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September 04, 2018, 08:34:17 PM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.
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September 05, 2018, 01:22:57 AM
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Margin trading is more risk than spot trading, so make sure you use only maximum 5% of total your money for it and remaining 95% for spot trading. Personally in bull market i prefer to chooce spot trading and for margin trading i only do it in down trend. To minimize risk  for the better use maximum 5 times leverage because higher than that  the balance can be going to zero with short times.
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September 05, 2018, 05:43:11 AM
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If you think it is a bull run then you no need to do trading to make profits,by holding even you can make lot of profits more than any kind of trading so better invest more in the bull run and sell later when it happens such effortless way to make money.But we can't find when the bull run will going to happen!
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September 05, 2018, 06:35:19 AM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.


If you have just learnt what margin trading is then you most likely have just learnt what "trading" is in general. So most likely you are new and will end up losing all your BTC if you try margin trading.

I know many people here have like 1 BTC, and they want to go long on 100x so 100 BTC long position so they can catch BTC going all the way to $10K, $20K, or $50K. However there is no gaurantee that the low last month was the all time low for the year.

You are just better holding your BTC or maybe buying some promising alts and hope for the best. Don't try and get greedy because you might get margin called and then the bull market will happen; without you.

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September 05, 2018, 06:59:09 AM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.

margin trade is very profitable if you know how it works but very risky. Many margin traders learn from trading stock and forex and the always start with demo trading. Because of the risk involved I will advise you to open accounts with any site that offer demo and practice for a very long time before putting real money.
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September 05, 2018, 07:55:54 AM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.


good question. You should buy btc on spot (don't use margin).  Then wait until 2nd wave of growth is formed. For example 4800 will be a bottom  - you buy for 5000 on spot (without margin), then the price goes up to 8000 and come back to 6000 (2nd wave bottom) and here you should use your margin for purchases.
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September 05, 2018, 08:02:38 AM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.


If you have just learnt what margin trading is then you most likely have just learnt what "trading" is in general. So most likely you are new and will end up losing all your BTC if you try margin trading.

I know many people here have like 1 BTC, and they want to go long on 100x so 100 BTC long position so they can catch BTC going all the way to $10K, $20K, or $50K. However there is no gaurantee that the low last month was the all time low for the year.

You are just better holding your BTC or maybe buying some promising alts and hope for the best. Don't try and get greedy because you might get margin called and then the bull market will happen; without you.
These days finding a promising alt while hoping for the best might prove a bit difficult. The only direction most price of alts take is mostly down, in my own opinion holding on to BTC seems the only viable option.
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September 05, 2018, 11:36:10 AM
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You are just better holding your BTC or maybe buying some promising alts and hope for the best. Don't try and get greedy because you might get margin called and then the bull market will happen; without you.
You are right that OP is better off holding his bitcoins if he only learned margin trading recently but IMO he can use at least a little portion of his portfolio to try it, for education's sake.
I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.
I don't know if this will help you, but you can refer to this site for information about how margin trading works. After reading the information that can be found on the site, try searching up margin trading more here in bitcointalk and then educate yourself by trying it for education's sake. Just remember to only invest what you can afford to lose.
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September 05, 2018, 12:40:37 PM
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I think when BTC settle same price range,margin trading is more profitable.When in a bull run you no need to margin trade,DYOR the coins for long hold and buy it.
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September 05, 2018, 12:46:16 PM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.


1) "I've just learned about margin trading."

2) "I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky."

My suggestion is obvious, don't risk anything if you don't understand what you are doing.

So when you can start?
After you "understand" the basics.
After you "understand" the risks.
After you "understand" what is margin trading all about.

Who knows when will the bull run start? In here, you will test the market by putting your margin trading strategy on actual that's why you need to fully understand everything first before engaging on that method.

How will you become a successful margin trader? Build experienced and be used to it. That's it. Kind of long guide if we will discuss it here and I doubt it will be read so I will just leave my statement as that.

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September 05, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
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In a bull market margin trading is pretty easy and you don't need any real expertise. But in a bull market doing just about anything will turn a profit. In the current market I wouldn't advise it. We are still bearish and until we see some serious upward movement that will be the case. Use this time to read more and improve your skills and understanding until the market does turn around.

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September 05, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.
I have a live real example with me, my friend who is really a great trader and made over 30 btc+ profits during the worse market we have (these last 6 months) with just 1 btc is an insane trader and always finds a coin that will eventually increase even tho he keeps holding them for months he trusts that a coin he bought will always go up.

He didn't even sold his coins when they went up a bit and hold it because he believed they will go higher and he was right. Now this dude who is an insane trader really told me that he would never even consider margin trading during such a market because even tho the price can go up %20 in a day it can also go down 20% in a day, and even the slight 1-2% changes can get you closer to liquidation prices so he stays away from that.
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September 05, 2018, 04:13:18 PM
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Yes, learn how to trade without margin first and master your Enters & Exits extremely well, there's alot less room for error when trading with margin expecially if you're doing high leveraged margin trades.

Trading margin without previous knowledge on trading without is like putting toddler on an F1-car and telling him to drive couple laps. Wouldn't recommend.
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September 06, 2018, 06:58:47 AM
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No idea if the original poster will ever come back in this thread and reply but basically what we have seen today is people like him who get greedy and end up getting liquidated.

