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September 20, 2018, 02:11:00 AM
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Last night I had an hour-long call with Gaku. His team of executives speak mostly Japanese, so he does the interpreting. The company appears to be legit, but of course the only thing we can trust completely is if they actually ship working miners that meet the promised specifications. I’ll share more details soon. I’m hoping to get more info, like a bio, about the stakeholders in the company.

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September 20, 2018, 06:14:17 AM
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They seem very respectful. It's our hope their product is legit. Unfortunately a skype chat won't fill the void of product meeting spec. Hopefully they don't take our decline as an insult but there is no sense in wasting anyone's time. Nov is close, but still far off. Best to navigate well into a market that is seemingly up for grabs. Our buyers will always dictate our positions anyway. 

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September 20, 2018, 08:23:45 AM
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They were really polite and said that they are unfortunately out of demo units.

So most likely I won't be able to a review before it is available in the open market.

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September 20, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
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This is the response I received from them:

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For about the detail information(Specification, Sales schedule, Pricing etc) of our product "KAMIKAZE",
at this moment, we're considering them carefully.

We'd like to appreciate it if you could understand our current situation.

We would keep to make an announcement about our products and project
on our official website and Presses.

 == TRIPLE-1 Official Website ==

http://triple-1.com/en/


So, we hope you keep the attention to our updates.

Again, we appreciate your patience and understanding.
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September 20, 2018, 03:12:07 PM
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here is what I have to say I would have liked to use the gear but so much gear is coming out it just means they will have to wait.

I did videos on the m10  it is great 34.50th at 2340 watts.

Now the m10s will do 55th at 3500 watts not for a home miner but 55th in a small foot print

There are about a dozen unit new this year.

So this promising one will have to wait.  too bad. it could be the best of all.

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September 20, 2018, 05:49:13 PM
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Agreed, looks like great concepts from Triple 1, hopefully we can put our hands on one a little early and build some hype for a new company pending a great physical product.

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September 25, 2018, 06:00:23 AM
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So does anyone have actual info on this?  Release date time frame (I assume November by the information I had read) or more importantly price?  These look fantastic and I would always prefer Japanese work over Chinese manufacturing but if the price is something ridiculous it won't help us much.  I hope we hear some information soon, these is very good news for USA customers as well..
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September 25, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
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We will have also a call with them tomorrow. Lets see of they are legit.

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We will have also a call with them tomorrow. Lets see of they are legit.

Let us know, I have been emailing them back and forth for past 2 days.  Seem very nice and answering questions
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September 26, 2018, 03:32:01 AM
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I just hope this isn't empty promises and actually they put a asic out doing 2000watts at 33th.  That's pretty damn impressive and coming from a japanese company you know it will be made well.
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We had about 45min call with them, guys seems very nice and serious. It seems like currently they are focusing on Japan market and need some more time for sample for international market.
We will update as we know more, maybe we will talk to a japanese friend of ours to reach also out to them and check company in person.

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October 03, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
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I have a call with Gaku next week - I will see if I can get any additional information to add here.

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October 03, 2018, 08:47:08 PM
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This is very interesting and I look forward to any additional information you might be able to get and post here.  I do question the name 'Kamikaze' a bit considering how a Kamikaze's job is supposed to end, but in any event hopeful!  Wink

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October 03, 2018, 10:06:47 PM
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Maybe they mean they will give it their everything, go further than the competition expects before inevitably.... well you know; taking out your whole farm.

Either way I'm guessing it's more a supply issue for them sourcing enough chips, rather than a choice tk limit themselves to a smaller market

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October 04, 2018, 12:08:11 PM
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We had about 45min call with them, guys seems very nice and serious. It seems like currently they are focusing on Japan market and need some more time for sample for international market.
We will update as we know more, maybe we will talk to a japanese friend of ours to reach also out to them and check company in person.

It's been a while since I abandoned mining information and stop aiming this field as the difficulty increase significantly but the price goes down which barely give profits according to the electricity costs, but reading this topic makes me interested.
Honestly, not sure whether mining profitable or not these days, check this.
Eco spec machine: 14.5 TH/s, 750 W power consumption, $0.8 KWh, and 1% pool fee > the results is - $336 (minus), far away from profit.
I check coinwarz calculator but the result doesn't make sense.
However, some members really helping to look for more details, so this thread worth to watch over periodically.
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October 04, 2018, 12:12:28 PM
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It's been a while since I abandoned mining information and stop aiming this field as the difficulty increase significantly but the price goes down which barely give profits according to the electricity costs, but reading this topic makes me interested.
Honestly, not sure whether mining profitable or not these days, check this.
Eco spec machine: 14.5 TH/s, 750 W power consumption, $0.8 KWh, and 1% pool fee > the results is - $336 (minus), far away from profit.
I check coinwarz calculator but the result doesn't make sense.
However, some members really helping to look for more details, so this thread worth to watch over periodically.

who pays $.8 per kw/h?? mine is $.056 with fuel surcharge it is $.086 - still no where near what you stated.  That might be why your results are all negative.

