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September 12, 2018, 09:14:31 AM Last edit: September 16, 2018, 07:45:53 AM by wwzsocki |
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Moderator for what? A patroller? Probably some of the best choices for staff likely aren't even on this shortlist and is why popularity isn't the best quantifier. Sure, those who are very active and helpful within the community should be taken into consideration, but it's the accurate reporting showing you're aware of the rules that is usually the better identifier of suitability. As we've seen, some of the most popular amongst the community aren't even interested in the position either. Choosing mods for sub boards should obviously be chosen from the users who are most active in reporting within there and only theymos has access to that info. Do you remember rickbig? He isn't much popular but is a very active reporter who just deserved the position of global MOD. When he was elected, there were very few members who know about him. This shows that just being popular isn't enough to get appointed.
rickbig is a perfect example. He wasn't much of an active poster at all, but he was reporting an insane amount of posts. Every morning when I woke up there was often dozens upon dozens of reports by him on spambots and often times they had been in the queue for hours and could be still there for many more if I didn't get round to them or was out that morning. That's why it made perfect sense to have him on board. He frees up time from current mods and doesn't have to waste time reporting bots when he could just nuke them himself. He then rose rapidly to Global because he was still very active in reporting and it made sense for him to be a Global (and still despite being very active in actually posting). He's now probably amongst the top handlers of reports (though I can't be certain and only theymos will have access to those stats and that's why he is the best one suited to choosing new staff members). Maybe one day he might even become an admin. Who knows. Agree fully with Hillarious. You need some special skills to be a moderator. One of them is reporting because this is a perfect measure but not only. If member report dozen of abusers in his spare time without any incentive and is doing a great job with very high accuracy then this is really good indicator that he would be a great moderator but still, he should start from patrol rank or even be supervised for some time by established moderator who will check his actions in first weeks of his work to avoid abuse and stupid mistakes which can bring more harm than good for BTT members. I see this lists wich OP put together and I know that all these members are well recognized and very popular because they are involved in almost all the most important threads regarding this forum but that does not mean that they will be good moderators and that they have the necessary qualifications and time for this job. Actually, I have almost 2,5k posts reported with 100% accuracy and only 14 bad (which I get at the start). I would be glad to help to clean this forum as a volunteer or patroller but from what I see there is no way to apply for this task only you have to be chosen by staff members. I think there should be a thread where members can apply for such tasks. This would be fairer. There are a lot of members like me which are here a few years long, know a lot about crypto, post quality content, fight spam and abuse but don't have friends between forum staff members and don't post in every thread on meta, reputation or scam section to be recognized or just to butter up.
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After searching moderators on each board, I found out Xal0lex is a moderator of the russian board and he/she becomes a Sr. Member last august 12. So it's really possible for theyoungmillionaire to be a moderator also of our Local board(Philippines) deym.
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After searching moderators on each board, I found out Xal0lex is a moderator of the russian board and he/she becomes a Sr. Member last august 12. So it's really possible for theyoungmillionaire to be a moderator also of our Local board(Philippines) deym. I became a mod at Senior I think, and rank isn't that relevant, but the longer you've been here the better, especially if you're very, very active but the number of reports you're making should be the biggest factor. The Philippines board already has two mods and Rickbig is very active here so not sure if it desperately needs another, but we do need more patrollers and dedicated sub board mods.
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If the selection really happens, then Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion boards would require more mods, and Economics section definitely needs a mod or two. These are the most annoyingly crowded boards on the forum which probably require a lot of attention and clean up. Other than that, Beginners & Help can use one more mod along with Flying Hellfish too.
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I became a mod at Senior I think, and rank isn't that relevant, but the longer you've been here the better, especially if you're very, very active but the number of reports you're making should be the biggest factor. The Philippines board already has two mods and Rickbig is very active here so not sure if it desperately needs another, but we do need more patrollers and dedicated sub board mods.
Apparently they aren't very active in their board, so I have been told. That board doesn't have enough merit sources too ,it seems. We need mods for a lot of boards, but is there any use for us to complain and just complain?
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September 14, 2018, 10:12:58 PM |
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If the selection really happens, then Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion boards would require more mods, and Economics section definitely needs a mod or two. These are the most annoyingly crowded boards on the forum which probably require a lot of attention and clean up. Other than that, Beginners & Help can use one more mod along with Flying Hellfish too. We also need more people reporting in the Altcoin Discussion section. Most of my reports come from newbie posts in various different sections(patroller), and then the announcement, and tokens sections. The rest of the sub sections don't really have that many reports.
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@Welsh PM the sub sections i take a look for it if i got the time ! But i cant be everywhere lol ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Snip Apparently they aren't very active in their board, so I have been told. That board doesn't have enough merit sources too ,it seems.
We need mods for a lot of boards, but is there any use for us to complain and just complain?
Reports in the Philippines isn't that big that it needs another mod, besides,Dabs is still active... Some of the posters there are probably just talking to themselves, or a group of people from facebook bringing in their conversations here... Regarding merits, I don't think that you have to give each one of them posting "guides" when they see someone posting and you merit the OP... Otherwise everyone would just create their own "guides" and "tips" to earn merit... Snip Snip Most of my reports come from newbie posts in various different sections(patroller), and then the announcement, and tokens sections. Snip
It is because it is easier to spot a bot... @Welsh PM the sub sections i take a look for it if i got the time ! But i cant be everywhere lol ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) We need more reports from boards where you are not reporting right now... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Reports in the Philippines isn't that big that it needs another mod, besides,Dabs is still active... Some of the posters there are probably just talking to themselves, or a group of people from facebook bringing in their conversations here...
