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November 01, 2011, 07:40:52 PM
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As in: "The idea of cold fusion is bolonga" or "Oh, bologna! There is no way you could do a push up in space."

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November 01, 2011, 08:02:56 PM
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What's wrong with Bologna?
The word is only used disparagingly in some parts of the world, so you may not know it. In other places, people might say instead "What a load of Baloney". The meaning is the same.
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November 02, 2011, 07:55:55 PM
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Thank you for the updated cultural reference.  "baloney" I understand - as for the others "pastrami is the most sensual of the spiced meats"  http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheBlood.html
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November 02, 2011, 07:59:24 PM
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Thank you for the updated cultural reference.  "baloney" I understand - as for the others "pastrami is the most sensual of the spiced meats"  http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheBlood.html

haha yeah, this guy seems to have reinvented the IC engine making it more efficient though

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November 03, 2011, 12:34:48 PM
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The entire E-Cat device is a hoax.

Here is a good block, debunking their claims: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/

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November 03, 2011, 09:13:20 PM
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The entire E-Cat device is a hoax.

Here is a good block, debunking their claims: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/

This Krivit guy is an interesting character. Not really sure what to make of him. But that is neither here nor there. This is the part I found interesting from the above blog.

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I don’t doubt the legitimacy of the underlying science — apparently copied from biophysicist Francesco Piantelli — which has been published in peer-reviewed journals. But I do doubt the extraordinary magnitude of Rossi’s claim.

He goes on to link some other news and/or posts, that seem interesting.

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/09/28/nasa-advances-evaluation-of-piantelli’s-lenr-research/
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/37/Report2-372-EnergyCatalyzerScientificCommunicationAndEthicsIssues.shtml
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/Piantelli/PiantelliGroupPapers.shtml


Now I really don't want to get into the question of whether or not Rossi stole Piantelli's work. The question I have is much more basic.

Is there something there worth stealing?
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November 05, 2011, 06:38:17 PM
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Extended article on "free energy". It's all around us Cheesy

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November 07, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
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These self-proclaimed skeptics are equally annoying as their fringe engineering counterparts.  Roll Eyes
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November 08, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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December 08, 2011, 07:41:02 PM
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When this thread popped up I did a bit of reading on the subject.  My gut reaction was(is) that it's likely a scam, however even the small chance that it could be real is very interesting.

Now that it's about a month later I did some more searching and it looks like things are progressing:

http://energycatalyzer3.com/

What do you guys think about the new developments?  Is that site a scam?  Are others seeing potential in spinning off the same scam? Looks like the meet up in MIT might be real but didn't dig around very much at all.
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December 08, 2011, 08:06:09 PM
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I'm following this (and have been for a year or two) because it would invoke a big paradigm shift in electricity generation and transmission (part of my day job).  What is interesting is that there is a large body of scientific work out there that appears to produce excess heat, but the mechanics (physics/chemistry) of it are not understood, so it does not get credit.  There are some parameters that need to be brought together precisely, and that's hard to do.  The other invention sometimes quoted is the incandescent light bulb - I understand Edison took 9000 experiments to get something unexpected to work, and that it was very much left-field and almost bankrupted him in the process.

So, back to watching Rossi and the Greek outfit compete, along with NASA boffins, DoE and others.
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April 07, 2016, 05:02:52 PM
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Time to use my necro-threading powers... Cheesy
Due to Rossi and Leonardo suing Industrial Heat, for breach of contract, we can now access very important information.
The customer was Industrial Heat, who paid 1.5 million $ for the experimental 1MW plant and later another 10 million, after
validation tests, and for the actual License of the IP related to the E-cat. The rest of 89 million $ should have been paid by
IH after the 350 days of performance and endurance evaluation of the 1MW plant. This 350 days test concluded with the
impressive result of a COP > 50, according to Rossi, the report should be published soon. But IH refused to pay the 89 million $.

http://www.e-catworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Leonardosuit01-main.pdf
http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Rossi_et_al_v_Darden_et_al__flsdce-16-21199__0001.2.pdf
http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/lenr-energy-blackswan-revolution-is-a-fact-ecat-at-cop-50-for-350-days/

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