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October 04, 2018, 12:21:52 PM
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who pays $.8 per kw/h?? mine is $.056 with fuel surcharge it is $.086 - still no where near what you stated.  That might be why your results are all negative.

Looks like Rahar misplaced the decimal! At that rate its probably cheaper to run a gasoline generator haha.

My calculation for 1 year revenue with the eco spec machine:
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3% BTC/USD exchange rate increase per month

Hopefully Triple-1's pricing will be reasonable...

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October 04, 2018, 12:32:41 PM
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Hopefully Triple-1's pricing will be reasonable...

that is my hope as well - lately the ASIC's prices almost ensure that ROI is never met unless you have almost zero electric cost.

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that is my hope as well - lately the ASIC's prices almost ensure that ROI is never met unless you have almost zero electric cost.

well this was always the concern  once enough big money with 2-4 cent power gets into the game.

Then killing off all the gpu profits on other coins  with more asics and here we are  you need dirt cheap power to survive.

an s9j  will earn 225 usd in 331 days and it costs 355

an m10 will earn 938 usd in 484 days and it costs 1800

this is done with 3% jumps  5 cent power

but 3% jumps and 4 cent power

s9j       342 in 422 days
m10  1232  in 574 days

going under 4 cent is not easy  .  so based on this  I believe  we will soon see much lower growth  back in 2014 we witness  close to 2% growth in network over a 13 month time period.  not 2% jumps  in a difficulty but 2% in a year.

here is the ltc set of jumps  from may 17 to  oct 1  we are down a lot

hashrate of 261885 gh vs 304,527 gh    over 40 jumps

Difficulty History

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Date.................Difficulty....Change,,,,Hash Rate
Oct 01 2018 9,146,222 2.65% 261,885 GH/s
Sep 28 2018 8,910,079 -3.47% 255,123 GH/s
Sep 24 2018 9,230,764 5.36% 264,306 GH/s
Sep 21 2018 8,760,775 0.74% 250,848 GH/s
Sep 18 2018 8,696,471 -1.17% 249,007 GH/s
Sep 14 2018 8,799,549 0.16% 251,959 GH/s
Sep 11 2018 8,785,275 1.00% 251,550 GH/s
Sep 07 2018 8,697,984 -1.38% 249,050 GH/s
Sep 04 2018 8,819,878 1.53% 252,541 GH/s
Aug 31 2018 8,686,646 -1.40% 248,726 GH/s
Aug 28 2018 8,809,843 0.66% 252,253 GH/s
Aug 24 2018 8,752,406 -0.85% 250,609 GH/s
Aug 21 2018 8,827,455 4.10% 252,758 GH/s
Aug 17 2018 8,479,765 -4.43% 242,802 GH/s
Aug 14 2018 8,873,191 -9.87% 254,067 GH/s
Aug 10 2018 9,845,135 6.81% 281,897 GH/s
Aug 06 2018 9,217,686 1.86% 263,931 GH/s
Aug 03 2018 9,049,638 -10.13% 259,119 GH/s
Jul 30 2018 10,070,201 -3.63% 288,341 GH/s
Jul 26 2018 10,449,981 9.88% 299,216 GH/s
Jul 23 2018 9,510,707 -5.10% 272,321 GH/s
Jul 20 2018 10,021,646 3.39% 286,951 GH/s
Jul 16 2018 9,693,242 4.13% 277,548 GH/s
Jul 13 2018 9,308,365 -3.88% 266,527 GH/s
Jul 09 2018 9,683,851 4.89% 277,279 GH/s
Jul 06 2018 9,232,469 -6.46% 264,354 GH/s
Jul 02 2018 9,869,969 0.99% 282,608 GH/s
Jun 29 2018 9,773,635 -6.54% 279,850 GH/s
Jun 25 2018 10,457,237 -0.93% 299,423 GH/s
Jun 21 2018 10,554,914 -1.22% 302,220 GH/s
Jun 18 2018 10,684,873 -2.90% 305,941 GH/s
Jun 14 2018 11,003,971 0.35% 315,078 GH/s
Jun 11 2018 10,965,232 0.08% 313,969 GH/s
Jun 07 2018 10,956,272 8.26% 313,712 GH/s
Jun 04 2018 10,120,348 -3.16% 289,777 GH/s
May 31 2018 10,450,677 -4.33% 299,235 GH/s
May 28 2018 10,923,291 -3.40% 312,768 GH/s
May 24 2018 11,307,952 6.08% 323,782 GH/s
May 21 2018 10,659,804 0.23% 305,223 GH/s
May 17 2018 10,635,469 2.06% 304,527 GH/s ---- from bitcoinwisdom

I need to find the charts for btc  to show what I mean

Oct 29 2014  we had  309,000 th hash
June 6 2015   we had 301,000 th hash  from blockchain charts

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