Demoted from Jr. Member to Newbie? Read here first.

[telexnetwork]

my question about demoting members rank, why it affect members register above one year and with moderate post, i mean they dont have post over 1000 or more personally i feel the administration of this forum should look beyond some criteria on this matter and the  effect on such account .

[phillipsgate]

I joined this group many months ago, I just post or commend needed not spam or do something wrong. And now i receive my rank down from Jr to newbie. Just a litle upset for this change, why don’t we apply this change for newbie to reduce fraud or spam. It’s unfair with old users, I just think I was punished by other people fault. We have many way to encourage newbie to get merit don’t do like down rank.

[snowy1]

Am so much in support of this new rule because it will not only maintain a good serenity of the forum it will also make a lot of people very conscious of the kind of things they post, the idea maybe hash to some people especially the demoted junior members I really feel their pains though but for sanity to be implemented some disciplinary measure have to be adhere to, I suggest you guys (demoted junior members) should put more effort in the quality of your posts and I believe in no distant time you will eventually bounse back to your former rank.

[amishmanish]

I joined this group many months ago, I just post or commend needed not spam or do something wrong. And now i receive my rank down from Jr to newbie. Just a litle upset for this change, why don’t we apply this change for newbie to reduce fraud or spam. It’s unfair with old users, I just think I was punished by other people fault. We have many way to encourage newbie to get merit don’t do like down rank.

I looked at all of your posts before the Rule change. Barring one post about automatically adding LinkedIn contacts (which is also dubious as far as linkedin policy is concerned), you have sadly made no useful posts. All of them are simply reports. This gives the impression that you are here just for farming bounties.

I'd recommend you spend some time at the forum engaging in fruitful conversation. I am sure you will get that 1 merit in a jiffy. I'll be glad to check in later too.

[DdmrDdmr]

As for me, The fact that we are downgraded will not reduce the amount of spam on the forum. If earlier, I received a junior quietly participated in the bounty, reading and absorbing information about the crypto currency. now I'm being forced to write and talk about things that I have not really figured out yet.

I myself started-off with a couple of bounties, and that soon turned out to be rather boring really. I felt that I was kind of going against my own nature doing silly fake social network tasks, which I never really do in real life, and soon gave up on it. More to my nature, I adapted to being constructive and swerved away from bounties and social reports. All this is a sort of experiment for me, both in terms of crypto and social networks with which I hardly ever engage (except for here now).

There are some forum members that have a good equilibrium of bounty hunting and decent regular posting. That seems fine to me and the forum would benefit quite a bit if that equilibrium became a trend for those that want to do their bounties.

[pakhitheboss]

This new rule is Bad for Individuals like me. Who have been frequently contributing but no one is intrested in reading.

I am optimist and I know someday someone will read one of my post and provide me with a Merit to become a Jr Member.

I do understand that this rules is to curb spam and increase the level of discussion happening on Bitcointalk. But, people like me are suffering.

It would be nice if the managment can add an optional criteria for achieving Merits depending on the number of actual post written by an individual and if one of the moderators can check them.

[VolkoB]

In fact, it is very useful for the forum, because there are a lot of speculation, I know people that hold 50 accounts. It is necessary to invent something to get 1 merit 

[biggNY]

Even if he is not  a good guy that was a good post.  It is important for people to know that there are 35-36 new people that can give merit As a source.  He mentioned it and gets my points.

Totally your judgement man. Not questioning that. I am just pointing out that it is unfair to hundreds of those posters who get lost in the din because someone like toheed2x spams 1000 reports in the time a serious poster would actually manage to post much less. If the post histories are taken as a reference, then at least the deserving ones get a better chance. Those who just "woke up because of rules change" should have to wait a little longer.

I would just prefer that the "good guys" get more of a chance than the "not a good guys".. So shared my opinion with you.

until the backlog of "jr demoted to newb but did have the occasional good post in their history that was missed so not merited" people gets slogged through, this may look like some of us are too quick to merit someone who got demoted.

but the whole point is (per theymos) all they need is ONE good(ish) post thats meritable and get their rank back. or be able to get to jr rank to begin with.

although with some accounts ya gotta look pretty far back..

I don’t want to seem that I am complaining, because frankly, I have nothing to complain about, but one good post is unfortunately not enough, in order to get merit. You would have to “invest” months of daily (kind of) posting of helpful stuff and if you’re lucky you get that merit at some point. Problem is newbies or Jr Members don’t receive Merit too often. A least that was the experience I made.

Tbh I expected change of rules sooner rather later, because recently the sh*t posting, just for the sake of posting “something” (to qualify for bounties) was getting unbearable. Unfortunately there is no way of deciding between Jr Members posting quality posts and those that post rubbish. And that’s why everbody was affected 🤔

[fizik4]

I joined this group many months ago, I just post or commend needed not spam or do something wrong. And now i receive my rank down from Jr to newbie. Just a litle upset for this change, why don’t we apply this change for newbie to reduce fraud or spam. It’s unfair with old users, I just think I was punished by other people fault. We have many way to encourage newbie to get merit don’t do like down rank.

I looked at all of your posts before the Rule change. Barring one post about automatically adding LinkedIn contacts (which is also dubious as far as linkedin policy is concerned), you have sadly made no useful posts. All of them are simply reports. This gives the impression that you are here just for farming bounties.

I'd recommend you spend some time at the forum engaging in fruitful conversation. I am sure you will get that 1 merit in a jiffy. I'll be glad to check in later too.

