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September 18, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
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Hi Everyone,

Below we want to show you the perfect example why 98% of sports bettors lose money long term.

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Now let's show you the perfect example why 98% of sports bettors lose money long term or leave money on the table.

We sent out an email to over 10,000 sports bettors on Thursday offering two plays for Thursday Night Football with the guarantee of going 2-0 or 10 Dime Club plays free of charge, we had over 400 sign up and they enjoyed a 2-0 day.

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We then offered football action free of charge on the weekend, on Saturday we went 2-1 and on Sunday we went 1-3, overall 3-4 weekend in football.

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FOOTBALL: USA, NCAA - GEORGIA SOUTHERN EAGLES +33 (-110)  WINNER
FOOTBALL: USA, NCAA - TEXAS STATE BOBCATS +10.5 (-110)  WINNER
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Sunday, September 16, 2018

FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - BUFFALO BILLS +7.5 (-110)  LOSER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - PHILADELPHIA EAGLES -3 (-120)  LOSER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (-120)  LOSER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - DALLAS COWBOYS -3 (-105)  WINNER

On Monday we also offered Monday Night Football with the guarantee of going 2-0 or 10 Dime Club plays free of charge, instead of having the same over 400 sign up, we only had just over 100 sign up, therefore only those 100 that know how to accept a losing day enjoyed a 2-0 day.

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FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - CHICAGO BEARS -3 (-115)  WINNER
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With this being said, out of 10,000 sports bettors emailed only just over 100 got the full benefits of following us and going 7-4.

Over 300 went 5-4 because they did sign up Thursday but got scared away by a losing day and didn't sign up Monday, therefore leaving two winners on the table.

And almost 9,600 either went 0-0 because they just ignored our emails or went 3-4 because they only followed what was free of charge, therefore leaving 4 winners on the table.

If you haven't learned it is a marathon and not a sprint or haven't learned to accept losing days then stop betting on sports now, sports betting isn't for you. We will have losing days just like anyone, but we do guarantee we will have many more winning days then losing days.

If you have learned it is a marathon and not a sprint and have learned to accept losing days then we have two offers for you, long term commitment and short term commitment.

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September 18, 2018, 12:02:24 PM
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yeah to be honest sportsbetting is probably the most serious commitment I have ever been involved in , I left a horse racing tipster after a huge downswing that yielded me a lot of loss and right after I lost he start winning back and recovered like 60% of what he previous lost

but this is not the reason why the majority fail , it's just like poker and trading where a small percentage wins and the profits are coming from the people who are losing
so to be honest I can only see you promoting your service without giving info related to the subject that you wrote
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September 19, 2018, 11:49:39 AM
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Where did you get the 98% statistic from? Seems like you just pulled that out of your ass? I doubt the numbers are as grim as you mention, as most sportsbook don't even have anywhere near that sort of margin on their odds.
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September 19, 2018, 03:20:30 PM
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People do think sports betting is any different than stuff like dice. It is not, the odds are still there and favoring the house, if you think that you can win for a long term in any sort of gambling then you are VERY wrong.

There will be days when the team that suppose to win will win which means you make a small win however when you bet on an underdog you may lose or even if you bet on the team that suppose to win you will still lose sometimes. Which all comes down to house edge, there is house edge in dice and there are "odds" in sports which is basically house edge as well, you cannot win on long term.

Even many gambling houses are claiming that their sport betting platform is working as per the concepts of p2p, they are not actually in real time. This the core reason why we do get different results compared when we do bet with our colleagues in real life.

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September 19, 2018, 04:44:05 PM
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I must criticise your approach of message delivery which you really need to work on if you will need to communicate with the community and along the line advertise the services you are looking to offer. You made mention of three reasons and on reading through, there is no identifiable point to focus on those reasons.

