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September 17, 2018, 08:34:36 PM
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Hello guys;

It's my first contribution here. I am a PhD candidate in Political Science and International relations, I really like writing about the relation between Cryptocurrencies and politics.

in my country, cryptocurrency trading, and mining is prohibited. the reason why the government prohibited cryptocurrencies is because Blockchain technology is really transparent, and peer-to-peer, so if banks in my country and other countries where there is a lack of transparency, democracy, decide to adopt crypto, governments will do all their best to avoid adopting blockchain technology.

I have a project to prepare a study which focus on the relation between lack of democracy, and prohibiting bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general, but if I do such study, I will be faced by many problems, the first of these problems is that there is some countries that suffers from lack of democracy, but they are adopting crypto, like venezuela, and Russia. the reason behind that, I think, is that they are trying to avoid american and western sanctions, and secondly, they are trying to kill Dollar as the main currency in the World, in the long term of course, because if Russia will be for example the capital of cryptocurrencies in the future, and Bitcoin or another cryptocurrency will replace USD, Russia will be the dominant power in the world, because it will simply control cryptocurrencies.

Thatswhy, when I do some translations, of ICO's especially, I have found that 70 to 80 % of projects and teams are from Russia, and I think that the Russian governement even if it appears that it's not supporting crypto, I think Russia is in fact the first supporter of cryptocurrencies in the world.

So, I believe that of course crypto will change the world, but which country (s) wil be the capital of crypto? I think it's Russia.

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September 17, 2018, 09:14:28 PM
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I have a project to prepare a study which focus on the relation between lack of democracy, and prohibiting bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general, but if I do such study, I will be faced by many problems, the first of these problems is that there is some countries that suffers from lack of democracy, but they are adopting crypto, like venezuela, and Russia. the reason behind that, I think, is that they are trying to avoid american and western sanctions, and secondly, they are trying to kill Dollar as the main currency in the World

there's some complexity to the issue. in venezuela, 2017 was a year where the government endlessly cracked down on miners. miners were imprisoned for various crimes like "the legitimacy of capital, illicit enrichment, computer crimes, financing of terrorism, exchange fraud and damage to the national electricity system." they even raided small household miners.

in russia, the position of the state regarding bitcoin seems to change all the time. a few years ago, the prosecutor-general said it was completely illegal since it was a "money substitute." there's been no official legislation, and like china, officials have waffled between positive and negative statements. we'll see what the law looks like when it's eventually passed.

i think the more authoritarian governments initially react with an iron fist. over time, they realize how little control they have, and perhaps that cryptocurrency offers real value---particularly those countries that suffer from USA sanctions, as you pointed out.

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September 17, 2018, 09:16:07 PM
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but which country (s) wil be the capital of crypto? I think it's Russia.

 Grin The thing is dicey. The country that will become the capital of crypto won't really be determined by the country that has the highest usage. I see it being politically determined because cryptocurrency will become a very big business space and the world powers will most likely influence it.

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September 17, 2018, 09:32:10 PM
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Where are you from? Because currently blockchain technologies are getting popular and countries start to implement blockchain technologies and there are a lot of example of this.
If countries are against Bitcoin and crypto, it's logical. Now even Australia is going to ban encryption but being against blockchain technologies is saying no to good future/technologies.

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September 18, 2018, 02:03:05 AM
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Hello guys, thank you for your contributions. well, I am from North Africa, Crypto, Blockchain, mining, trading are all banned and prohibited, because they are afraid of transparency, but I think after few years they will allow the use of crypto again, because crypto is decentralized, and people enthusiasts in crypto will never wait for their governments to ban or allow, they will use crypto despite governments decisions.

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September 18, 2018, 02:38:17 AM
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Hello guys, thank you for your contributions. well, I am from North Africa, Crypto, Blockchain, mining, trading are all banned and prohibited, because they are afraid of transparency, but I think after few years they will allow the use of crypto again, because crypto is decentralized, and people enthusiasts in crypto will never wait for their governments to ban or allow, they will use crypto despite governments decisions.

Thanks again guys
Well, I do hope that your country will soon be part of this cryptocurrency industry and your government will realize the importance of cryptocurrency either in economical, local community and in business industries. We are here in this decentralized invironment so I think we can still be part even though there are restrictions as there are a lot of ways but that is so complicated if they implement a total ban on Bitcoin or crypto as a whole. But if they still hate crypto why suffer from restrictions if we are able to move to crypto friendly countries? Grin



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September 18, 2018, 03:51:08 AM
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daoudhichem, your country prohibits cryptocurrency trading and mining because its not legal tender money. Its not a currency that was decreed by law to be the only one used by its citizens. If you were your country's president would you allow it to be used freely, costing of your own's country's financial system?

Russia has been slow to regulate it maybe because they know it would be a waste of time.

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September 18, 2018, 05:18:02 AM
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No country should  become the "capital" of crypto,because crypto will become more centralized (and dependent from a government) than ever.We all remember last year,when China was dominating the cryptocurrency mining and trading.Threads asking questions like "is China manipulating all crypto prices?" were all over the place.We don't want this to happen again.