You reproach the participant, that he is engaged in bounties, but in fact everyone here came to the crypto currency to make his life better. And the way a person earns is his personal business. I, for example, have no money for trading, investment, .. The most suitable for me to earn at this stage is the bounty. And the fact that we are clogging the forum is not our fault.Terms of companies require you to submit a report in the forum branches. And if you require companies to accept reports in Google forms, then the amount of spam has decreased dramatically!

[toheed2x]

Of course as do I .

but when I give out points  they will not be to people asking for them.  which neither person I gave points to today were asking.

I will sift through about 5 to 10 people a day  that were jrs and were demoted.

I will ask if anyone would make that list  and post it in this thread  I won't give you any merits for doing it.

But the list would help me and others like me look at the demoted people's posts.

That is fair distribution I like the way you dealing merit system but one question new way to give a (sMerit) to others will count for newbie to become a jr member or not ? Is it working this way or not ?

[megumineth]

Its really disgusting to decrease rank without any notice
wasted my many months hard work.

You cannot say that. People should more contribution in this community to keep moving, even I'm demoted as well .
Visit the other discussion boards and make good posts over there and they will give you merit if you deserve it and stop complaining here.
This is the best way to contribute to this community. Goodluck!

[ryap12]

Thank god I have a few merits! I hate getting demoted.   Too bad for others who does not have merits. But the good part is that this will make more valuable post in the forum rather than just spamming to get stakes from bounty campaigns. I like this new ranking rules because before, newbie and jr. member looks very much the same.

well guys I read somewhere there is 36 new soruces for merit added today

we have to earn it 

This is correct I am a new source.

I gave you 2 points.

I have a lot of points to give and will be looking at newbies in this thread only.

Holy cow! You just got 2 merits toheed2x! Ahahaha! What an epic post.

[serhio_coin88]

Well, suppose that the newbie (in the past jr. member) received 1 merit and became a jr. member, and now nothing not prevent him to continue to write the shitposts, respectively, the goal that was inspired when the rules will change will work until the first merit.
In this regard, I propose to do aproving your rank +1 merit per week or per month, what should give a greater effect!

[truehodler2018]

The new system is good for spam prevention, this forum has lots of spam posts, i agree. But is it really going to work?  I have been a member since May but one day i woke up and all of a sudden i am a "Newbie". And taking about quality posts, some people do make a quality post but they don't get a merit at all. I have seen such posts. So, yes its kind of hard to get 1 merit. I guess i will just have to engage with the community and one day i will get a merit for that! Well, best of luck to everyone.

[fizik4]

And why is juniors responsible for everything? Are we the very ones who spammed the forum? I read a lot of information on the forum, and there are many posts from members, full members ... who after receiving merits none of them earned it! And it is especially interesting to read such messages https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.msg45810963#msg45810963 from people. which themselves did not earn and did not send a single merit.But spammers are of course the same juniors and only juniors!

[dear53]

At first hearing the matter, I was very much scared. I was wondering how to do the work to be done off the end But after a little while, when all the positive posts were read, mind mentality changed. In fact, all of us will benefit greatly through this system. Through this system, such scam will decrease and Post quality will improve greatly. I am also expressing solidarity with this system. Thank you sir theymos.
Thank you all...

[sidkz]

again I'm a beginner, I'm a member of the bounty of companies and I just do not like this situation, why everyone should be tormented, you have to fight with spm in another way, some negative balls for spam well, or likes and dis for the message and merits it is desirable to divide into 100 parts to people dovali it kakto more easily and punish those who do not give no one merit all this system needs to be finalized ideally I seem to make a system of likes like a man read your post he liked it he put you likes got 100 likes got merit

[nischal123]

And why is juniors responsible for everything? Are we the very ones who spammed the forum? I read a lot of information on the forum, and there are many posts from members, full members ... who after receiving merits none of them earned it! But spammers are of course the same juniors and only juniors!

I also feel sad when i my position decrease to newbie. But after reading the post from theymos and post of other member really the new rule help to remove the spammer many people are here only to earn money even they dont have any idea to trade as well as they even dont have enoguh knowledge about crypto. If you arent spammer real lover of crypto then focus on quality post. Have a great day Thanks  

[sk hossin]

Increasingly scams are increasing daily. As a result, a large number of people are being damaged every day. Many people were happy to start this system.
I am also one of them I am very happy because of the system's launch. I would like to tell sir theymos many wishes and congratulations. I think that all the members of our group are all we are a family.
I do not want any family member to be damaged. Those who are affected, only understand how much of the pressure of loss. I wish everyone's health and longevity.
Everyone will help everyone in good work and stay with them. for me, thank you.

[Alone055]

And for those of us that have merits to send, please keep this in mind:

You may not agree with everything someone says, but try to look into the effort behind the posts. It will encourage those who are at least trying to make decent posts to continue posting in the future. Spend some time in the patrol section and look for posts to give merit to.

And, check the post history of someone who hasn't got a single Merit yet but has written something very good. Such users mostly plagiarize from other posts or simply copy/paste things from outer sources.

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

@philipma1957, you, being a Legendary member, and a now a Merit source too, should know the basic rules of the forum and try not to go against them, and break them. You now have the responsibility to promote new users as you have the power of a source, so maybe you should be a little bit more careful with these things because younger members usually take motivations from higher rank users of the forum, and it won't be a good impression on them.