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December 18, 2018, 06:59:42 PM
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When there is a bull-market everyone jumps on the bitcoin train, we get a ton of newbies and most of them are greedy bastards just wanting to make a quick buck off-of us.

Now that the market is down, most of these people have left us. This gives us time and quiet to improve on our skills and understanding of bitcoin.

Now that the dead weight is off we can re-evaluate our objectives with bitcoin and come back sharper on the other end of it.

We don't need everyone talking about bitcoin, we don't need people who are here to make profit without working. What we need is scaling solutions. We need more active peers on the network.

We need people selling food, electronics, land and everything else. We need people who buy those things and sell products for bitcoin.

We need restaurants and fishermen and farmers.

We need movers and shakers.



We don't need more speculators. We have enough of those.

I think it is the best thing we can do right now. And we can rest now before tired. Soon market will start move again quickly. Then we can't rest anymore. We always watch the market data   Roll Eyes I suggest rest your eyes, they will be tired soon Smiley
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December 18, 2018, 07:30:23 PM
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Everytime we need to keep updating ourselves and improving on all aspects especially on the solution brought by cryotocurrencies through blockchain. All we need is improvement  that will take the good projects to the promise land.  Price should only matter when what you buy is usable but it's otherwise as majority are only interested in the price.  Developemnyis key to progress. 
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December 18, 2018, 07:37:28 PM
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We don't need more speculators. We have enough of those.

So we need less theory and more practice. More applications for cryptos, more business accepting it. I totally agree, but we need to understand how that is on our hands. If we want that we need to start with the example, showing to the people how to accept bitcoins in their business, asking in any shop if they accept bitcoin as payment and making them feel bad if they don't accept btc.

Is in our hands to change to the world, and it will change with our actions, not with our speeches.

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December 18, 2018, 10:14:34 PM
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When there is a bull-market everyone jumps on the bitcoin train, we get a ton of newbies and most of them are greedy bastards just wanting to make a quick buck off-of us.

Now that the market is down, most of these people have left us. This gives us time and quiet to improve on our skills and understanding of bitcoin.

Now that the dead weight is off we can re-evaluate our objectives with bitcoin and come back sharper on the other end of it.

We don't need everyone talking about bitcoin, we don't need people who are here to make profit without working. What we need is scaling solutions. We need more active peers on the network.

We need people selling food, electronics, land and everything else. We need people who buy those things and sell products for bitcoin.

We need restaurants and fishermen and farmers.

We need movers and shakers.



We don't need more speculators. We have enough of those.


It's too early to talk about stopping speculation. In a falling market, speculators have the opportunity to short. Therefore, they are not going anywhere.

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December 18, 2018, 10:29:35 PM
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Speculators will always be there anyway. When bitcoin starts to grow, there will be a lot of people willing to make money on it. There's nothing we can do about it. As for self-improvement, I agree with you. We must be able to survive in any situation, and we must understand what we are doing.

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December 18, 2018, 10:38:31 PM
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When there is a bull-market everyone jumps on the bitcoin train, we get a ton of newbies and most of them are greedy bastards just wanting to make a quick buck off-of us.

Now that the market is down, most of these people have left us. This gives us time and quiet to improve on our skills and understanding of bitcoin.

Now that the dead weight is off we can re-evaluate our objectives with bitcoin and come back sharper on the other end of it.

We don't need everyone talking about bitcoin, we don't need people who are here to make profit without working. What we need is scaling solutions. We need more active peers on the network.

We need people selling food, electronics, land and everything else. We need people who buy those things and sell products for bitcoin.

We need restaurants and fishermen and farmers.

We need movers and shakers.



We don't need more speculators. We have enough of those.
Even you have the determination to improve yourself if the market itself does not helping you, no more changes coming from your life. In this current condition of the market, the only thing we can do is to hold and wait for the profits. Do not take the risk unless you are ready with the consequence.

