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September 19, 2018, 01:55:20 AM
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So many people are interested in amassing wealth without giving a dime to the less privilege around them, yet they will still be among the first to criticize the government in its failure to eradicate hunger and poverty in the country. You should also know that the duty of eradicating poverty must not be left to the government alone. You must also contribute your quota.
 
If you have worked to be wealthy or lucky to be one, you should see it as a social responsibility to help the less privileged people in the society. If I may ask, do you feel comfortable driving past several beggars on the street when you have billions of money in your account that you or your entire family may not be able to exhaust in the next 100 years?
 
Think about this seriously. With the so much money in the world, poverty can greatly be reduced if not totally eradicated.
 
All that is necessary is the distribution of this wealth.

There is enough to go round.

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You must not necessarily give physical cash or money directly in order to help the poor or the less privileged. You can set up an empowerment scheme where they could be empowered or work to earn a living for themselves. It is like teaching them how to fish instead of offering them the fish directly to eat. I guess it is best that way.

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September 19, 2018, 03:18:21 AM
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Giving money to the poor can only help in a short amount of time it doesn't improve their lives in the long run because you don't know what are they going to do with the money. This is the risk when helping people so others turn to charities but helping charities has its own risk too because you can't track everything and what they're going to do with the money (lack of transaprency).

Other poor people rely heavily on the government for their needs instead of relying on their own. They've accepted their fate living in a poor lifestyle and doesn't want to change for the better. With that being said we can't eliminate poverty, reducing it is one way to maintain/improve the problem from getting worse.

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September 19, 2018, 03:25:42 AM
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You think being wealthy is luck, lmfao..

I'm not even that wealthy and it's just luck that I have made all of my income from, it's just luck that I choose to spend my money on things that hold value, it's just luck that I haven't pissed my money away paying interest on loans and buying things to throw away..

I believe in equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome..


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September 19, 2018, 03:50:59 AM
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Poverty can be eradicated by employment. I am just disappointed when an university graduate they prefer to work for someone else in a company rather than making a small job that can least help someone who has less economy.

Allowances provided by the government or from the surrounding community will not give him a comfortable life, they won't be able to manage where the money will end. So as, even though we help them by just giving free money, it will make it useless.

Just two way to give the lives of poor people be better, one gives him a job and the second makes an education so that he can manage the money he has, for example he can innovate to make a job with the expertise they have, surely with strict supervision.
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September 19, 2018, 04:01:47 AM
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So many people are interested in amassing wealth without giving a dime to the less privilege around them, yet they will still be among the first to criticize the government in its failure to eradicate hunger and poverty in the country. You should also know that the duty of eradicating poverty must not be left to the government alone. You must also contribute your quota.
 
If you are lucky to be wealthy, you should see it as a social responsibility to help the less privileged people in the society. If I may ask, do you feel comfortable driving past several beggars on the street when you have billions of money in your account that you or your entire family may not be able to exhaust in the next 100 years?
 
Think about this seriously. With the so much money in the world, poverty can greatly be reduced if not totally eradicated.
 
All that is necessary is the distribution of this wealth.

There is enough to go round.    
Yes but still rich people dont have time to fight poverty even though they able to do it. Even the goverment not able to help people out of poverty and just let them suffering. I think to fight proverty we can use education, job training and also all things that could enhance skill and knowledge of person.

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September 19, 2018, 04:59:21 AM
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We need new forms of infrastructure, small village settings within cities, so people are more community driven and inclusive. My Wife came up with a brilliant idea. She said if she were in Power, she would make the work week 4 hours a day, then 2 hours a day people would work for free for the community. There would be no unemployment because of less working hours and housing would be really cheap and affordable. She would also run cooperatives, so everyone in the villages, within the city would own part of all the businesses that ran in that village, so end of year EVERYONE would get dividends. This would drive people to really be productive in their 4 hour work shift and then also want to give back to the community and be more caring for one another.


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September 19, 2018, 05:15:52 AM
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I think poverty is only there because of selfishness, I cant say that poverty is because the people who are experiencing it is doing nothing about their lives, maybe they are just in a position where they have no other way to get out of it, But, rich people who are crazy rich and even the simple people who are in the state where their lives are in a good state, only learn how to share and give without wanting or expecting something in return, then our world would be a so much better place, and I think poverty will be no more.

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September 19, 2018, 05:20:01 AM
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I understand your feeling about this issue but unfortunately our society is not meant for such great help. Now I am not someone who has billions in my hands but I do donate some food or cloth if I see someone poor who really needs it. We cant help with the fact that most of the community in the world is born poor because thats the mistake of their past family who did not fit into the society, nor they studies very well or stayed away from the modern world which caused them to worsen the situation of their fellow family. Anyway government does provide them education free of cost which can change everything in their life. But its upto them. Donation is not the only way here, if we keep doing that then billions of dollars will also be less to eradicate everything.
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September 19, 2018, 06:11:52 AM
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All that is necessary is the distribution of this wealth.
That is like asking to work for the sake of others and those who really work hard to obtain wealth will lose interest if the world will have a proper distribution of wealth(which I doubt would happen to our lifetimes). IMO rich people can help those who are poor by putting up another profitable business using their money and then hiring them. That itself is a way to help them if they really wanted not to be poor.
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September 19, 2018, 06:20:21 AM
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You think being wealthy is luck, lmfao..

I'm not even that wealthy and it's just luck that I have made all of my income from, it's just luck that I choose to spend my money on things that hold value, it's just luck that I haven't pissed my money away paying interest on loans and buying things to throw away..

I believe in equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome..