The major reason I know sport bettors make losses in the long-term is ability not to do proper account of their winnings and losses. They get carried away by the few winnings they get once in a while without considering the amount of losses they have suffered and the odds that comes along with those outcomes. By the time they realize, they would realize that they are worse off than when they started.
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September 19, 2018, 05:24:01 PM
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People do think sports betting is any different than stuff like dice. It is not, the odds are still there and favoring the house, if you think that you can win for a long term in any sort of gambling then you are VERY wrong.

There will be days when the team that suppose to win will win which means you make a small win however when you bet on an underdog you may lose or even if you bet on the team that suppose to win you will still lose sometimes. Which all comes down to house edge, there is house edge in dice and there are "odds" in sports which is basically house edge as well, you cannot win on long term.

Even many gambling houses are claiming that their sport betting platform is working as per the concepts of p2p, they are not actually in real time. This the core reason why we do get different results compared when we do bet with our colleagues in real life.
I absolutely agree. This is also why if you’re relying on using tipsters to make bets, the win rate doesn’t necessarily matter, as you don’t get nearly as much money from betting on a favorite team. Most people can attain a win rate of at least 70% just betting on a favored team to win, so when I choose to use a tipster, I look at some individual bets that they’ve done in the past to get an idea of how good they actually are.
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September 19, 2018, 08:50:20 PM
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Clickbait title is fine, but for a sports tipster, that's an incredibly terrible use of statistics. You sent an email to 1000 people? How many were active users? How many of those who didn't use your tips did better than you? Who knows? You didn't track that, so there's no statistics, just lazy arithmetics.

Tips are okay but if you don't have a history to show, there's little that can be said of their worth. 10 games? Bet base? Got to do better than this if you're selling a service.

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September 19, 2018, 09:15:12 PM
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Clickbait title is fine, but for a sports tipster, that's an incredibly terrible use of statistics. You sent an email to 1000 people? How many were active users? How many of those who didn't use your tips did better than you? Who knows? You didn't track that, so there's no statistics, just lazy arithmetics.

Tips are okay but if you don't have a history to show, there's little that can be said of their worth. 10 games? Bet base? Got to do better than this if you're selling a service.

I dont agree with you If you properly do analysis and prepare report then in long term you will be in profit. out of 10 match only 1 or 2 will go wrong. But if you follow properly the rules of same budget game and dont play daily only bet on matches which you have fully confident.

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September 19, 2018, 11:22:11 PM
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Like the above posters have said, I doubt that 98% of all sports betters lose. Most of the gamblers I've met in person actually do pretty well with sports betting. They had experience for years and use that knowledge to their advantage.

If there is any type of gambling where 98% of betters are losers then its the state lottery. Why? Because most of those people even if they actually win anything, they just re-gamble it back and end up losing it all anyways. Most likely only 2% or less are smart enough to keep their earnings and walk away.

I knew so many people who won like $1000 or $5000 in the lottery and then they go back and purchase more tickets because "I had a dream with the winning numbers" and they end up losing all their money.
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September 19, 2018, 11:48:18 PM
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So you based that on the number of responders to your email and not on the actual wins and profits of the sports bettor? I doubt that and consulting with you would be a good idea if you have real results. Almost estimations with everything you are trying to say in this post. Not totally good.

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September 19, 2018, 11:59:30 PM
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I have seen tipsters here in this forum giving away good tips on which one will win and that 98% I guess has no basis that 1 sports bettor always pick on the wrong team to place a bet. There's a lot of sources to hep sports bettor to win, that's why there's odds that will guide would be bettors.
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September 20, 2018, 12:37:34 AM
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There will be days when the team that suppose to win will win which means you make a small win however when you bet on an underdog you may lose or even if you bet on the team that suppose to win you will still lose sometimes. Which all comes down to house edge, there is house edge in dice and there are "odds" in sports which is basically house edge as well, you cannot win on long term.
Imo, you can win money long term by doing arbitrage bets. Several sportsbooks have different odds which can be used as an advantage to make some profit if you can find the best odds. Another way to secure profits is to bet live because odds can swing heavily from favored to an underdog if you can time it perfectly. There are different ways to win in sportsbooks than the casino that's why a lot of people prefer to bet on sports.