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December 18, 2018, 11:21:01 PM
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If we want that we need to start with the example, showing to the people how to accept bitcoins in their business, asking in any shop if they accept bitcoin as payment and making them feel bad if they don't accept btc.

It's not good to make stores feel bad, because it will work against Bitcoin rather than for Bitcoin. Hyping up Bitcoin too much in an attempt to have them accept it as form of payment isn't good either, because the lack of actual use will make you look bad because the sales in Bitcoin will heavily disappoint, especially during bear markets where most people lick their wounds.

Be realistic, help store owners where they need it, and more importantly, spend Bitcoin yourself over at their store as well. Coingate allows merchants to accept Lightning payments, so definitely a plus there. Everyone likes fast and cheap settling transactions. It might even have geeks visit their stores just for the sake of paying with Lightning.
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December 18, 2018, 11:40:40 PM
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What we need is scaling solutions

Scaling solutions?Do you mean Bitcoin Cash,Segwit and Lighting Network?Those are the "scaling solutions" and I don't think that we actually need any of them.
No,the times for bitcoin are not "hard".Bitcoin is going just fine.The fact that the btc price is far under the ATH doesn't mean that bitcoin is in a crysis.

1. bitcoin cash is a different network
2. lightning is a different network. it is not a bitcoin feature. it is a separate network that multiple coins will use. dvs ar just using the co-branding' to drum up promotion so they can get paid. but as i said its a separate network multiple coins will use.

3. segwit is not a scaling solution. the 4mb weight does not equal 4x transaction capacity. thats the false illusion presented. sgwit is the tool to make bitcoin compatible with LN. strangely if LN was to be a btc feature of bitcoin. it would be LN eing altered to be bitcoin compatible. not the other way round. (hint bitcoin making bc1q addressses to be LN identifiable because litecoin will have ltc1q addresses sitting along side them in LN)

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btc price is temporary drama. i compare it to the karate kid painting fense "daniel-son: up down up down" its what is expected and the to be treated as such

5. the top price is ignorable. no one should care. not everyone gets to be online and take advantage when it hits. and all it causes is drama. however the bottomline VALUE. the part where no one is foolish to sell below. is the ground level where everyone can stand and take advantage of because the price is always above that line.

2016: >$300
2017: >$900
2018: >$5800
those are the important numbers.. not the ATH

Agree with you. We need to watch statistics by the correct dates and not by the pumps.
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December 19, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
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Rightly said hardtimes bring with it the experience nobody can experience in good times it is the time for introspection ,improvisation and bring self confidence .Markets is down but our morale should be high to meet the challanges of present situation and to overcome it, individual as well as collective efforts are required.

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December 19, 2018, 12:57:13 AM
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you can't fight speculators and prevent them from coming in, in fact all the things you said (the adoption by merchants) is going to bring even more speculators in. it is because of the price and the way it moves. as it is adopted more then there will be a price rise because of the increasing demand. and as that happens we will see more newbies and profit-seekers come in and price goes even higher.

as far as we don't lose the objective altogether (which is adoption as a way of payment) we are fine, even with lots of speculators and weak hands.
Bitcoin trading is always attractive for large traders to take advantage of, because the global nature and price movements are very easy to change, if traders can take advantage of the situation of price movements with a large number of purchasing systems will increase the price of bitcoin on the market, but things like this can be an added value for bitcoin trading on the money market, because with the presence of new traders, price increases will always occur.
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December 19, 2018, 01:17:56 AM
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In fact, I'm also very satisfied that finally, the majority of common people have lost their interest in Bitcoin nowadays. However, that fact doesn't give any upward forecasts or guarantees of BTC development in a positive way
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December 19, 2018, 02:04:51 AM
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During this period of dump I was able to studied and analyzed price behavior of bitcoin not bodering about the already dropped in price of bitcoin mostly orchestrated by dumpers thereafter I gained confidence and optimist of price recovery despite  all the challenges faced by bitcoin regulations, bans, government clamped down on exchanges and massive dumping by the 'whales'.
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December 19, 2018, 02:13:22 AM
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I think if we've done investing last 2017 maybe we should learn from this investing experience in crypto, this was really a hard time for those who buy bitcoin on a very high price the huge drop of the price that the bitcoin or maybe crypto coin that we are now experiencing is really worst specially to new investors that doesn't have enoughf patience on waiting they surely do panic selling and loss this time.
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December 19, 2018, 12:58:19 PM
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All of us needs self improvement in order to achieve our goals and also to gain. Bitcoin will not work for you unless you work for it. It is a learning process as you go along and you must improve what you have for you to achieve success in your investment.

