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September 14, 2018, 07:45:02 PM
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Recently the idea occurred to me that it might be cool to have a bitcointalk.org YouTube channel. It could contain things such as:
 - Bitcoin information
 - Summaries of recent high-quality posts
 - Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.

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September 14, 2018, 07:51:08 PM
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Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content?

I have already planned for it and created a channel. Here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxUX4m1kFAlKHT2Tq_p5Bng

Note: This is an ongoing project and an approach to experiment the admin's (theymos) proposal of Idea: Courses. I can make mistakes, please feel free to review the tutorial clips and help me to improve the experience for the members in need.


I always believed that a video can tech teach more than writing contents or learning from pictures.

I would appreciate a review on this topic if you have time: Courses [Video Tutorial 1.1.2 - Getting Started with Bitcoin Wallet]

This could be one of many ideas to present the contents.

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September 14, 2018, 07:52:35 PM
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I think it’s a cool idea if it were executed well. Not easy to find the right individual for something like this.

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September 14, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
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- Summaries of recent high-quality posts
Maybe not this. Only the posts made by nullius, achow101 and gmaxwell will end up there.

Recently the idea occurred to me that it might be cool to have a bitcointalk.org YouTube channel. It could contain things such as:
 - Bitcoin information
 - Summaries of recent high-quality posts
 - Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.
Why don't you also add the courses idea with this? A video course is much better than PPT or a document. It'd be easier to find people for this, but it'd be better for you to hire them offline/IRL,since you have a little issues with trust. Be careful though, you might have to spend a little more than what you might think,depending on what content the people make.

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.
It won't,not until moderation becomes strict and tight. Spamming will only become more. There are downsides to his: More spamming, more work for mods, which would lead to more spending. You should focus more on the members who left this place(because they stasrted hating it). New members wouldn't get what bitcoin is for a while,and they would keep asking the same questions again and again.

Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here. If you start youtube, more things would become a "priority" then. First,try getting rid of current issues, this will only add up as a burden to you.

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September 14, 2018, 07:57:46 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2018, 08:09:26 PM by Jrashid
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I think it would be great. People often search in youtube for learning some stuff about bitcoin. Most of the time, they end up with less valueable information while with authorized channel from bitcointalk can really ensure some quality videos which really may help people willing to learn about bitcoin.

I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.

It would be better if you specified a budget. It would help someone to decide.
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September 14, 2018, 08:05:01 PM
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I think it’s a cool idea if it were executed well. Not easy to find the right individual for something like this.

My thoughts exactly!

We'd have to get someone trusted enough to do it who isn't an eth enthusiast (they just push and push and push it onto you)...

I'd suggest leaving out speculation altogether. I think it would be interesting to offer a competition with a small prize to find content (maybe a weekly competition for 0.01 or something would be interesting - and just a fraction of the advertising earnings)...

I hope this is really a good idea but what if I added translation to some languages to keep a group of channels and not a single channel and start to educate deaf and dumb members .....
  I also see if we have some of the important figures in this channel that will attract many who doubt the credibility of this area

I can offer to subtitle the video if that's helpful @Theymos (unless a script is actually used and can just be copied and pasted).

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September 14, 2018, 08:05:37 PM
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...way of attracting good new users...
After all these days it is a bit clear that theymos cares to bring more users (good) in the forum. Anyway, don't you think it will bring you more work where you are already having problems to handle the workload for you and the mods?

You already have a long list (besides accounting) to consider which the members are trying to push you to implement/add/edit. On top of all these, if you bring up another direction then I wonder which one will you take care of? There are several tasks are still pending (may be you are not considering) which could take few minutes to set up and eventually save a lot of time for mods and other members. i.e: a lot of them are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.0

By the way, having a YouTube channel will be a good idea.