Good Day Mr. rickbig41 How can you be so sure that Filipinos are just talking to themselves and bringing their own conversation from social media into the the forum? I do understand that 2 active moderators are enough in moderating our local section, but I think that moderating, moving threads and deleting posts is still not enough to improve our little section. We need cooperation and interactions from our own moderators.
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Merit for Jr. Member and additional merit source has been implemented. I think it's time to add more moderator. Theymos should consider about it since some of moderators inactive and few board have no moderators.
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October 05, 2018, 07:23:05 PM Last edit: October 09, 2018, 05:54:42 AM by Coolcryptovator |
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Bump, I will locked voting and thread tomorrow and I will present result for theymos. Perhaps he could select some of them.
Just leave it same as now. May be it will help admin to choose moderators if need any.
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I think now, after the change and the new restriction the situation is much better. I don't really think new moderators /in the English section at least/ are needed. I think we need more time to see if is still needed.
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Wow - just became aware of this thread and I am honored that I am ranked second behind LoyceV! I feel I am already an unpaid moderator. I leave damning remarks, hand out coveted merit, and get harassed via PM and email for removal or donation of the same, all for no compensation. I would welcome a promotion to Moderator, simply because I have spent five years here helping out for free. (I doubt this poll will have any effect on new moderators...)
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October 09, 2018, 05:54:04 AM |
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I think now, after the change and the new restriction the situation is much better.
I don't really think new moderators /in the English section at least/ are needed. I think we need more time to see if is still needed.
What? How so? Nothing much has changed other than shitposters now need one merit and once they get that it's business as usual (and it's really not hard to get at all whether you buy it or not). Bitcoin Discussion is still a spam fest and people are still shitting up it up 24/7 and that's not going to change anytime soon or until signature campaigns are punished for paying for spam. In the meantime we can add some mods to help clean the place up. Wow - just became aware of this thread and I am honored that I am ranked second behind LoyceV! I feel I am already an unpaid moderator. I leave damning remarks, hand out coveted merit, and get harassed via PM and email for removal or donation of the same, all for no compensation. I would welcome a promotion to Moderator, simply because I have spent five years here helping out for free. (I doubt this poll will have any effect on new moderators...)I thought you'd previously said you didn't want to be a mod? I think some of the long-time users who are reporting loads probably should be made mods as certain people have obviously put in the work and would be beneficial as staff members. More staff members have left than have been added over the years and the forum only continues to grow so we need to meet demand and workload is never ending.
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October 09, 2018, 06:10:13 AM |
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I feel I am already an unpaid moderator. I leave damning remarks, hand out coveted merit, and get harassed via PM and email for removal or donation of the same, all for no compensation. I would welcome a promotion to Moderator, simply because I have spent five years here helping out for free. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I didn't vote for you, because I felt like you can handle yourself just fine leaving red tags. But if you want to be Mod, you have my vote (which I can't change anymore).
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Humans are noble creatures, to be moderators, especially for themselves and become a monderator for others, especially in the Meta Forum. Being a mod means being someone who is full of more responsibility in running the rules of the bitcointalk forum. I say everything has a good chance?Who deserve moderator position based on his/her skill & activity ?You may only select up to 5 options. LoyceV theyoungmillionaire marlboroza suchmoon The Pharmacist Jet Cash TMAN DdmrDdmr Lutpin Vod pugman Piggy actmyname
I assume that a monderator can be said to be an individual with a professional soul and is able to judge other individuals for good purposes for bitcointalk forums that are unidirectional and aligned. A mod must be able to involve himself in the element of diversity of the members whose full responsibility. Now in the case of choosing a monderator, this is certainly very much needed and knows and possesses the nature and character of a professional.For example:1. Intelligence:(Intelligence is a basic factor to determine how well a step is taken by a monderator when dealing with a problem on the bitcointalk forum). 2. Initiative:(initiative means brave when there is a problem in acting, Initiative: self is needed by monderator to achieve tranfaran and professional benefits). 3. Responsible:(meaning it is ready to accept the risk of what is decided that comes from the consequences of the action that has been applied. 4. Character:(the character of this thing certainly comes from how much success the monderator produces in arranging forum members in taking policies and decisions in the forum. Conclusion:Able to sacrifice and willing to plunge into the interests / problems of the Bitcointalk Forum compared to personal goals. I think anyone can choose a new monderator with the character I mentioned above is an idea from me. Maybe there is a better suggestion for another idea to determine the monderator. Greetings compact.
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October 09, 2018, 06:41:49 AM |
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-LoyceV : He is active in gambling section and could be a good choice to be mod there. (site owners making unlimited giveaways and it makes many problems there - new signups just pumping topics)
-Jet Cash , Vod : They both handling helpful projects related to BT .
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I cant be a mod, appreciate the votes but I cannot dedicate the time, I find it hard enough handing out all my merits right now due to all the shitposts.. Also I cant be politically correct so I wouldn't be suited to the role.
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Also I cant be politically correct so I wouldn't be suited to the role. You're wrong here: theymos doesn't require Mods to be politically correct: Politics & Society is trash. People go there, look at a headline, and post a few sentences of their first gut reaction without reading any of the other replies. Who here is up to the task of moderating the section in order to remove this garbage, but without hampering the free exchange of ideas there? It'll be tough, since I do want to hear the thoughts of people who can't speak perfect English, people with extreme/offensive ideas, people who are rude while still making legitimate points, etc. So it'll be a difficult balancing act.
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October 09, 2018, 07:19:49 AM |
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Is there anyway to identify the list of people who have reported most? Because those kind of people were deserved to be mods.
I too already voted for the five persons but still much people not interested in adding the new mods since we have very less votes on the pools.
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