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September 18, 2018, 06:56:30 AM
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The manipulators take advantage of the good mind of the little investors to make money.  Manipulators are the people that are destroyed this market and we need to understand there way in other to be able to play this game with them.
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September 18, 2018, 07:09:57 AM
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I think that now there is a reverse effect after the hype in the past year. It is unknown how this will affect the market as a whole, but I hope that there will not be so many scammers.

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September 18, 2018, 07:32:32 AM
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The main thing that drives the players of the Crypto market/manipulators  to manipulate bitcoin prices is to obtain large amounts of Bitcoin. For most people, it is clear that the bitcoin market is at least controlled by two market participants and we can call it an evil actor. A study found that at least 600,000 bitcoin (BTC) worth $ 188 million was obtained incorrectly. This caused an unprecedented USD-BTC rate hike.
 
This market manipulation can be anticipated if bitcoin is considered a serious matter by the government as in Japan, legalize the existence of Crypto currency. There must be rules to be able to improve security even though we know that in principle Crypto is decentralized.

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September 18, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.
Yes they want to be the ones that are controlling the market and they also want to be the ones that are making the huge profit. This is just like in the real world politics, our leaders wants to continue to be the leaders like forever and they keep on deceiving us and stealing from us they never want to come down for the youths to get in, rather they remain there till they die lol. Well, I just wish there is a way we can get rid of these price manipulators.
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September 18, 2018, 01:16:37 PM
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Nothings new with the concern since its a hopeless case about the manipulation that is happening long time ago but getting worst as time passes by.

I love your motive here to awaken the weak handed people and the panicking investors for not to give consent the manipulators to play the market and help the people boost morals for holding in time of dip
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September 18, 2018, 02:17:49 PM
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Manipulators are investors who are always targeting more earnings because they are people who control the market. These investors, who have an effective power on the market with their consistently high capital, generally want to create uncertainty by creating fluctuations in the market. Especially those who are actively trading to reduce prices are those who aim to make new investments at a lower price with a new wave of panic. For that reason, these traps that people do not fall into this trap and falling into this trap is a mistake that we should not all do.
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September 18, 2018, 02:35:18 PM
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As the great investor Warren Buffett says, "Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful". The big whales and institutional investors are aware of the fact that market is still immature and hence they can manipulate in a way they want to earn maximum profit from the situation arising from it. The possibility of making a maximum profit is the only want of the manipulators.
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September 18, 2018, 03:03:20 PM
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What they simply want is to always play with the minds of the gullible ones and make them lose for them to gain. Unfortunately,  due to lack of knowledge and speculative environment it makes it easy for the gullible ones to fall prey and for the whales to always see an opportunity to keep manipulating. This is the reason why real life usage rather than having speculative assets in our hands is the best way to go.

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September 18, 2018, 04:34:47 PM
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Most probably all are up for a show and a bull trap, when everyone see that it's rising many will buy and trap on that price as whales are pulling it on the floor. So people poorly hang on fhe ceiling and planning to jump and kill their selves. So as much as possible don't give your money to whales as they love to see us crying.
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September 19, 2018, 01:33:01 PM
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Your point of view is totally different. Manipulators just want to promote panic selling by spreading FUD in the market so that they could buy coins at a much cheaper price and sell it when the price rises. And they don't want to lessen the volume of investors to control the market.

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September 19, 2018, 03:33:16 PM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

In my view these manipulators only work by creating triggers so that they really do not control prices as a whole and at certain points, they only make FUDs at a certain time, then let the market go down until it passes the expected point, after which they also have taken step, they prepare good info to raise prices again

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September 19, 2018, 04:14:00 PM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.
You have just stated the functioning of whales, and I guess that by now almost everyone understands how this market works
So, in future, even if the market gets too high, do not get very positive, and it is better to sell your investments after earning a fair bit of profit. Being greedy will hurt you more than anything else here. Only the smart one wins.
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September 19, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

In my view these manipulators only work by creating triggers so that they really do not control prices as a whole and at certain points, they only make FUDs at a certain time, then let the market go down until it passes the expected point, after which they also have taken step, they prepare good info to raise prices again

The manipulators may not actually be able to affect the market as much
as we think but they are able to take advantage of the FOMO and FUD in
the markets at certain times.

Its like skilled traders, to be able to react to movements and forsee what
will happen. Timing is everything.

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September 19, 2018, 10:40:10 PM
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They clearly don't want to completely destroy the market, as that would have happened a long time ago. I doubt that we are actually seeing major price manipulation, the volume hitting exchanges simply isn't enough to account for the changes in valuation that we have seen. People attribute any mass movements to whales and market manipulators, when in fact it could just be generic trade volume.
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September 19, 2018, 10:51:25 PM
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Things changed, and now there are many intervenants that affect this market.

The cryptocurrencies market became so huge lately in a way that it is almost impossible to control it or manipulate it by few "manipulators".

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September 19, 2018, 11:35:29 PM
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The manipulators take advantage of the good mind of the little investors to make money.  Manipulators are the people that are destroyed this market and we need to understand there way in other to be able to play this game with them.
Yeah, newbies are the most affected by that move of every manipulators. We should really ride the train with them and we should know their movements. Manipulators really want to make big money, that is too much greed for them but we don't need to be scared, we just need to learn their strategies and we will have a good profit in the future like them.
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September 19, 2018, 11:40:00 PM
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the manipulators use the momentum of every good news about crypto to take profits
when that happens they buy in
and after getting a profit of around 5 - 20% of what they invest, they immediately sell off
and of course manipulators are people who have a lot of money (whale)

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September 20, 2018, 03:12:45 AM
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Things changed, and now there are many intervenants that affect this market.

The cryptocurrencies market became so huge lately in a way that it is almost impossible to control it or manipulate it by few "manipulators".

except for those manipulators joining to control it. but by looking at such conditions, i think the influence of the news is greater, they must create fomo or fud simultaneously to achieve the desired
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September 20, 2018, 03:30:03 AM
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If the definition of the manipulator is a trader or an influencer, I agrees with your opinion. Clearly, they try to control the market favorably for themselves, and they are shedding various news. And in order to invest a huge amount of money I try to further lower the price of cryptic infringement.
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September 20, 2018, 04:54:16 AM
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the manipulators use the momentum of every good news about crypto to take profits
when that happens they buy in
and after getting a profit of around 5 - 20% of what they invest, they immediately sell off
and of course manipulators are people who have a lot of money (whale)
They also create news that can affect the market easily. They will sell some of their holdings and wait for the people to panic, so the price will continue to dump and when they reach the bottom price, they will pump the market and of course they will take profit. Manipulators wants to continue to increase their  money so they will manipulate the market in order for them to achieve it.
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