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September 24, 2018, 07:08:49 PM
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I frequent the Bitcoin Discussion board and you are right, the posts are actually the same ones more often. Do you think that maybe there should also be some sort of rule that prevents users from reposting the same topics over and over? I am not sure how it will work of course but I was thinking how in WordPress you can filter and set some banned words to prevent spammers from commenting. Or perhaps a moderated new topic and/or comments? It will surely take a lot of work but maybe it will alleviate the spam in the discussion board.

If you see a duplicate topic, hit the report button and in the comment box include a link to the already existing topic. I do this regularly and the duplicates are almost always removed, it just sometimes takes several hours for a moderator to get round to it because hey, they have lives too.

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September 24, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
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this forum loses 11% visitors per months,

so be paitient, as soon as the world doesnt care about bitcoin anymore you will be rid of the spammers as well

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September 24, 2018, 07:28:53 PM
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If you see a duplicate topic, hit the report button and in the comment box include a link to the already existing topic. I do this regularly and the duplicates are almost always removed, it just sometimes takes several hours for a moderator to get round to it because hey, they have lives too.

Oh, okay. Thanks I will. I see a lot of them in the Bitcoin Discussion board. Although I am not sure if the post itself is a duplicate, a lot of the titles I see have been posted before (sometimes I just do not click anymore when I see a title I have already seen before). To be honest it is not just in the Bitcoin Discussion board, even in the Off-topic and Altcoins and Economics discussion board, I think.
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September 24, 2018, 08:02:11 PM
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The new changes have undoubtedly made a difference for the forum, but as you said, and many others have been saying, a requirement of more than 5 Merits to make the signatures available would have made the difference much more bigger than this. But, as they say, something is better than nothing.

you can filter and set some banned words to prevent spammers from commenting.

Filtered words won't prevent spammers from spamming, since they can always use different words if they come to know what words are being filtered. And it is not possible to stop this by filters since the words they use to spam are the words other users also use to post, so it won't just stop the spammers from posting but it would not allow others to use the same words as well. That solution won't work in this case.

Or perhaps a moderated new topic and/or comments? It will surely take a lot of work but maybe it will alleviate the spam in the discussion board.

That is what I suggested here, if you read the OP, you would have known. I asked people to create self-moderated threads in Bitcoin Discussion board to keep the spirit alive, and don't just let the spammers take over the board. A self-moderated thread can do good since the creator can easily remove useless comments and keep the discussion clean all the time.
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September 25, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
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this forum loses 11% visitors per months,

so be paitient, as soon as the world doesnt care about bitcoin anymore you will be rid of the spammers as well

It's more like those 11% are the shiposters that were here only to promote the scammy ICOs for some shitcoins.
Don't worry so much about the bitcoin popularity, its doing grate at the moment.

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September 25, 2018, 07:24:56 PM
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That is what I suggested here, if you read the OP, you would have known. I asked people to create self-moderated threads in Bitcoin Discussion board to keep the spirit alive, and don't just let the spammers take over the board. A self-moderated thread can do good since the creator can easily remove useless comments and keep the discussion clean all the time.

I did, however, I have to ask what do you mean by self-moderated thread though? Do you mean like the other suggested, that if a user saw a post that seemed spam or of low quality, to report it right away? If that is the case then I agree. I think that it could help the moderators have an easier job since the users are helping, is that right?
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September 25, 2018, 07:49:51 PM
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what do you mean by self-moderated thread though? Do you mean like the other suggested, that if a user saw a post that seemed spam or of low quality, to report it right away?

No. A self-moderated thread means that the creator of that thread is himself the moderator of it, meaning he doesn't need to report anything to a forum moderator, but instead, he can delete them himself and keep the discussion clean.


this forum loses 11% visitors per months,

so be paitient, as soon as the world doesnt care about bitcoin anymore you will be rid of the spammers as well

I don't know what you are talking about, since the population of this forum as well as Bitcoin users database are increasing rapidly. A percentage subtracted does not count when a percentage added is bigger than it.
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September 25, 2018, 08:24:35 PM
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No. A self-moderated thread means that the creator of that thread is himself the moderator of it, meaning he doesn't need to report anything to a forum moderator, but instead, he can delete them himself and keep the discussion clean.

Oh, I see. Thanks. I think that could work, although for threads that gets multiple replies easily, it could be challenging to go through it one by one. But I could see how this is going to at least solve the problem with the spamming. It is like cleaning up your house one room at a time.
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September 26, 2018, 06:34:09 AM
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I hope theymos will implement some new mods soon. Bitcoin Discussion is only going to get worse the longer it doesn't have a couple of dedicated caretakers looking after the place.

this forum loses 11% visitors per months,

so be paitient, as soon as the world doesnt care about bitcoin anymore you will be rid of the spammers as well

The world could lose interest in bitcoin but some form of crypto will likely always be around and if there's ICOs that will still pay them then people will still come here in droves. The vast majority of people who sign up to this forum couldn't' care less about bitcoin or what it stands for, but they just want to earn tokens to cash out into their local fiat. As long as people can earn here then the forum will do ok for traffic.

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September 28, 2018, 05:29:15 AM
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I hope theymos will implement some new mods soon. Bitcoin Discussion is only going to get worse the longer it doesn't have a couple of dedicated caretakers looking after the place.

He should have already done it along with the selection of Merit Sources he announced recently with the new changes. I know it is not as easy to choose a mod as it is to choose a Merit Source, but today or tomorrow, it needs to be done. The forum in current situation needs patrolling more than Merit distribution which is also for the betterment of the community. Bitcoin Discussion and Beginners & Help would definitely require more care right now or they will go even deeper in this shit.
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September 28, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
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I hope theymos will implement some new mods soon. Bitcoin Discussion is only going to get worse the longer it doesn't have a couple of dedicated caretakers looking after the place.

He should have already done it along with the selection of Merit Sources he announced recently with the new changes. I know it is not as easy to choose a mod as it is to choose a Merit Source, but today or tomorrow, it needs to be done. The forum in current situation needs patrolling more than Merit distribution which is also for the betterment of the community. Bitcoin Discussion and Beginners & Help would definitely require more care right now or they will go even deeper in this shit.

It should have been done a long time ago, but why isn't it as easy as choosing a merit source? I'd argue it's probably easier. Theymos has all the stats of all the reporters in each separate sub board and there's already quite a few very high reporters to choose from including some very long-standing and pretty trusted users. I've suggested a couple in the past that I'm sure would make a huge difference, but leaving that sub without one only makes it worse and others are even starting to lose hope in reporting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039285.0

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September 28, 2018, 08:16:01 AM
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It should have been done a long time ago, but why isn't it as easy as choosing a merit source?

I said that because I think that being a moderator is quite a bigger responsibility than being a Merit Source, since a Merit Source is only responsible to choose the posts that he thinks are of quality, but a mod has to decide if a person or a post needs to remain or to go. But of course as you said, theymos has all the stats and there are already a lot of trusted users who are ready to dedicate their time to this cause. So it should not be difficult for him to choose some hard working mods around here.
The reporters would absolutely lose hope if there is no manual patrolling going on in boards like Bitcoin Discussion or Altcoin Discussion etc. where if you report one post, meanwhile, 10 more posts are submitted.
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