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Another good find. Wipro, the user who made the ANN Thread, is not directly associated with this ICO however. He runs a thread designing and posting service as you can see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459496.0I'm not sure how the community feels about cases like this. Certainly the consensus a while ago was that Bounty Managers were generally not held responsible for the project that hired them. In the first instance it seems fair to message Wipro, as I have done, to let him know he is managing a scam project. He does include the following disclaimer in his ANN Thread: Disclaimer: I have posted this thread on behalf of GETMODER team. All other things are suppose to be asked and write to the team members.
Sincerely, Wipro
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September 06, 2018, 11:09:36 PM Last edit: September 06, 2018, 11:19:52 PM by ICOEthics |
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...He runs a thread designing and posting service....
He should be watching his own back, especially when he is doing for money. ....Certainly the consensus a while ago was that Bounty Managers were generally not held responsible for the project that hired them. In the first instance it seems fair to message Wipro, as I have done, to let him know he is managing a scam project.
Again, if he is making money on this project, he is not a victim. This was an easy to spot SCAM, as you can clearly see, very easy to find stock images. He was just lazy to search for them. We should put bounty hunters in the spotlight as well and make them responsible for what they are promoting. This is a clear case of someone that was just lazy to search for images of the team. There are many posts teaching people how to spot scams. It is their problem if they are the manager of a scam project. Negative trust deserved. We would say that we would consider this an abuse of the system since he has over 500 merits and because of that, people will have more trust in this person.
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September 06, 2018, 11:51:56 PM |
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This was an easy to spot SCAM, as you can clearly see, very easy to find stock images. He was just lazy to search for them.
We should put bounty hunters in the spotlight as well and make them responsible for what they are promoting. This is a clear case of someone that was just lazy to search for images of the team. Oh, I completely agree. This could be exposed as a scam with <5 minutes of research. This does not reflect well on Wipro, but it is equally likely he is just lazy as opposed to actively trying to scam anyone as the creators of the ICO were. Is being lazy an excuse? No, and managers/promoters/etc should look in to any project they want to attach their name to. But I also think it's only fair to give Wipro a chance to respond to this one.
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ICOEthics (OP)
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September 07, 2018, 12:25:07 AM |
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..... But I also think it's only fair to give Wipro a chance to respond to this one.
We are giving him a chance to respond to this and we will consider removing the negative trust depending on his answer. We posted today September 06, 2018, 07:08:49 PM. Plenty of time by now to have this accusation answered, we will give him 24 hours.
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Wipro
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September 07, 2018, 12:26:14 PM Last edit: September 07, 2018, 12:37:00 PM by Wipro |
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@op Hey see the Disclaimer information followed by OP. I have clearly mentioned that 'Disclaimer: I have posted this thread on behalf of GETMODER team. All other things are suppose to be asked and write to the team members.' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4901313.msg44143678#msg44143678This is the below person you need to contact regarding this project. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851960
I just designed and posted for them and I did not sign up for bounty engagement, since I see this as scam project now. I will not take this with me and damage my reputation here.
NOTE: I did not shared any of the above images shared reference in their ANN. Even they requested the same. Hope you understand and avoid your trolls.
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September 07, 2018, 12:36:07 PM |
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Thanks for the link to the ICO team member - I have tagged him and encourage others to do the same. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and time to respond - however, your response is inadequate. Regardless of your disclaimer, you are hosting and promoting a scam project, and the responsible course of action here is to delete the thread and distance yourself from the scam. Failing to do that makes you complicit in the scam.
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Wipro
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September 07, 2018, 12:40:07 PM |
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Thanks for the link to the ICO team member - I have tagged him and encourage others to do the same. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and time to respond - however, your response is inadequate. Regardless of your disclaimer, you are hosting and promoting a scam project, and the responsible course of action here is to delete the thread and distance yourself from the scam. Failing to do that makes you untrustworthy. Okay I am deleting it now. Thanks for understanding. I will be careful before I help team for Ann designing works. EDIT: I am unable to delete own thread on that section. Henceforth, I have locked the thread and cleared the op with mentioned this link info. Thanks, Wipro
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September 07, 2018, 01:56:26 PM |
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Thanks for locking that topic. I will be careful before I help team for Ann designing works. Just thinking out loud - are other projects legit? Example - https://www.amigocoin.co.uk/ ? Template looks so familiar. Can you please ask Mr. Gabriel to show us team members? I believe investors need to know to whom they are giving money, and I didn't find their team on site - not even founder. ICO is live. http://archive.is/AWG82As you mention: Hey see the Disclaimer information followed by OP. I have clearly mentioned that 'Disclaimer: I have posted this thread on behalf of GETMODER team. All other things are suppose to be asked and write to the team members. As there is no disclaimer, should I suppose you are behind amigocoin?
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September 07, 2018, 02:23:19 PM |
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Their roadmap only went as far as Q2 this year. That's a red flag to begin with. It also included and Android and IOS wallet which was supposed to be released in May, which as far as I can tell hasn't happened. Their website claims they are listed on the following 7 exchanges: EtherDelta, ForkDelta, Tokenjar, IDEX, Wandex, DDEX, and TokenStore. I have searched all 7 and they are in fact only listen on TokenStore. There is no mention of AmigoCoin/AMGC on any of the other 6. Their whitepaper includes a page entitled "The Team", with a blank page underneath.
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September 07, 2018, 02:34:01 PM |
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...Okay I am deleting it now. Thanks for understanding. I will be careful before I help team for Ann designing works.