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September 18, 2018, 05:25:50 AM
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You are wrong. Russia will not be the capital of cryptography. You correctly noted that now in Russia, democracy is being infringed and the laws on crypto-currencies that should be adopted in Russia this fall are unlikely to provide a broad opportunity for citizens to deal with crypto-currency. Most likely, many will be disappointed by them. The fact that a large percentage of ICO teams are Russian simply indicates that many of them are interested in crypto currency and are trying to make money on it. Personally, I tried to avoid joining the ICO projects as a member of the ICO generosity campaign, if the Russians dominated there. Too many of these teams turned out to be scammers.
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September 18, 2018, 05:43:31 AM
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Russia will not be the capital of the crypts, that's for sure. Among the politicians and in general representatives of the authorities of this country there were very contradictory views on the future of the crypto currency in this country and I saw in their statements more negative than its adoption. What is worth mentioning is the draft law on the criminalization of the use of crypto currency as a means of payment submitted to the State Duma of that country, that says it all. In my opinion, with the current authorities, the crypto currency for the people of Russia will be closed.
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September 18, 2018, 07:28:01 AM
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Where are you from? Because currently blockchain technologies are getting popular and countries start to implement blockchain technologies and there are a lot of example of this.
If countries are against Bitcoin and crypto, it's logical. Now even Australia is going to ban encryption but being against blockchain technologies is saying no to good future/technologies.
It might be getting popular, but I certainly understand that there are still some countries that are seriously kicking against it and most especially a non democratic setting where the government is autocratic. You can check out legality of bitcoin here in most countries; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory

It is understandable that government will always want to fight it as it disrupts a lot of things and most especially the control they have always had and that is something we both know is hard to give up, but for a democratic setting there is just so little they can do about it and even for an autocratic setting. I really do not see how a particular country will have the power to control or be a capital as the OP mentioned, what makes it decentralized is that with massive adoption in the long run globally, there will be so little to the control they can have.
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September 18, 2018, 07:33:39 AM
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I liked your answer reading the government banning the crypto currency and the reason behind it. The transparency is the right word for it and what to say about the crypto and political relations was you know more than us as you are pHD holder in the said area. As a common people I would say that politicians do have their own benefits in the crypto currencies but they wont get hampered with the fact that crypto currency is anonymous and thus can be used from other countries too and still the money can be exchanged in that way. So they wont even hesitate to take the decision of banning the crypto currencies within their own country. Now we dont have to talk much about the contacts and relations of politicians with the third parties and intentional traders which makes them everything very clear.
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September 18, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
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I like your train of thought. I agree that a corrupt government will always beware of the blockchain as it may cast doubt on their credibility. Also, I do not think that Russia will become the capital of crypto. I think that the capitals can be Switzerland, Malta, Hong Kong, Singapore or maybe even the US.
In any case, thanks for your thoughts. It's a pity that everything in your country is so bad with cryptocurrencies.
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September 18, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
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For me, I will take politics above all others because the very direction any country will go is dependent on the decision of the political class. They are the one that will make the law, they will implement it and would even put machineries in place to ensure there is room to address conflicts when they arise. There are several developments and repots that have been suggested but because there is no political class commitment, it continues to gather dusts on the shelf.

On the issue of corruption, I believe there is hope for a country that practice democracy as it gives opportunity for change of government to bring about a forward looking government that is bent on eradicating corruption will push their will towards using technology to achieve that and that's where blockchain comes in handy. It is this force that would ensure that blockchain is utilised to the fullest rather than the micro ones individual are using it for their own selfish needs.
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September 18, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
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Politics are already lead by the corporation who pay the most in countries like USA and it is lead by politicians who are looking out for themselves in countries like Russia. Economics is already a big sector and crypto is a part of that, it is not separated from it.

Considering all of these are tied to each other, it is not wrong to say that they will all lead the world and crypto market together as it has always been. Banks will lobby the politicians, politicians will make laws and regulations and taxes, crypto people will either ignore or follow and improve and start to gain power. Same circle all the time.
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September 18, 2018, 02:27:11 PM
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I am not sure by the governments around the world have not understood the fact that Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies cannot be destroyed just like the other invention. Russia is definitely supporting crypto and there are some countries like Australia, where students from primary grade are exploring this topic in their academic curriculum itself. Crypto will definitely empower the economy on an international scale in the coming years and these countries are just preparing for it.
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September 19, 2018, 12:47:19 AM
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Thank you guys for your contributions.

I really believe that all the governments will adopt blockchain technology at least in the mid-long-term, we have seen Venezuela creating theit own cryptocurrency, and Iran allowing the use of crypto after prohibited them before, everything will change, and crypto is the future.
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September 19, 2018, 02:47:29 AM
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daoudhichem, your country prohibits cryptocurrency trading and mining because its not legal tender money. Its not a currency that was decreed by law to be the only one used by its citizens. If you were your country's president would you allow it to be used freely, costing of your own's country's financial system?

Russia has been slow to regulate it maybe because they know it would be a waste of time.



do you mean cryptocurrencies are not an international currency? maybe you mean on south africa only, since they prohibits trading, but it doesn't mean that cryptos are not honored in other countries. having a foreign exchange in a country is good for the country, trade and commerce is a necessity.

but i agree on your statement that russia would only waste their time to regulate crypto bacause it is impossible to regulate, instead, they took advantage of its use and focus on where it is beneficial for them. they have harnessed the power and the potential use of cryptos in their govt.

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September 19, 2018, 03:11:44 AM
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I am from North Africa, Crypto, Blockchain, mining, trading are all banned and prohibited, because they are afraid of transparency

Has Africa really made statement on cryptocurrency? Like openly making such statement of prohibiting it? Well... I'm yet to read the information, maybe you could assist to show some prove. I believe that African nations have been quiet about it or yet to come up with a ban news.
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September 19, 2018, 04:10:57 AM
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I do not think any oligarchy or dictatorship can lead the crypto market. Eventually these countries will decide on ways to ban, prohibit or hinder their trade.

A decentralized project does not belong to any country. This is the sacred stone of true projects related to cryptocurrencies. It is not possible to imagine that someone like Putin could be in the long term favorable to Bitcoin.

Then the country that will lead this market will be the country that gives more freedom of choice to its citizens. May he have more trade agreements. That has legislation favorable to entrepreneurship. And have laws that accept gambling and are light with the drug trade.
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