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September 14, 2018, 08:22:29 PM
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I think it would be great. People often search in youtube for learning some stuff about bitcoin. Most of the time, they end up with less valueable information while with authorized channel from bitcointalk can really ensure some quality videos which really may help people willing to learn about bitcoin.
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People search youtube to find something about joining bounty campaigns (and spamming the hell out of the forum, just to increase activity...)
There are already several youtubers who do this as a daily job, they make good money with it. They won't be happy to have an official youtube channel for the forum... I hope they won't downvote the official videos, just to make it harder for the competitor channel to start...
Of course, it would be an advantage for the new youtube channel that it's the official channel, so it would be more trustable, reliable, etc... But because it's an official channel, you should be really cautious with the content... Existing youtubers' videos are sometimes seems like a bit clickbait for me (although it works for them), but an official channel can't do that, so it have to be a bit less interesting and more technical/official/etc...
But why not to give it a try? We'll see...

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September 14, 2018, 08:29:39 PM
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If you're looking for an established youtuber, Doug Polk Crypto is the perfect guy you're looking for, IMO.

He occasionally features the forum on some of his videos, and they are quite entertaining. From having a good camera presence to video editing and script writing, he has it all.

BTW, I hope that bitcointalk twitter will also be more active once you established a youtube channel.

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September 14, 2018, 08:31:17 PM
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I think it’s a cool idea if it were executed well. Not easy to find the right individual for something like this.

That's the big challenge IMO.  It will take a lot more than 1 right individual.

I think it would be pretty awesome to have a BTCT channel but it would be a significant job for even 3-4 people to do a weekly vid.  I think fresh content is pretty important.

Covering such a wide topic as this forum is going to be a lot of work, a lot of "data" to manually sift through to get relevant topics to discuss.

How long of a video do you envision? 10 mins a week, 30, 60?
Are you thinking just like a news cast style or something more organic and fun?

I've been talking to a lot of crypto tubers recently and they are all hungry for work and set up to do this type of thing perhaps a weekly budget for someone already doing this might be a consideration?

On a side note would you consider a sub board somewhere for YouTuber discussion.  There are thousands of crypto tubers and a board where we could discuss our favourite YouTubers and their content would be cool.

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September 14, 2018, 08:46:34 PM
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It won't,not until moderation becomes strict and tight. Spamming will only become more. There are downsides to his: More spamming, more work for mods, which would lead to more spending. You should focus more on the members who left this place(because they stasrted hating it). New members wouldn't get what bitcoin is for a while,and they would keep asking the same questions again and again.

Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here. If you start youtube, more things would become a "priority" then. First,try getting rid of current issues, this will only add up as a burden to you.

It works for 4chan and that places is a cesspool no better than bitcointalk..
Not an official channel that I know of but a lot of videos about what goes on there..

I think spammers come from people searching how to make money online..
People searching for bitcoin on youtube may not all be the type to spend countless hours spamming and chasing bounties for a few satoshis. They likely have lives, atleast somewhat, and would mostly reach English speakers..

I think it would be great along with a strong welcome message including a disclaimer of the pitfalls and perils real "interested in bitcoin" newbs could face here..


Answering questions about how to use bitcoin, how bitcoin works, how to follow your transactions in a block explorer, stuff like that, is a whole lot better than all the questions about how to get merit so they can make more money spamming, questions about bounties and "earning" etc..

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September 14, 2018, 08:54:36 PM
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To do something like that i would rather use vimeo. It's just a better and professional platform for everything that concern company and organizations.

They have also completely different kind of audiences, perhaps the right one for what you are trying to make
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September 14, 2018, 09:00:35 PM
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The idea is good. However only educational content should be used, in my opinion. Otherwise, the channel could face criticism for biased contents. Also, don't forget that Youtube isn't a platform you have a full control over it, you can expect to see someone trying to hijack the channel.

If you're really interested with video content for the community, why not host it yourself with the forum ( a subdomain for example or a video board here)

As for the funds, why not make it based on volunteering. If someone is interested to make videos for the community it should make it without any incentive.

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September 14, 2018, 09:01:00 PM
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A YouTube channel would be nice and great for advert and Info from the Forum.

