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September 20, 2018, 05:09:00 AM
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Why do you think this is manipulation? this is a social media effect that creates FOMO and FUD, like in the picture beside, many people believe that. Waves up and down the floor are commonplace for traders it is easy to overcome that, their trading psychology is strong.

If you doubt the market is wrong, you understand each market has its value but why are they almost the same? because there are many traders who do arbitrage and they race for it.


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September 20, 2018, 05:32:48 AM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.
The two main points of investigation for investigation are fraud and trade laundering. Fraud refers to flooding the market with fake orders, deceiving other traders in the process while washing trades involves making fake volumes that overstate the market. Both of these malpractices raise prices in the direction desired by the manipulator.
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September 20, 2018, 06:39:50 AM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

Manipulators are obviously making the price of cryptocurrency to drop even more in order for them to invest a huge amount, that is the reason you should not sell your coins today.

Yes, they want to make you sell all the cryptocurrencies now when they are cheap. They plan to buy the cryptos for the lowest prices and make millions on it later.
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September 20, 2018, 07:22:09 AM
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Since there are markets, there are manipulators, these two go together. Strong players manipulate the prices and the news that go in their favor, both as FUD or false good ones. Of course, this is not exactly a commendable skill, but a reality. What do they want? Control over the market and big earnings. Simply as that.
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September 20, 2018, 01:04:11 PM
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Why do you think this is manipulation? this is a social media effect that creates FOMO and FUD, like in the picture beside, many people believe that. Waves up and down the floor are commonplace for traders it is easy to overcome that, their trading psychology is strong.

If you doubt the market is wrong, you understand each market has its value but why are they almost the same? because there are many traders who do arbitrage and they race for it.


Whether it is social media effect or whatever it is that the mainstream media brings to the table, it is all still fuelled by manipulators anyway. There are manipulators in every market and they are also considered as whales since they hold a large position. FOMO and FUD is one thing you will certainly see in every market, and that is why it is always easy for them to drive the price the way they believe the market will respond quickly to. We need real life usage as this can only be the main solution. This is a decentralized space, and manipulation obviously is going to always be easy, most especially since there is no regulation of some sort.
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September 20, 2018, 01:40:18 PM
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What ever they do, the only objective of the people, no mather the consequence, is to gain money, value and power to manipulate the environment. Unfortunately the .manipulator have a vision of singularity. All we can do, the small people, is to hope that they make the right decision when they start manipulating.
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September 22, 2018, 07:39:13 AM
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I believe that the current drop in prices will only benefit the market in the long term. The hype of last year only attracted a huge number of scammers and brought turmoil to the market. I think after this year the situation will stabilize.
This is not basically all about scammers, even though we could say they may be responsible for some of the dump in the market, but that huge correction was inevitable and nothing we could have avoided.

A lot of people did not see reasons last year when the market was soaring very high, puncturing skies, with nothing driving it than speculation, but as long as we are making profit, people tend to forget the implications for those who bought into FOMO which is what we are having now and whales are usually the ones who instigates these movements.
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September 22, 2018, 10:02:20 AM
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they want personal gain. by selling all the assets they have when prices rise, they get big profits and then the price is dumped. they buy again when the price is cheap in large quantities, and make the price back at the pump and they sell it again.
Apparently, everyone wants gain but how you do it to get the gain is what makes the whales different here. Whales do not trade like we do; they trade people's emotion on the chart. They know when they should be getting in and when they should be scaring people out and all these is usually a rinse and repeat process for them.

The thing here is that, they are more like the market makers and since they have a lot of money to play around with and most especially in a speculative market, it even makes the whole process an easy one for them.
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September 22, 2018, 01:35:25 PM
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Manipulators love stressing small investors and only want their hard earned investments as cheap as possible. I also experience panic selling during my early days in crypto but I regret that moves. Hopefully this time I'm making the right steps and never get rekt again.
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September 22, 2018, 01:47:01 PM
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Manipulators always want to gain profits. They fear the small investors buy reversing the market trend. Those buyers or sellers who can't read market charts or predict the right time of entry then they are trapped in the market. Most of the time, manipulators are waiting for the bull run market and hype it according what they really know the best for them.
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September 24, 2018, 09:53:24 AM
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I think manipulators just want to buy the coins for cheaper and more cheaper price. They are greedy people, who know how to push the price up or down when they want and they don't care if they ruin little people lives and they just empty other people pockets.
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September 24, 2018, 10:18:14 AM
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If the definition of the manipulator is a trader or an influencer, I agrees with your opinion. Clearly, they try to control the market favorably for themselves, and they are shedding various news. And in order to invest a huge amount of money I try to further lower the price of cryptic infringement.
It is just exactly what anyone would want if he is a whale. The simple fact is that they want to always find a scape goat in the market they can feed on, and that is one thing about them, as they are the market makers anyway. They have the resources, the funds to be able to hold up a market in a way they want it, make people believe what they want them to believe and then, they strike whenever they feel like while those who are just pup petting around, tend to be the scape goat in this scenario.