I totally agree with that. People like OP think that wealth is like a cake, so if someone is wealthy, i.e. has a bigger piece of the cake, the rest are poorer. But wealth is like a fruit tree, that can grow and give more fruit, so if someone is richer, i.e. has more fruit, the rest can have more fruit as well. And when someone eats a fruit and throws the seed, a new fruit tree can grow, and so on.

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September 19, 2018, 06:44:22 AM
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Very good replies to the OP.

Firstly it is human nature to want to succeed and progress, this is why are
the dominant species on the planet.

Sustainability is the key. There is little lasting benefit to donating to the poor
because it is a temporary fix. Education is important along with financial
assistance to create something which can be built upon.

Donating to charities is only partly solving the issue. A high percentage of
what we donate goes on salaries and administration.

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September 19, 2018, 07:28:07 AM
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Rather than giving money to the poor, maybe you should think of trying to empower them instead, by probably creating a non governmental organization within this sphere to do that and building up their skills on areas where they can start getting their hands to work and rendering service to feed for themselves.

Like they always say; Instead of giving people fish to eat every time, it is better you teach them how to fish. I have seen handicapped people doing stuff for themselves in life and making substantial income from their skills, so, I do not think there should ever be an excuse for anyone using less privilege to cover up unless they are just damn sick and cannot lift their fingers. If you keep giving people money around you, that would not make them stop from being poor.

We might say some may lack the information and the skills to do certain things, or even lack money to be able to develop those skills, which in that case is where any wealthy person can come in and try to fill such gap.
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September 19, 2018, 07:50:57 AM
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There are a lot of wrong statements in your post. A lot of wealthy people worked hard for that wealth, and no luck was involved. They deserve to live a comfortable life. A lot of poor people are not poor because they were unlucky, some are just lazy.

A typical example of this was when the Berlin Wall was broken down. Some of the people who was living in East Germany was simply not used to working hard and they were lazy too. So when the Wall came down, a lot of them went into poverty, because they were too lazy to work or they were not used to the concept of hard work = higher income, like in the west.

The Communist system in East Germany made them lazy and some of them could not handle the change. So, Capitalism is not all bad, people are encouraged to work harder for a chance of a better life. <Why should you give that away to people who might just be lazy?>

I give more than 10% of my income to charities that are helping poor people find jobs and a way to sustain them until they reach that goal. <I do not give to charities, where people are not encouraged to uplift themselves.> Teach them how to Fish!

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September 19, 2018, 08:15:16 AM
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It is still poor people who are making wrong decisions in their life and nothing else. If they ever got educated then they can have jobs in their hands and with that job they can literally start overcoming their life situation which is currently so called poor. I don't think that we should be doing something for them though we had money because you know what will happen after this? They will get used to it and they will start relying more on us rather than feign something by themselves. If they have got the art then tell them to do it and then pay. There is nothing like poerty in this world, there is only your own mistake if you are poor person.

Steve Jobs said once , if you born poor then its not your mistake, but if you die poor then its your mistake.
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September 19, 2018, 08:41:46 AM
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Like the saying "Teach them how to fish".

I'm not with anything with those wealthy people and the only lucky ones are those that were born in a rich family but look on the background story on how those people reached success and the life they are living now. Actually, they have no obligation for those less fortunate and I'm sure that they are helping them in some ways but they don't want to broadcast it. The problem also lies to the people who don't want to get out of the rat race and is all asking for help all the time but without making any efforts on their own.
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September 19, 2018, 09:03:20 AM
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Donating to charities is only partly solving the issue.

It's not even partly solving the 'issue'.

If we look at how much money globally has been donated to charities of all sorts, and the problems these charities are meant to tackle but aren't tackling in reality, it's pretty much a waste of time and money. How is it that after a few decades you still don't see that you're not solving the underlying problem, but just delay it at most in some fields?

People need a platform to build on so they can develop themselves and spread that positive vibe (remember, positivity and productivity incentivizes others to follow), not be pampered with pocket change and be left in the same situation for many more years. Or perhaps it's part of the system to keep people poor, because remember, poverty is a form of suppression in itself.

The more financial possibilities people have, the more power they obtain, and governments might not want that to happen.
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September 19, 2018, 09:05:09 AM
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First, I think OP should edit the eradicate in his title pose to either ameliorate/curtail or reduced, give it a soft landing because it can not be eradicated in any society. And, if I have to make inference from the bible, do we still remember the rich man and the poor man story?

There are a lot of wrong statements in your post. A lot of wealthy people worked hard for that wealth, and no luck was involved.

I think that there is also the place of luck in our lives and being rich. The difference is that, being ready to identify the luck; in which case, the rich could have been ready. Off course, when being ready/opportunity meets luck, it takes one to wealth.

So we have to live ready.
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September 19, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
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At all times there were both poor people and the rich, so I think even if people wanted to eradicate poverty, they would not have succeeded.

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September 19, 2018, 10:56:06 AM
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I think giving money to the poor won't solve poverty problem, because it can only help the poor for temporary, for long term the poor need steady job, so they can become independent and some if the people could become lazy if knowing they will be supported without need to do anything, so I think job opportunities is more important than giving money to them
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September 19, 2018, 11:00:35 AM
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Why is that when somebody is rich, that person has to be demanded to give to the poor? If the rich person earned his money ethically then I don't see any problem with that. If that person gives back to the community then great. If that person does not give back, that is his/her choice.
What should be demanded is for the government not to be corrupt and to spend hard-earned taxes from the people into giving it back in terms of education and everything that will lead to job generation. The government should also demand from corporations to give the right pay to their workers and not just whatever amount that is not fair for the type of job that they have. If they are contributing to the pollution, then the government should demand from businesses to offset that in other terms.
Needless to say, there are a lot of companies who are abusive and just focus on profit. Those are the ones that should be focused on. Like the recent case of a pharma company raising a drug price to up to 400% for no other reason but to profit, highly unethical.
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