I agree that you can't beat the house since that's how gambling sites make money but you can win money long term with the right strategy and winning is all that matters than beating the house.

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September 20, 2018, 05:48:04 AM
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LMAO 98%? Where the hell did you get that statistics.

Sports betting is different as compare to lets say a on-line dice game or slot machines. You have total control of your betting strategies here and I'm sure that majority of sports bettors and on the positive side. I have met a lot of them, and they all say the same, if you don't analyze the game you are going to bet, then don't bet at all. It means those guys really does spend a lot of time and wouldn't just place their money in order to lose. And they're are very intelligent and smart gambler so I doubt that in the long run, they're going to lose.

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September 20, 2018, 07:01:11 AM
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Hi Everyone,

Below we want to show you the perfect example why 98% of sports bettors lose money long term.

At the end of this message, below the perfect example, you can find a NFL and CFB offer and a Free Pick for today.

Now let's show you the perfect example why 98% of sports bettors lose money long term or leave money on the table.

We sent out an email to over 10,000 sports bettors on Thursday offering two plays for Thursday Night Football with the guarantee of going 2-0 or 10 Dime Club plays free of charge, we had over 400 sign up and they enjoyed a 2-0 day.

Thursday, September 13, 2018

FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - CINCINNATI BENGALS PK (-110)  WINNER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - BALTIMORE / CINCINNATI OVER 44 (-110)  WINNER

We then offered football action free of charge on the weekend, on Saturday we went 2-1 and on Sunday we went 1-3, overall 3-4 weekend in football.

Saturday, September 15, 2018

FOOTBALL: USA, NCAA - GEORGIA SOUTHERN EAGLES +33 (-110)  WINNER
FOOTBALL: USA, NCAA - TEXAS STATE BOBCATS +10.5 (-110)  WINNER
FOOTBALL: USA, NCAA - UTSA ROADRUNNERS +21.5 (-110)  LOSER

Sunday, September 16, 2018

FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - BUFFALO BILLS +7.5 (-110)  LOSER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - PHILADELPHIA EAGLES -3 (-120)  LOSER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (-120)  LOSER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - DALLAS COWBOYS -3 (-105)  WINNER

On Monday we also offered Monday Night Football with the guarantee of going 2-0 or 10 Dime Club plays free of charge, instead of having the same over 400 sign up, we only had just over 100 sign up, therefore only those 100 that know how to accept a losing day enjoyed a 2-0 day.

Monday, September 17, 2018

FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - CHICAGO BEARS -3 (-115)  WINNER
FOOTBALL: USA, NFL - SEATTLE / CHICAGO UNDER 43 (-105)  WINNER

With this being said, out of 10,000 sports bettors emailed only just over 100 got the full benefits of following us and going 7-4.

Over 300 went 5-4 because they did sign up Thursday but got scared away by a losing day and didn't sign up Monday, therefore leaving two winners on the table.

And almost 9,600 either went 0-0 because they just ignored our emails or went 3-4 because they only followed what was free of charge, therefore leaving 4 winners on the table.

If you haven't learned it is a marathon and not a sprint or haven't learned to accept losing days then stop betting on sports now, sports betting isn't for you. We will have losing days just like anyone, but we do guarantee we will have many more winning days then losing days.

If you have learned it is a marathon and not a sprint and have learned to accept losing days then we have two offers for you, long term commitment and short term commitment.

Long term we are offering you the NFL and CFB Season Package at 50% off, therefore you can get access for the whole season including Bowls and Super Bowl for only $500.

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If you are interested in either of the two offers payment can be made by PayPal to info@vegasconsultants.com.

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September 20, 2018, 10:02:18 AM
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LMAO 98%? Where the hell did you get that statistics.