They want to control the price movement of each coin so that they can make profit in it. They're not fair because they can dump and pump the price they want. That is the reason why SEC don't want to approve BtC because of the manipulation.
The reason why controlling the price movement is so easy anyway is because the market generally is highly speculative, we have a lot of not so experienced traders since it is a market easily available to all, and then no matter what, there is always someone to take the bait. I would not say that is not fair, I would rather just say, it is a greedy way of them trying to make more money. Still, this is the main reason why real life usage is necessary globally, and that is the only way we can be able to see the manipulations subside.
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September 24, 2018, 10:23:52 AM
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If the definition of the manipulator is a trader or an influencer, I agrees with your opinion. Clearly, they try to control the market favorably for themselves, and they are shedding various news. And in order to invest a huge amount of money I try to further lower the price of cryptic infringement.
Trader I doubt can control the market, it is only the big whales whether a individual or the group which comes together and buy/sell which will effect the market. Small traders or investors doe snot constituent a huge change in the price if you want to see that.

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September 24, 2018, 12:05:20 PM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

If hodler not panic with negatives news and fake news, i am believe manipulator can not do anything. Manipulator can be success on their work if hodler panic and selling their coin with cheap price. They just want buying crypto with cheaper price and after that they will make big profits from it
manipulator always trying hard to make all people panic, especially new investor that did not understand market cylce.their purpose to do this  was only to get cheapest price as they can.
Yes they manipulate crypto price because they want people panic and sell their coins so manipulators will buy coins as much as they want. I think the current condition is not just make people panic but it also can be causes people loss their interest to crypto, if that happen it will make crypto enthusiasts continue to decrease.
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September 24, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
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they want personal gain. by selling all the assets they have when prices rise, they get big profits and then the price is dumped. they buy again when the price is cheap in large quantities, and make the price back at the pump and they sell it again.
Apparently, everyone wants gain but how you do it to get the gain is what makes the whales different here. Whales do not trade like we do; they trade people's emotion on the chart. They know when they should be getting in and when they should be scaring people out and all these is usually a rinse and repeat process for them.

The thing here is that, they are more like the market makers and since they have a lot of money to play around with and most especially in a speculative market, it even makes the whole process an easy one for them.
Whales have a one step ahead in the markets, we shouldn't doubting the experience they have. The low market cap cryptocurrencies markets has and combined with a lot of inexperienced traders make them a beast to control the market.
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September 24, 2018, 01:02:41 PM
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Its simple they want to control the market and ultimately looking to make money,but we are the one wh let us the manipulators to do their work if we are not trusting the cryptos or the bitcoin then it will be better to completely quit from the cryptos other than just dumping and bumping their coin and involved in panic selling and buying.
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September 24, 2018, 01:02:55 PM
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I agree that there are people who have a very large amount of coins, but I do not think that they greatly affect the market!
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September 24, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
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Its simple they want to control the market and ultimately looking to make money,but we are the one wh let us the manipulators to do their work if we are not trusting the cryptos or the bitcoin then it will be better to completely quit from the cryptos other than just dumping and bumping their coin and involved in panic selling and buying.
right, basically they want to make a big profit, by manipulating prices. but with increasing number of bitcoiners, they provide feedback and are then forwarded to positive or negative news, according to their goals
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September 24, 2018, 01:42:56 PM
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The main goal of manipulators is to make so that a lot of people buy bitcoin, the more people enter the project, the faster the price will start to grow.
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September 26, 2018, 01:33:53 PM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

That's true, Manipulator loves to see a big depth from the market cap. because they can control the price of bitcoin by holding huge amount of bitcoin. Then all of the sadden they will sell it and when they notice that a lot of people get on their trap they will buy it again and hold for the long time that how manipilator always do.
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