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October 04, 2018, 10:55:57 PM
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legal but regulated.
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Exportation and importation of cryptographic tools to or from foreign countries must be either declared (when the other country is a member of the European Union) or requires an explicit authorization (for countries outside the EU).

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On the other hand, the supply, import, intra-Community transfer and export of a means of cryptography are subject, unless otherwise specified, to declaration or request for authorisation.
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October 13, 2018, 11:46:36 AM
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In my opinion, it will not happen, our current currency also used in some illegal transaction, like selling drugs, buying weapons etc. It's the same with cryptocurrency.. It might be use in good or bad.
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October 19, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
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We all know what the rulers want. Total control. But now they can not ban crypto. If it were possible, do not hesitate, they would do it. A crypto will always remain in a gray zone, outside states and politics. I think we should rejoice at such an opportunity. And the fact that they will talk there on TV is not for us.
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October 20, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
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We all know what the rulers want. Total control. But now they can not ban crypto. If it were possible, do not hesitate, they would do it. A crypto will always remain in a gray zone, outside states and politics. I think we should rejoice at such an opportunity. And the fact that they will talk there on TV is not for us.

It is because they want to control everything because they have the interest on it and usually it is the interest of money. Making cryptography illegal is clear a threat to cryptocurrency. They were doing this for them to take advantage. As we all know that some issues and problems regarding with cryptocurrency could be resolved even on its own. The government could also be at help for some issues like ANONYMITY and it could clearly be regulated in accordance with how it will be going to use.

Cryptocurrency has more advantage because of its block chain application and this should be the government should look upon. The block chain technology could even be applied in the government system for transparency. This will going to solve some issues with corruption. Thus, transactions will be made public through block chain if they let this technology to be implemented in their system. But, they seeing this innovation as nothing special.
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October 22, 2018, 04:23:52 AM
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Last week I stumbled upon a blog with an article titled "cryptography could become illegal in the future". I did only read the introduction because I thought it was probably a click bait.

Today after reading "Spies still butthurt they can't get at encrypted comms data Five Eyes to tech: We have ways of making you comply"
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/31/five_eyes_2018_meeting_encryption_terrorist_content/

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Encryption is vital to the digital economy, a secure cyberspace and the protection of personal, commercial and government information. The five countries have no interest or intention to weaken encryption mechanisms. We recognise, however, that encryption, including end-to-end encryption, is also used in the conduct of terrorist and criminal activities

I started to think that they're crazy enough to really want to ban cryptography. (I like the "terrorist and criminal activities" excuse, you can use it for a lot of things)

I found that there is a regulation in my country about cryptography, looking to know how others countries consider the cryptography, to my surprise I found it's an industry regulated in a lot of countries, some even ban it...

In the name of the cybersecurity and using the fear, do you think cryptography could be an industry with regulations more strictly tightened




Indeed, many countries have banned cryptocurrency and cryptocurrency mining, usually stating something along those lines, which although holding some truth, plain old cash is likely the most commonly used form of liquidity among terrorists and criminals. Another common (at least cited) fear is that of monetary instability, tax evasion, moving money out of the country, etc. On top of that, some countries (including some in the previously mentioned category) have talked about introducing (or already have introduced) centralized crypto tokens (some countries like Venezuela are now requiring the token to be used for certain government services). That being said, some countries are quite open and friendly to 'traditional' (if we can say that about technology so young) cryptocurrencies (at least now they are). Regulations seem quite justifiable in many cases, not only for the mentions reasons (whatever credence they may hold), but also for the fact that (the majority of) cryptocurrency ICOs have been frequent sources of scams, failed projects, and lost investment money (in addition to the fact that crypto can easily be lost if you're not careful with your storage); While crypto exchanges have been frequently hacked, and millions stolen, again, investment money gone - and to who-knows-who? To answer your last question, yes it certainly seems that it could.

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October 25, 2018, 12:35:55 PM
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Last week I stumbled upon a blog with an article titled "cryptography could become illegal in the future". I did only read the introduction because I thought it was probably a click bait.

Today after reading "Spies still butthurt they can't get at encrypted comms data Five Eyes to tech: We have ways of making you comply"
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/31/five_eyes_2018_meeting_encryption_terrorist_content/

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Encryption is vital to the digital economy, a secure cyberspace and the protection of personal, commercial and government information. The five countries have no interest or intention to weaken encryption mechanisms. We recognise, however, that encryption, including end-to-end encryption, is also used in the conduct of terrorist and criminal activities

I started to think that they're crazy enough to really want to ban cryptography. (I like the "terrorist and criminal activities" excuse, you can use it for a lot of things)

I found that there is a regulation in my country about cryptography, looking to know how others countries consider the cryptography, to my surprise I found it's an industry regulated in a lot of countries, some even ban it...

In the name of the cybersecurity and using the fear, do you think cryptography could be an industry with regulations more strictly tightened

Everyone with the knowledge on cryptography can make a new language. That's why the cryptography could be harmful for the government and potentially beneficial to terrorist, if they do actually know how to cryptograph.
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October 26, 2018, 09:28:57 PM
Last edit: October 27, 2018, 12:40:00 PM by LeGaulois
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You are considering cryptocurrency. To ban cryptography because "some terrorists" may use it. Let me remember you that cryptography exists since the Egyptian Empire. It's in human nature, "we all have secrets"....
Cryptography exists long before digital currencies and it isn't only about cryptocurrency world.
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October 30, 2018, 10:09:33 AM
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On the first day you've been entered in the web, your privacy is now vulnerable, because using internet is like leaving your house door and windows without a lock and everyone can enter on it.
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November 07, 2018, 10:31:55 PM
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Whew! But I seriously doubt the effectiveness of such ban if at all it comes to that. I mean the influence is larger now, Bitcoin is 10 years old.Lot of multinationals and others are keying into the technology, I don't see it happening. And if they do, there will always ve some other ways.
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