Someone tallied up the numbers and today there was over $570 million of LONG liquidations on Bitmex.

Basically people like the OP, who went long with 10x to 100x leverage because they assumed the bottom was in and they ended up getting liquidated.

The proof is in the charts because in less than 24 hours we lost over $1200 of BTC value very fast and this was mostly due to liquidations of longs.

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September 06, 2018, 07:40:06 AM
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OP, you can go and use Kraken or if you are feeling like taking a risk, go to Bitfinex. Haha. But Kraken is what I would recommend. But prepare all your KYC documents, although Kraken is not as invasive as Bitstamp's KYC process. That's the good news.

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September 07, 2018, 01:31:36 PM
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No sign of Bullrun as yet its just manipulation going on by big players as you mentioned margin trading I think it is the main reason of manipulation as people are making money on margin trading even if bitcoin goes down by shorting it. The news is just used as a tool to dump the prices and make the noobs believe that it was dumped for that particular news.
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September 08, 2018, 08:16:30 AM
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No idea if the original poster will ever come back in this thread and reply but basically what we have seen today is people like him who get greedy and end up getting liquidated.

Someone tallied up the numbers and today there was over $570 million of LONG liquidations on Bitmex.

Basically people like the OP, who went long with 10x to 100x leverage because they assumed the bottom was in and they ended up getting liquidated.

The proof is in the charts because in less than 24 hours we lost over $1200 of BTC value very fast and this was mostly due to liquidations of longs.
Which is what happens eventually to someone who is not ready to learn but just thinks there is so much opportunity in the market to tap from and they just want to quickly start tapping from it.

The market is always going to be a complex one and only those who will be able to handle it will be those who have all the knowledge, still keep seeing how much learning you need to keep doing to get the best from trading, and then keep applying all their knowledge and experience into it.

The problem with margin trading however is that once you get liquidated, then you are out, whereas in normal trading, you can even at least decide to be patient and wait for the market to pick up eventually.

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September 08, 2018, 08:29:54 AM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.


You don't really need to look after whats coming in the market, whether it is bull or bear it wont matter at all. The best thing about the margin trading is to keep yourself in a window where you will put and call exactly at the window where you are getting profits. Now this can be done within the biggest wave of bull or biggest of bear itself. Dont forget, you are looking at the bigger picture here, that is waiting for the bull market to pop up, but you dont really have to go that way. There are always small ups and down before we can reach any bull market. You just have to trade yourself over those market and nothing else. Dont try to wait for long period of time and waiting for the bull wave to come because if you do so then why not just hold and have long term trade.

 
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.
This is actually not about the master sharing his strategies; this is about knowing what you want to embark on. There are so many strategies anyone can make use of to make the best of the market, but even if you share it as a professional trader, it is someone who already understands the basic that would be able to get what you are telling them. What is important is for you to learn and even though you want to go the marginal way, which is good you already understand the risks, then you will want to make sure you have all the normal market knowledge as well as trading knowledge you need to do it right.
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September 09, 2018, 03:28:26 AM
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To avoid big risk in margin trading is better use low leverage because in bull market we can make high profit from spot trading. Use maximum 5 times leverage will be minimize the risk from liquidated price and use lower amount for margin trading. Margin trading with high leverage will be similar betting and when we did it we will never make profit.

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October 11, 2018, 02:35:37 AM
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In bull market many crypto possible to going up to 10 times in a few month and this profit is huge profit already and i think no need to take more risk by use margin.

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October 11, 2018, 03:03:18 AM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.
This is actually not about the master sharing his strategies; this is about knowing what you want to embark on. There are so many strategies anyone can make use of to make the best of the market, but even if you share it as a professional trader, it is someone who already understands the basic that would be able to get what you are telling them. What is important is for you to learn and even though you want to go the marginal way, which is good you already understand the risks, then you will want to make sure you have all the normal market knowledge as well as trading knowledge you need to do it right.

I am now considering to stay away from this scammy bitmex

Witnessing how his Sh*tty exchange won't exit my open positions

Overloading system, WTh

checking on Deribit as of the moment
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November 08, 2018, 08:47:14 AM
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A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.
This is actually not about the master sharing his strategies; this is about knowing what you want to embark on. There are so many strategies anyone can make use of to make the best of the market, but even if you share it as a professional trader, it is someone who already understands the basic that would be able to get what you are telling them. What is important is for you to learn and even though you want to go the marginal way, which is good you already understand the risks, then you will want to make sure you have all the normal market knowledge as well as trading knowledge you need to do it right.

I am now considering to stay away from this scammy bitmex

Witnessing how his Sh*tty exchange won't exit my open positions

Overloading system, WTh

checking on Deribit as of the moment



Bitmex had a lot going for it until it decided to stop improving the service. The system is always overloaded even with $5 movements.

I don't know about this new platform Digitex my experience is with Bitmex and Deribit( https://www.deribit.com/reg-3404.8501?q=home) I switched to deribit for btc trading and still do small volumes Alt trades on Bitmex
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January 25, 2019, 01:34:18 AM
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Avoid greedy when doing trading activity, so when bull market is avoid margin trading and for the better spend more times for spot trading because when bull market alot of crypto will going up multiple times and we have more potential to earn big profit with less risk. And will be better idea only to do margin trading when the market change in to bearish trend.

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