EDIT: I am unable to delete own thread on that section. Henceforth, I have locked the thread and cleared the op with mentioned this link info.
Thanks, Wipro
Thank you Wipro for locking the thread. Please do a full check on the ICO that you will list/or promote. - Team, whitepaper, etc...
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September 07, 2018, 03:29:55 PM Last edit: September 07, 2018, 04:02:40 PM by marlboroza |
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Interesting. Ok, I went trough my post history as I was pretty sure I've recently seen this template, so here it is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4931258.0It is the same template used for few scams. I can't reach powerburs ICO, but ICOethics archived site here https://archive.is/r00qJ. This is where it become interesting, powerburst's roadmap: Amigocoin's roadmap: Someone already archive site here https://web.archive.org/web/20180426161136/https://www.amigocoin.co.uk/ and here https://web.archive.org/web/20180904205101/https://www.amigocoin.co.uk/In first archived thread they claim they will be listed on some exchanges: AmigoCoin will be listed on key crypto exchanges around the world - China - Huobi - OkCoin - BTCC - Cryptonia Japans BITARG (Yahoo 40% investment) There is also counter for first ICO phase - it says "32 days left". Domain checkPowerburst: Domain: powerburstico.com Registrar: NameCheap Inc. Registration Date: 2018-04-06 Expiration Date: 2019-04-06 Updated Date: 2018-04-06 Status: clientTransferProhibited Name Servers:dns1.namecheaphosting.comAmigocoin domain is 2 1 month older: Domain:amigocoin.co.uk Registrar: 123-Reg Limited t/a 123-reg [Tag = 123-REG] Registration Date: 2018-02-23 Expiration Date: 2020-02-23 Updated Date: 2018-03-28 Status: Registered until expiry date. Name Servers: ns.123-reg.co.uk
Ok, back to amigocoin, does anyone see ICO time counter like this: This could be bug in template.
What is really going on here Any thoughts?
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September 07, 2018, 04:52:17 PM |
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What is really going on here Any thoughts? Roadmap copied from template, completely inaccurate. Lied about exchange listings. No team. Fake counter. Laughable whitepaper. It's 100% a scam.
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September 07, 2018, 06:58:23 PM |
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...Okay I am deleting it now. Thanks for understanding. I will be careful before I help team for Ann designing works.
EDIT: I am unable to delete own thread on that section. Henceforth, I have locked the thread and cleared the op with mentioned this link info.
Thanks, Wipro
Thank you Wipro for locking the thread. Please do a full check on the ICO that you will list/or promote. - Team, whitepaper, etc... Thanks will be taking care as you suggested. Thanks so much, keep in touch[/quote] This amigocoin also same like the above project, they approached for Ann design and posted. Just now got the new thread on the same section for Amigocoin. As Instructed there I just locked it.
Thank you, Wipro
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September 08, 2018, 04:44:38 AM |
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You had made multiple ANN Thread for scam ICO lately. To be honest you are too careless about your work. It's not excusable for me. So I have to leave you negetive feedback in order to save people. It's too dangerous for us to promote scam ICO here. I don't about DT will tag or not but deserve you. After caught delete the post isn't solution, in fact there is multiple case.
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September 08, 2018, 05:38:36 AM |
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~snip~
You had made multiple ANN Thread for scam ICO lately. To be honest you are too careless about your work. It's not excusable for me. So I have to leave you negetive feedback in order to save people. It's too dangerous for us to promote scam ICO here. I don't about DT will tag or not but deserve you. After caught delete the post isn't solution, in fact there is multiple case. @Coolcryptovator Designing part only thing I have helped with these guys. Since you guys asked the contact details whoever being contacted me on this designing side. I have given it already and finally as you guys requested I have deleted the op as well. Moreover I did not use any any images mentioned as fake in my Ann design and that op. So you may look into that.
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September 08, 2018, 06:31:13 AM |
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@Coolcryptovator Designing part only thing I have helped with these guys. Since you guys asked the contact details whoever being contacted me on this designing side. I have given it already and finally as you guys requested I have deleted the op as well. Moreover I did not use any any images mentioned as fake in my Ann design and that op. So you may look into that.
As you know there is many scam ICO with fake team. I am sorry to say that most of managers has never visit Scam Accusation board. So that's why they are not aware about current situation what's going on here. Btw, you had posted yourself, not only design. And there is multiple case against you. Although my feedback will not reflect on your profile but I will follow forward. If I find your activity positive I will change my feedback to neutral. Be aware before get any project.
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September 10, 2018, 12:19:53 AM |
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Another good find. Wipro, the user who made the ANN Thread, is not directly associated with this ICO however. He runs a thread designing and posting service as you can see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459496.0I'm not sure how the community feels about cases like this. Certainly the consensus a while ago was that Bounty Managers were generally not held responsible for the project that hired them. In the first instance it seems fair to message Wipro, as I have done, to let him know he is managing a scam project. Wipro doesn't need to put his/her name on those scams. Let them buy Copper memberships and post their own ANNs. Adding a more senior username to an ANN is just an attempt to fool noobs. I have negged Wipro because there have been at least 3 scams in the last few days associated with him/her. Another way to look at it - if the amateur (and I don't mean this in any derogatory way, just that you guys and gals aren't getting paid for it) scam busters can uncover these scams in the ocean of sewage then someone who makes money off those ICOs certainly can do the same and spare everyone the aggravation.
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