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March 05, 2014, 06:12:25 PM
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There are now 1 020 000 millionaires in China  Wink


Still does not make any sense.

Number of millionaires by country

1     United States            5,231,000
2     Japan                    2,105,000
3     Germany            1,326,000
4     China                    1,280,000
5     United Kingdom    675,000
6     France                    555,000
7     Canada               422,000
8     Switzerland            297,000
9     Australia               275,000
10     Italy                    259,000
11     India                  251,000
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March 05, 2014, 06:16:22 PM
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Good'ol china. Just keep riding those waves  Cool
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March 05, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
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Huobi's volume is misleading.

Partially it is caused by low fees, but mainly it is due to fake volume manipulation.

Just look huobi's webstats, they are ridiculously low. I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if their true volume was lower than BTCChina.



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March 05, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
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According to
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h

China has 71% of the volume for the last 24 hours

huobi is responsible for 67% and btcchina for 4%

Well huobi volume of 327,309 BTC for the last 24 hours seems way too big to be trusted?

What's the deal this time?

As per usual China is driving the market value up and also making money from cross trading!




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March 05, 2014, 07:34:26 PM
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An intresting thread regarding this matter:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338849.0

I have no doubt that the volume is absolutely fake.
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March 06, 2014, 11:45:36 AM
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China has biggest population so kinda makes sense?

No, does not make sense. Their economy is very small compared to i.e. the USA.

GDP per capta of USA is USD$51,704 in 2012. Total of $16,244,600 ( trillions ).

European Union is USD$32,999 for the same year. Total of $16.584,000 .
 
China is only USD$9,055. Total of $8,358,400.


Considering also cultural matters, i just don't belive the chinese volume is real.


GDP per capita might be smaller but it's still the second biggest economy
Also you are comparing country to the whole European Union.
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March 06, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
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There are now 1 020 000 millionaires in China  Wink
Still does not make any sense.
Number of millionaires by country
1     United States            5,231,000
2     Japan                    2,105,000
3     Germany            1,326,000
4     China                    1,280,000
5     United Kingdom    675,000
6     France                    555,000
7     Canada               422,000
8     Switzerland            297,000
9     Australia               275,000
10     Italy                    259,000
11     India                  251,000
Regarding these stats :
Number of French millionaires is going to zero. With the current government, 75% of what you earn over 1 million revenue per year is taken by the state.
French millionaire are exiling to UK and Switzerland. There are 400K French just in London.
Since the official position of UK regarding tax of Bitcoin, a lot of French Bitcoinners are thinking about moving to UK.


Concerning China, the volume could be real because exchanges are exempt from fees. It is mostly bots that are trading but a volume is a volume, deal with it.

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March 06, 2014, 09:02:28 PM
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China has biggest population so kinda makes sense?

No, does not make sense. Their economy is very small compared to i.e. the USA.

GDP per capta of USA is USD$51,704 in 2012. Total of $16,244,600 ( trillions ).

European Union is USD$32,999 for the same year. Total of $16.584,000 .
 
China is only USD$9,055. Total of $8,358,400.


Considering also cultural matters, i just don't belive the chinese volume is real.


GDP per capita might be smaller but it's still the second biggest economy
Also you are comparing country to the whole European Union.

A country that has a population bigger than the whole European union.
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March 07, 2014, 08:05:11 AM
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yes that's true, but still doesn't make the comparison fair


however, China is the second biggest economy
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March 07, 2014, 08:18:44 AM
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No need to doubt because many Chinese like to gamble. Wonder which casino sees the most revenue? Not Las Vegas anymore, but Macao, with flocks of Chinese.
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March 07, 2014, 11:15:12 AM
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China has weird currency. It is control by government in a weird way, I'm not sure if it still like it was when i was reading article in Scientific American about it. In general they currency is controlled in such way prices stay same and we all know it is artificial as hell. Post-soviet countries had same problem with currency controlling so hard to pretend there are no inflation, even though there always is.

On other hand I hear all the time China move closer to free market, moving from Marx to Confucian  way of doing business. Maybe there were any changes but i still guess any other currency, especially one you can use all over the world and is not accepted as official currency, so smaller control from government, might be very nice for them.

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March 07, 2014, 12:29:27 PM
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According to
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h

China has 71% of the volume for the last 24 hours

huobi is responsible for 67% and btcchina for 4%

Well huobi volume of 327,309 BTC for the last 24 hours seems way too big to be trusted?

What's the dhttp://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/p2ptradex-revisted/eal this time?

The deal is you are failing to understand bitcoin doesn't care about nationality.  Do we talk about how Japan used to dominate bitcoin trade?  No.  Huobi has low fees and is open to anyone on the internet.  Don't be surprised if they have large volume. 
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March 07, 2014, 12:46:56 PM
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china inflated their currency by 20% just recently...
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March 07, 2014, 01:22:22 PM
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china inflated their currency by 20% just recently...

Most currencies have close to that level of inflation too by the way.
And i'm not talking about the official inflation rates TV reports, but the real life one.
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March 07, 2014, 04:14:49 PM
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China has weird currency. It is control by government in a weird way, I'm not sure if it still like it was when i was reading article in Scientific American about it. In general they currency is controlled in such way prices stay same and we all know it is artificial as hell. Post-soviet countries had same problem with currency controlling so hard to pretend there are no inflation, even though there always is.

On other hand I hear all the time China move closer to free market, moving from Marx to Confucian  way of doing business. Maybe there were any changes but i still guess any other currency, especially one you can use all over the world and is not accepted as official currency, so smaller control from government, might be very nice for them.

The way they control money isn't all that different from the way the Fed controls our money.  Roll Eyes

Money gets printed whenever they think they should...
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March 07, 2014, 04:46:11 PM
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No need to doubt because many Chinese like to gamble. Wonder which casino sees the most revenue? Not Las Vegas anymore, but Macao, with flocks of Chinese.

There is no such thing. And bitcoin is not gambling, not even similar, from a speculation point of view it is like buying land and wait to see what happens. Other than that it is just a pseudo currency.

I see peoiple is in denial, the volume is fake. Evidence is strong.
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March 07, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
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china inflated their currency by 20% just recently...

Most currencies have close to that level of inflation too by the way.
And i'm not talking about the official inflation rates TV reports, but the real life one.
you mean the inflation felt by people... official inflation is calculated with a basket of goods which have no real relevance and or nearly no price changes except maybe gasoline and heating oil...
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March 13, 2014, 03:46:59 AM
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Everybody knows the trading volume is "Fake" despite the fact that the CEO of Huobi claimed that the rumour is not true!!! Prove it's not fake then, anybody can deny the truth!
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