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August 31, 2018, 05:27:25 PM
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Well ofcourse everything is fine other than morons statements like Lauda, Pharmacist and ibminer
Translation: everything is fine except for the things that say I'm untrustworthy. Don't pay attention to those.
Your explanation for refuting the very first trusted piece of feedback was also so utterly lackluster. Without any evidence, your storytelling is just superfluous.

How about an overhaul to the trust system?
Yes, but not what you proposed. Anything that involves moderators will always be turned down since "they have too much work" though there's an absence of active mods.

Something like this would be good. But I would change a little: If you receive one negative feedback (from a DT member, obviously) you will have an orange mark (automatically); then to turn the mark red, the DT member will have to find another DT members to corroborate his feedback.
This is good. Do this. It's already like this for positive-trust members (??? -> -1)

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August 31, 2018, 06:23:21 PM
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The trust system is not perfect but it is the only form of moderation we have against the scammers since the scam is not moderated by the moderators of the forum.
I can agree that it is not perfect but atleast it is useful in part and solves some problems for some users because you can quickly get feedback on a person through a simple click.

For example you have -8 -3+0, a good reason to put you on my ignore list.

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August 31, 2018, 08:11:35 PM
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Something like this would be good. But I would change a little: If you receive one negative feedback (from a DT member, obviously) you will have an orange mark (automatically); then to turn the mark red, the DT member will have to find another DT members to corroborate his feedback. It avoids persecution and situations like that where one person has enough power to destroy someone's reputation totally (what is the maxim of the centralization), generating controversies and inconsistencies.

And of course, a difference between the trust traders receive for making deals and trust people receive for being admired by others. This is a good point to think about...


Although until now there is no difference of the trust, you can always look up to their trust page and see the reference of the trust. It would give you a glimpse of how they gain the trust.

Indeed, however for some people a red is a red and a green is a green, doesn't matter the references, they rely blindly on what the official trust system shows them. This change would turn the system just a little more "didactic", what I think it's valid.

But for those who have their own judgement/opinion about the different presented situations it wouldn't make any difference.

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September 01, 2018, 05:10:47 AM
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The trust system is not perfect but it is the only form of moderation we have against the scammers since the scam is not moderated by the moderators of the forum.
I can agree that it is not perfect but atleast it is useful in part and solves some problems for some users because you can quickly get feedback on a person through a simple click.

For example you have -8 -3+0, a good reason to put you on my ignore list.

If you think like that you are likely to be the next guy on my morons list . Mark my words : Trust is a myth . Anyone can back stab you at any moment when that person feels it is good . You have missed my thread , I have handled thousands of dollars and delivered to people asking for "TIME" effective service scamming not a single person . I do not need to prove it , good people watch it on daily basis .

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If you think it is so then the "archive" stuff is also false as I was also storytelling there . This forum needs better system first .

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September 01, 2018, 01:02:37 PM
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If you think it is so then the "archive" stuff is also false as I was also storytelling there . This forum needs better system first .

I agree forums needs a better way (maybe for conflict of interest) but how can you tell the archive stuffs are a lie?
I can see this on your profile: https://archive.is/wUeEd#55%
And if I go there I can read this message, how can be a lie?
Did I missing something?


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September 01, 2018, 01:22:38 PM
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Well I am not reporting anything and it is just a discussion . You are unable to understand that this is not the only case , there may be thousands like mine . Every system has flaws but this system is very ill featured giving no chance to red guys . Every single person on this earth deserves a chance .

So why the hell you bring up the discussion now? not at the time you got scammed? Because obviously you will have a lot of evidence when it is fresh and new and it would backed up all of your statement here even it is only a discussion.

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If you think like that you are likely to be the next guy on my morons list . Mark my words : Trust is a myth . Anyone can back stab you at any moment when that person feels it is good . You have missed my thread , I have handled thousands of dollars and delivered to people asking for "TIME" effective service scamming not a single person . I do not need to prove it , good people watch it on daily basis .

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If you think it is so then the "archive" stuff is also false as I was also storytelling there . This forum needs better system first .

Good saying that "trust is a myth" by someone who just got scammed because he trust the "trust system" which is contradictive right?

I know that consumer is a king in a business, but a business needs a ground rule, especially on payment system. I never heard an obese man who always eat at McD regularly can pay their meal in the end of the month because the policy is clear, you pay you eat no matter who you are. The trust system indeed need a fix, but in your scam case (which i dont believe at all) you are against your own "trust is a myth" word and you clearly do not have a payment policy for your customer, so you can not blame the trust system all alone.

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September 01, 2018, 04:49:17 PM
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If you think it is so then the "archive" stuff is also false as I was also storytelling there . This forum needs better system first .

I agree forums needs a better way (maybe for conflict of interest) but how can you tell the archive stuffs are a lie?
I can see this on your profile: https://archive.is/wUeEd#55%
And if I go there I can read this message, how can be a lie?
Did I missing something?

https://puu.sh/BnW2z/ab4d1afc72.png

Yep you missed the trust rating I gave to that person . I wanted to nab him and he actually exposed himself . His account was banned my moderator himself . If I had 30 or 50 accounts it is COMMON SENSE that I were not so sad about this account only .


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4632723.0

http://archive.is/bd8Zv
http://archive.is/LOdFT

If you understand why OP of THIS thread was given 5 merits, please let me know !

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September 14, 2018, 12:38:27 PM
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i think after quite a while the mods can forgive me my once confussion and remove the distrust from my account,

we arent born with perfect information awareness.

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September 14, 2018, 04:25:53 PM
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i think after quite a while the mods can forgive me my once confussion and remove the distrust from my account,

we arent born with perfect information awareness.

Lauda and The Pharmacist are not mods.

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September 14, 2018, 07:03:08 PM
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i think after quite a while the mods can forgive me my once confussion and remove the distrust from my account,

we arent born with perfect information awareness.

No, but we should learn basic respect for others.  :/

I would be against any change in your account, just based on your immaturity. 

I'm into creating universes, smiting people, writing holy books and listening to Prayer Messages (PMs).
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