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September 17, 2018, 04:16:30 AM
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I think they also want to keep prices of the projects that they find promising low.
So that they can buy more and buy a lot. 2, 3 years later they will sell and make millions.

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September 17, 2018, 04:30:42 AM
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I think all trader and investor are manipulators.  Yeah all of us actually are manipulators but with different level.
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September 17, 2018, 04:40:07 AM
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One of the major aims of manipulators is to ensures that price drops and thus buy massively at low all these is done to achieve their personal gain and profits to the detriment of other hodlers, and this had been discouraging potential investors due to the uncertainty of the market and instability of the price at the of  manipulation.
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September 17, 2018, 06:35:58 AM
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we are getting fooled by this manipulators and stuff about them, if we are to study more about the trend in the past week, the graphs are jumping up and down like crazy, what if there was no manipulators, what if the manipulators that we are talking about is us, remember, we are graph-based, what we see in the graph are the movement done by the very trader or user ourselves. this manipulating thingy adds up to the trend that creates panic and mass selling among other traders.

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September 17, 2018, 08:09:18 AM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

If hodler not panic with negatives news and fake news, i am believe manipulator can not do anything. Manipulator can be success on their work if hodler panic and selling their coin with cheap price. They just want buying crypto with cheaper price and after that they will make big profits from it
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September 17, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

If hodler not panic with negatives news and fake news, i am believe manipulator can not do anything. Manipulator can be success on their work if hodler panic and selling their coin with cheap price. They just want buying crypto with cheaper price and after that they will make big profits from it
manipulator always trying hard to make all people panic, especially new investor that did not understand market cylce.their purpose to do this  was only to get cheapest price as they can.
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September 17, 2018, 08:48:13 AM
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I think the manipulator want to make a price pattern to confused people that it is its trend then suddenly if they will find the right time then maybe it would give a huge surprise for them.

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September 17, 2018, 08:52:13 AM
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Of course money. They want that they could earn money the way exactly as you have said. I just don't know how these things could happen because if you are going to look at how the market is really going up or down matters. People unlike before are now so hesitant to go on investing maybe they have matured enough in terms of investing and this could be seen by the way market falls so hard as of now.

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September 17, 2018, 09:17:56 AM
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Some sources claim that sharks are manipulating the bitcoin market as well as cryptocurrency and that someone has had a big impact on the bitcoin market.
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September 17, 2018, 09:28:30 AM
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Pretty much true and these manipulators are no one but the private investors to whom we also call as big whales. They mostly have the volume in their control because they have huge loads of coins or either money in their pocket and both of these can be used to drive the market in the right direction for their own benefits. When we see their benefit then its the general investors who get robbed in reality. For example, whales might just dump huge load and thus lower the values of the currency and in turn it may happen that you will sell your last dime in the hope that you will recover your losses but at the same time a whale is happy person who thinks he is buying at cheapest rates. This is how everything here works.

 
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September 17, 2018, 09:50:00 AM
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I think all trader and investor are manipulators.  Yeah all of us actually are manipulators but with different level.
I don't think so, you can search about manipulator correctly.

Manipulator has a lot of money in their wallet, so as if they decide to buy or sell and then will affected to market state.

Unlikely, if a trader who have a little money and then what they have done won't affect to market state.

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September 17, 2018, 09:52:27 AM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

This is one of the truths. Most of these whales just want to buy and let people panic sell. Such a great policy of capitalism we have indeed, even here in crypto market. How can we really avoid these kind of things when even the Top 1 Coin on CoinMarketCap is being manipulated to manipulate all other coins? I would really not like this thing but they say that are just 'regular occurences' but I don't think its a 'regular' coincidence for this year.
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September 17, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
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Of course they want to make a profit. If they have enough crypto coins to provide it, they are moving. If you have enough coins in your hand, you can manipulate its price. It would be great if there were some news.



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September 17, 2018, 10:06:29 AM
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Of course they want to make a profit. If they have enough crypto coins to provide it, they are moving. If you have enough coins in your hand, you can manipulate its price. It would be great if there were some news.
profit is their main goal, with the coins you have, you can manipulate prices, as you say, reading a lot of news will be better, because you will know where the market is bad and good
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September 18, 2018, 04:33:14 AM
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I will try to think positively, I hope manipulators reduce asset prices aiming to get small investors like me and after getting small investors at the lowest prices the manipulators raise prices.
Well, that depends on how smart the smaller investors are, but as crazy as it sounds, small investors are always the ones who panic easily rather than buying the dips, and then when the market is in a state where it keeps going up, they start buying instead and joining FOMO in the process. The market is highly speculative and there is no doubt about that, which would always make it easy for the manipulators, but it is always better to know that irrespective of these manipulations, the future is still intact and that is what you should be placing your focus on.

Making traders feel uncertainty is the essence at which the manipulation comes into play in the first place. More like trying to scare away the weak hands in the market to dump so they can buy a whole lot lower, or at the same time, trying to instigate FOMO so that some greedy investors who want to get rich overnight will hop into the front of the moving train and then squash their hope.

All is about the whales making profit over emotions in the market and with the crypto market that is decentralized, it just make that seems so easy.

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September 18, 2018, 06:21:25 AM
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I have watch some altcoins order books which I trade, It makes me scared and at times will have to spend 3 hrs monitoring the market. They will bring on a fake sell order for you to think the market is going to dump real bad, immediately you sell out of fear for the hope of buying high, boom that is it, the market pumps. Other times, they set fake buy orders in several prices and one will think, wow! is going to shoot up real well, but after a  while when buy volumes are enough to take profit, they offload, and there you go, they just took the profit. I have learnt never to follow the whales, when I get suspicious I stay off the market holding my bitcoin till the market is settled. Manipulators are dangerous in this space. Although they are found everywhere.
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September 18, 2018, 06:28:07 AM
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they want personal gain. by selling all the assets they have when prices rise, they get big profits and then the price is dumped. they buy again when the price is cheap in large quantities, and make the price back at the pump and they sell it again.

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September 18, 2018, 06:33:17 AM
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I believe that the current drop in prices will only benefit the market in the long term. The hype of last year only attracted a huge number of scammers and brought turmoil to the market. I think after this year the situation will stabilize.
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September 18, 2018, 06:42:45 AM
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yes you are right about your idea of these manipulators if there is, but at some point they believe in the future of cryptocurrencies that is why they keep on coming back as soon as the price drops and volumes thins

I don't even believe that manipulators would be doing whatever they are doing because they believe in cryptocurrency or that, they are already manipulating because they believe in it. I think it is just a business idea for them which is necessitated by also hodling a or some coins, or having other interest in cryptocurrency.

They want to make money from cryptocurrency not only by investing but also by raising some level of panic to catch on such advantage.

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September 18, 2018, 06:46:16 AM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

Manipulators are obviously making the price of cryptocurrency to drop even more in order for them to invest a huge amount, that is the reason you should not sell your coins today.
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