Sports betting is different as compare to lets say a on-line dice game or slot machines. You have total control of your betting strategies here and I'm sure that majority of sports bettors and on the positive side. I have met a lot of them, and they all say the same, if you don't analyze the game you are going to bet, then don't bet at all. It means those guys really does spend a lot of time and wouldn't just place their money in order to lose. And they're are very intelligent and smart gambler so I doubt that in the long run, they're going to lose.
If someone losing more money on the sport bets than he is betting without any analysis of that game if you ask me the sport betting is more profitable and successful when we knows about that game so if you have not enough knowledge about the game you are going to bet then better staw away from it but the problem for sport bettors is the match fixing some big players can fix the games and make all of us fool.









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September 20, 2018, 10:10:41 AM
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Is the reference to the information you provide reliable? Are you not worried about becoming a FUD? One of the most popular and well-liked gambling games is betting on sporting events, gambling players and sports enthusiasts betting to increase enjoyment while watching, many people who benefit greatly from sports betting and those who lose, no matter how many defeats experienced but this gambling game is always in high demand.

OP just posts here every two weeks or so trying to advertise his service , I have asked him many times regarding why they have high price and if they can provide a full tracked record for their past picks using a 3rd party site and he never replied to me

once I saw the topic subject I thought this will be a helpful topic , but he did all the math based on his experience with his followers and I'm not even sure if he is really telling the truth or just posting trying to get new customers

in general a few percentage wins with any type of +EV gambling or trading , don't have accurate numbers tho but it's way over 2%
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September 20, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
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Clickbait title is fine, but for a sports tipster, that's an incredibly terrible use of statistics. You sent an email to 1000 people? How many were active users? How many of those who didn't use your tips did better than you? Who knows? You didn't track that, so there's no statistics, just lazy arithmetics.

Tips are okay but if you don't have a history to show, there's little that can be said of their worth. 10 games? Bet base? Got to do better than this if you're selling a service.

I dont agree with you If you properly do analysis and prepare report then in long term you will be in profit. out of 10 match only 1 or 2 will go wrong. But if you follow properly the rules of same budget game and dont play daily only bet on matches which you have fully confident.

I was saying exactly that... without any analysis and long-term report, it's impossible to say if you'd be profitable (or not) following tips from their service. But what you're saying is naive. No amount of analysis and reporting can ensure profit. If only 1 or 2 are wrong out of 10, then you're probably betting on low payouts, which isn't anyway what tipsters tend to give out (betting on 6/5 isn't a tip!). Like SyGambler says, there are good tipsters out there, but they don't bet on confidence, they bet on +EV and value odds. Even so, variance eats you up quickly at some point in the short and medium terms, such is the way of gambling. Even in sports betting.

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September 20, 2018, 09:03:18 PM
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Where did you get the 98% statistic from? Seems like you just pulled that out of your ass? I doubt the numbers are as grim as you mention, as most sportsbook don't even have anywhere near that sort of margin on their odds.

He did. 98% looks better than 99. It makes it look more real since 99 is abused so much.
OP is only trying to show how inferior a typical gambler is compared to his guaranteed picks.  Roll Eyes
This statement about 98% or 99% of players losing in the long run is exaggerated. I'm sure that more than 50% lose but not 98.
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Whatever type of gambling if we cannot control ourselves, it will have the effect of losing money in the long run. It all depends on ourselves, be a smart gambler. Cool

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September 26, 2018, 07:11:01 PM
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Whatever type of gambling if we cannot control ourselves, it will have the effect of losing money in the long run. It all depends on ourselves, be a smart gambler. Cool


Greediness is the matter for a this lose we see in gambling, if you not be careful and worry on loosing fund also there is much possibility to grow more in the marketplace guys.
Long term is the word not suits for gambling it is just can be used as the entertainment factor only.
So don't have your fund at all the time on gambling site or anything.

 
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