But that would bring a lot of work too for the people there are doing that , sure i guess there are a lot of Youtuber in the Forum here they would doing  that!

My personal opinion about it is a good idea, but I believe the other things in the forum might be more important
- Spam / Bots / Bot Accounts
- Registration for new users (possibly to do something against bots)
- Maybe more mods to support the current mods
- Recover hacked accounts if that's true

A clean, pleasant forum I think would help many users to feel comfortable!

But that is just my personal opinion
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September 14, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
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Given the number of threads in Meta over the last few days/weeks/months complaining about the state of the forum, the ridiculous levels of bounty spam, asking for more mods and suggesting about 100 other ideas for improvement, would it not be wise to focus on the forum first before taking on a new project?

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September 14, 2018, 09:36:01 PM
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Given the number of threads in Meta over the last few days/weeks/months complaining about the state of the forum, the ridiculous levels of bounty spam, asking for more mods and suggesting about 100 other ideas for improvement, would it not be wise to focus on the forum first before taking on a new project?

Maybe Theymos wants to keep the forum more libertarian and wild west anarchic than what a lot of people calling for, quite authoritarian action at times..

He just made a huge move with the merit system, which is done in quite a good distributed way in my opinion, and hasn't even taken full effect yet.
Maybe he doesn't want to hand people more ultimate authoritarian power over others, such as powerful mods to wield their banhammers at their discretion, like many are calling for..

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Yeah their is a subset of members that hang out around meta, most with the best of intentions.. They all have the merits and DT trust and mod power and all the goodies..
They are trying to do good but not everyone completely believes in the same principles that they do, the ways of going about things..

It is pretty obvious to me that Theymos is trying to give the power to the community in a distributed manner through the trust system and now merit system.. It might not be perfect but nothing is perfect..


Theymos, being an OG crypto cypherpunk kind of guy, it occurs to me that he likely has some different ideals than those trying to find solutions to the problems via power and control..

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September 14, 2018, 09:45:14 PM
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It’s a kind of move that could go in any direction as a result. We’re used to seeing how corporate, brand and personal videos are dissected by others on a daily basis, so that is a lateral risk to consider. Above that, a faceless text entity such as Bitcointalk would be represented by someone on camera, so despite the boldness of the move, the visual image of Bitcointalk needs to be chosen really well. I don’t think mercenary utubers would be a good option at all for example.

Weekly content would likely be necessary, and that does not come cheap and would require quite some dedication both from the production side and the management side.

Note: I’m not sure about the legality constrains on creating videos based on forum content. Even with good faith, you’ll find people who will go out of their depth for some extra bucks.

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September 14, 2018, 09:52:12 PM
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Maybe dont include on youtube channel about making money here on bitcointalk this may lead to newbies get along here and make themselves as a spammers.

Given the number of threads in Meta over the last few days/weeks/months complaining about the state of the forum, the ridiculous levels of bounty spam, asking for more mods and suggesting about 100 other ideas for improvement, would it not be wise to focus on the forum first before taking on a new project?
I agree with this, maybe this move is better than a youtube channel to clean the forum while its early.
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September 14, 2018, 10:09:43 PM
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Tying into the courses idea with the youtube channel would be a decent idea. I don't know whether a summary of good quality posts would be that beneficial, and something people would watch. Maybe, I don't know. Latest news could be something to go by. What would of been cool is a changelog, and video diary of the development of the new forum software.

Anyway, another grand idea. Who's gong to run it though?

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September 14, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
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I like this idea.  It feels like it would give the forum the opportunity to once again highlight useful information. The bonus being it wouldn't be drowned out by low quality useless information. ( More so than youtube already is)

- Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump

Any news that follows this format is a benefit and a plus IMO.

More potential content:
Q &A's with members who are interested.(anonymity optional)
History lesson - collectibles, notable events.

My one question without being a judge in what is or is not a scam attempt. Would this channel be open to bitcoin safe practices, and how to avoid being scammed. This would fall under a newbie welcome of sorts and go beyond the typical "protect your private keys".

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