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December 19, 2018, 11:23:49 PM
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Your correct don't rely in any users and just combine it to your idea because the price are base worldwide so no one can really see the market then only full of prediction like really don't have assurance and we can use a lot of strategy so better to always study the investment here that's the key like many knowledge,Moreover accept everything like all are possible here in crypto like you can earn or lose
Smart people immediately told me that when you invest money in a high-yielding asset, be ready to part with them.
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December 19, 2018, 11:35:38 PM
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Many go here brought thirst to earn money. Few people are interested in technology. But the fall of the market showed who really believes in crypto and who does not. And I agree with you that we ourselves should encourage that bitcoin to be accepted as payment in many places.If we continue to use it as a speculative tool, nothing good will come of it.
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December 20, 2018, 12:20:53 AM
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when it's difficult it can indeed be a means to see anyone who is loyal to bitcoin or who just wants to be rich overnight, it's true we don't need people who talk a lot without contributing, they usually just complain and spread panic but don't use their brains to think looking for a solution so that the difficult times soon, what we need now is only real work is not nonsense
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December 20, 2018, 01:29:43 AM
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We can't blame them for trying to make a fast profit,
besides, not all of those who buy Bitcoin when it starts rising succeed in making profit.

They have a bad effect on Bitcoin because they make everyone else
look at this revolutionary technology just as a source of income.
bitcoin has changed its function, has become a commodity that is traded, and they will benefit, if things like this are allowed then the future of bitcoin can be less good, you should start socializing the use of bitcoin to use in all trading activities, if bitcoin used as a function, bitcoin can become an alternative currency in the world.
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December 20, 2018, 01:44:59 AM
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We need people selling food, electronics, land and everything else. We need people who buy those things and sell products for bitcoin.

We need restaurants and fishermen and farmers.

We need movers and shakers.

We don't need more speculators. We have enough of those.

you cant run a save business and a reliable business if you fix yourself on bitcoin.

because its not a fiat currency its not capital. its just an advertised token. nothing else.

trying to earn bitcoin will be neverendingly an unsecure business.

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December 20, 2018, 01:50:30 AM
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When there is a bull-market everyone jumps on the bitcoin train, we get a ton of newbies and most of them are greedy bastards just wanting to make a quick buck off-of us.

Now that the market is down, most of these people have left us. This gives us time and quiet to improve on our skills and understanding of bitcoin.

Now that the dead weight is off we can re-evaluate our objectives with bitcoin and come back sharper on the other end of it.

We don't need everyone talking about bitcoin, we don't need people who are here to make profit without working. What we need is scaling solutions. We need more active peers on the network.

We need people selling food, electronics, land and everything else. We need people who buy those things and sell products for bitcoin.

We need restaurants and fishermen and farmers.

We need movers and shakers.



We don't need more speculators. We have enough of those.

I think it is the best thing we can do right now. And we can rest now before tired. Soon market will start move again quickly. Then we can't rest anymore. We always watch the market data   Roll Eyes I suggest rest your eyes, they will be tired soon Smiley
if every user contributes as you say then the bitcoin image and trust in bitcoin can go back up, because now most users are too
focused on how to get prices back up, while all they do is hold and without doing anything?
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