to base-256 and sets the missing indexes. Then depending on key type (compressed or uncompressed) a LoopComp() or LoopUncomp() is called where different base-58 characters are placed in missing indexes and they are checked against the checksum. The rest are SHA-256 details.

hi In the link you have provided where do input the private key with the missing characters?

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February 10, 2020, 06:46:57 AM
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hi In the link you have provided where do input the private key with the missing characters?
https://github.com/Coding-Enthusiast/FinderOuter/blob/85d5fdaa8d931bc8709c6e5058704ca0fca94ab4/Src/FinderOuter/Services/Base58Sevice.cs#L338

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February 12, 2020, 11:14:24 PM
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Hi Can you tell me exactly where do i input the private key with missing characters?

As right now all i am getting a return of "faee560d9"  ( i am only providing part of it this is only the beginning)?  this is after i had some code already written. for base 58 missing characters.

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February 13, 2020, 06:55:05 PM
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Hi Can you tell me exactly where do i input the private key with missing characters?
I haven't tried the software myself, but based on The FinderOuter (initial release 2020-01-01), you can just enter the private key in the GUI:

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Hi can tell me how to use the software on a macbook or send me the exact link.

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