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October 06, 2018, 03:11:52 PM
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First of all, I don't believe that someone who has millions and millions of liquid cash would sit around and watch the screen and look at the trends of crypto currency and pump it then sell it only to earn cents to the dollar. But there was, I'd think they would want to maintain the volatility of the market because that is where they earn.
Well, just as you have said, they will want to maintain the volatility of the market as you keep seeing it, and trust me most of what you see sometimes is bots at work, and they really do not have to sit on the chart all day.

Moreover, what whales do is emotional analysis. They look at the price zone where people are beginning to get greedy and they dump, and in this case, you will see some who really got into the market for the wrong reasons, panicking and trying to quickly bail out at loss, and these are the people that they target most of the time, and one of the reason why the only way this can be curbed is when we start seeing real life usage.
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October 06, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
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Manipulators want to control the market in order to gain more. We all know that dips make some investors mostly new investors panic that results for them to sell their coins and tokens and exit the market. This is what manipulators want to happen that's why they control the market.
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October 06, 2018, 06:55:41 PM
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The manipulation can only affect chicken-hearted investors  that does not have proper orientation of the coin market behaviour. I am holding the my bitcoin tight no matter the manipulations.

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October 06, 2018, 07:31:46 PM
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The manipulation can only affect chicken-hearted investors  that does not have proper orientation of the coin market behaviour. I am holding the my bitcoin tight no matter the manipulations.
For the manipulators and those spread FUD with regards to bitcoins and cryptos, their motives when is all about making people sell their coins so that they can buy it for a low price and gain immense profits when it rises again.
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October 06, 2018, 08:19:36 PM
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I don't allow the market trends to influence my selling off at any given time. The best I do when the markets dips is to hodl. I do wish most persons do have this same experience which could help resuscitate the market price.

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October 06, 2018, 08:26:12 PM
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but I tried to hold many times and thought the same way and as everyone sells you have no other choice because by doing so I am in a loss of 3x and more in 3 coins, so it is better to follow the flow.

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October 06, 2018, 09:27:31 PM
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I think that it is pretty obvious that manipultors want just more money for themselves and that's all, I'm sure that they exist and highly affect current market situation.

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October 06, 2018, 11:55:51 PM
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In my own point of view, cryptocurrency manipulators just wanted to make the market looks so bad giving fears to others that will push them to sell their crypto holdings. Once these manipulators see that the market is so down, they will also buy again at a huge volume of cryptos whatever they want.

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October 07, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
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There are no "manipulators", there are simply big players who have the opportunity to influence the market, and obviously take advantage of it.
If we were able, we would do it too.
For what concerns us, we can only try to understand in which direction the "manipulator" will move the market, and go after it.

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October 07, 2018, 05:11:41 PM
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There are no "manipulators", there are simply big players who have the opportunity to influence the market, and obviously take advantage of it.
If we were able, we would do it too.
For what concerns us, we can only try to understand in which direction the "manipulator" will move the market, and go after it.

Yeah, I'm telling the same thing here. Even though there can be some price manipulations going on but they are rather local and can't affect prices significantly, let alone change the overall long-term trend. Pump&dump contrivances are common for small altcoins though, where it is easy to influence the market with a minimum of funds. With bitcoin it would be very expensive and not in the least guaranteed to succeed unless we are speaking about specific moments (so-called tipping points aka pivots) when however small disturbances can cause very dramatic and lasting changes. But these moments are rare and far in between and will happen on their own sooner or later even without a directed pull.
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October 07, 2018, 05:54:21 PM
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Manipulator want? To have more panic seller or those weak in holding because they think that they have loose their investments.
Manipulators having different strategies on how to manipulate the market price, they keep spreading FUD news and pay those broadcasters just to spread negative feedback to the social media that makes people panic and sell. In my own, whatever happens in the market I still no doubt with bitcoin (cryptos).
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October 07, 2018, 06:14:41 PM
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I think these manipulators might have the desire to make a lot of traders panic because I think if these price manipulators are sure there are people who want to try to control and control the place of price movements in the exchange place, the more often the price is made like this I'm sure there will be many traders panic and loss so that many victims will come out of the exchange place so that the volume at the exchange place begins to decrease.
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October 07, 2018, 08:15:30 PM
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When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.
You've got a point here - indeed, trading is very much dependent on the volumes.
One of the coins I got from bounty is not even rated on coinmarketcap because there are not enough trading volumes, which should be around $100k daily. This bounty, by the way, really "cut my dreams" - after ICO its price dropped like 25 times by the way bounty hunters got their rewards..

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October 07, 2018, 08:28:17 PM
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this is one of the causes of what I convince, I always hold the coins I have bought. even though the price of the coin has been destroyed. and I always believe that this manipulation factor is very strong. and this will make prices able to return to the top after they have taken control of the market volume, this happens every year, when the price of the kion falls very steeply, we don't need to worry because the price will definitely recover
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October 07, 2018, 08:31:54 PM
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I think that people just want to have more Bitcoins, more than anyone so they will control all market. They just want to drop the price and buy more and more. Then they will pump it... I hope Cheesy
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October 07, 2018, 09:10:44 PM
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There are no "manipulators", there are simply big players who have the opportunity to influence the market, and obviously take advantage of it.
If we were able, we would do it too.
For what concerns us, we can only try to understand in which direction the "manipulator" will move the market, and go after it.

Agreed! But, people call them manipulators as they are trying to control the market by dragging people's emotion with how the price behaves relatively. Neverthless, these big players can only influence the market with the great number og asset in their possesion. Putting their money in and out of the market may have a minor impact, but there has no full control in price manipulation yet, not unless if the normal investors follows the market trend.

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October 07, 2018, 10:31:27 PM
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I think these manipulators might have the desire to make a lot of traders panic because I think if these price manipulators are sure there are people who want to try to control and control the place of price movements in the exchange place, the more often the price is made like this I'm sure there will be many traders panic and loss so that many victims will come out of the exchange place so that the volume at the exchange place begins to decrease.
The cryptocurrency market is affected and manipulated by so many wealthy investors. If you enter the cryptocurrency market long enough, you will feel the market is dominated by a small trading volume. So I advise investors to choose coins that have a larger trading volume so that they are not dominated by speculators.

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October 08, 2018, 12:37:39 AM
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Manipulators always want to get cheap price and make big profits from market movement. They always get that by make market panic and creating chaos in market. Thats why we should not panic about market condition and better to hold our investment for long term

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October 08, 2018, 05:59:39 AM
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The market is full of manipulators,their wish is to get the profit as much as possible,so they will used any ways to get their profit, it's really important to always do research before sell or buy, don't fall into the manipulators trap, always keep calm and try to take decision with a clear mind,don't become panic once the price fall down


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October 08, 2018, 06:17:14 AM
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Crypto market manipulators are motivated by one factor- the desire to make profit at the expense of others, they are usually whales with so much influence and have the resources to create tension or panic in the market because they know people starrt making irrational decisions when that happens, they can then buy lower and sell when the fears are gone

It is mot only the manipulators who wanted for it to happen, the people who are experts or those who are veteran with this kind of stuffs wanted it to. But then we can say that manipulators want to get more and more coin or to generate more profit. They have the goal of making money.
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