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November 21, 2018, 05:42:46 AM
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Anyone hear anything on the actual 941 coming out yet?  Canaan lately has been most reasonable with price and reliability but I am still waiting to see a 30th at 2000 watt miner like they promised..

I imagine they are regrouping. They need to deliver an asic to compete with m10s, T3 at this point for industrial market. Plus their next release was anticipated to be the A911, a high efficiency unit..

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November 23, 2018, 12:46:12 AM
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Yea we need someone to make a damn miner that is actual cost effective already.  You have to be braindead to be spending $3000 for a t3 or $1200++ after the tariff and taxes for a s15 etc.  Buying a miner with a HOPE that the market will go up and you will profit is a risky way of doing business.  This ROI numbers are getting so ridiculous anymore I can't imagine anyone in the state residential wise is buying now.
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November 23, 2018, 03:32:54 AM
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Yea we need someone to make a damn miner that is actual cost effective already.  You have to be braindead to be spending $3000 for a t3 or $1200++ after the tariff and taxes for a s15 etc.  Buying a miner with a HOPE that the market will go up and you will profit is a risky way of doing business.  This ROI numbers are getting so ridiculous anymore I can't imagine anyone in the state residential wise is buying now.

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November 25, 2018, 04:06:12 AM
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Yea we need someone to make a damn miner that is actual cost effective already.  You have to be braindead to be spending $3000 for a t3 or $1200++ after the tariff and taxes for a s15 etc.  Buying a miner with a HOPE that the market will go up and you will profit is a risky way of doing business.  This ROI numbers are getting so ridiculous anymore I can't imagine anyone in the state residential wise is buying now.

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November 25, 2018, 05:09:09 AM
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Canaan is probably the best manufacturer price wise to drive entry in to the US. They just need to produce the hardware that will compete. Honestly, i started the group buy thread cause we can get a sick deal on the 32T but now that market is dipped we'll see how many we can get. We just can't advertise it. With the tariff it still hurts but is much easier to soak in bulk.

Canaan will have something, I wouldn't want to rush them but I know we're all anxious in the states for something fierce that will priced well. Honestly I think Canaan will pioneer pricing for the US as no one is going to drop over 1.5k on an asic in the US right now unless ROI is extremely attractive.

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November 25, 2018, 05:31:45 AM
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Canaan is probably the best manufacturer price wise to drive entry in to the US. They just need to produce the hardware that will compete. Honestly, i started the group buy thread cause we can get a sick deal on the 32T but now that market is dipped we'll see how many we can get. We just can't advertise it. With the tariff it still hurts but is much easier to soak in bulk.

Canaan will have something, I wouldn't want to rush them but I know we're all anxious in the states for something fierce that will priced well. Honestly I think Canaan will pioneer pricing for the US as no one is going to drop over 1.5k on an asic in the US right now unless ROI is extremely attractive.

Yeah the innosilicon which does 2100 watts and 43 th costs over 3k after the tax.  Basically too high.

I have three s9s  that cost me under 1k.  Same hash rate but 2k cheaper.

I have a good deal hosting them I pay 4 cents.  About 130 usd a month .

I can mine them for 15 months at 1950.   So buying new gear is really hard for me to justify.

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November 27, 2018, 03:12:27 PM
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A911 18th @ 1440w. same pricing as 921.

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November 27, 2018, 04:28:53 PM
Last edit: November 28, 2018, 09:15:33 AM by frodocooper
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A911 18th @ 1440w. same pricing as 921.

That's better but still too high.  Guessing we will see some firesales coming in the next few months if BTC stays right around here.
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November 28, 2018, 09:23:19 AM
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It looks like the A911 is simply an upgraded A851.

According to the A911's spec sheet, it does not use the A921's 7 nm A3206 chip, but instead uses the same 16 nm A3210M chip that is found in the A851. The A911 simply has 100 more of them, and most likely has an integrated PSU.
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November 28, 2018, 02:59:01 PM
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Interesting, the pictures in  the 911 spec sheet show it as having the usual PCIe jacks for power. Then again, in the past Canaan has not been the best at properly updating info on their site...

Considering it uses the same chips as the A8 series, wonder why they did not stick with the A8xx numbering? Call it a 861, 871, etc...

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November 28, 2018, 09:52:18 PM
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Interesting, the pictures in  the 911 spec sheet show it as having the usual PCIe jacks for power. Then again, in the past Canaan has not been the best at properly updating info on their site...

Those pictures appear to have been copied from their pages of the A8s. Even their page for the A921 is still using placeholder images that depict the A8.

Considering it uses the same chips as the A8 series, wonder why they did not stick with the A8xx numbering? Call it a 861, 871, etc...

Probably a combination of marketing strategy and the fact that the A911 will most likely follow the A921's form factor.

Marketing it as part of the A9 series allows them to price it higher than they could have if they released it as part of the A8 series. The A8 series and nomenclature have also been discontinued, so I'm guessing that Canaan didn't want to resurrect it for fear of being seen to have regressed in terms of product development.

Regarding the form factor, the A911 appears to have the same dimensions (37.8 cm x 17.0 cm x 15.5 cm) and uses the same fan as the A921, while being 0.8 kg heavier than the A921. So, either Canaan did not take the dimensions and mass of an integrated PSU into account, or the A911 will come with a discrete PSU bundled as part of the package. The latter now seems more likely to me, as the PSU is listed as a separate item on the A911's product page, and the A921's spec sheet also does not include the number of PCIe power connectors, and yet the A921 has ten of those.



At the time of writing, it appears that the A911 will have a greater range of voltage level settings and will run at lower clock speeds compared to the A921.

Canaan also appears to have two new series of miners in the pipeline — the Avalon LC3 series and the AllWinner H3 series.

A new miner belonging to the A9 series — currently called the A920 — also appears to be in development.
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November 28, 2018, 10:34:18 PM
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Very cool detailed information frodo, thanks..!!

The LC3 sounds like the litecoin miner that I've heard rumours about.

And the AllWinner.., maybe it is the 'television miner' or the 'mining warmer'?

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November 28, 2018, 11:52:57 PM
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And the AllWinner.., maybe it is the 'television miner' or the 'mining warmer'?

The Allwinner H3 is apparently not a distinct product from Canaan, but a platform on which Canaan seems to be seeking to build certain products on.

Allwinner is apparently a "fabless SoC developer based in Zhuhai, in the Guangdong province in China." They develop a series of low-cost, low-power ARM-based SoCs called the sunxi series.

The Allwinner H3 is actually an SoC featuring a quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU and a Mali-400 MP2 GPU from ARM. It is part of Allwinner's H series of SoCs that are tailored for use in OTT (over-the-top) set-top boxes and other similar home entertainment devices.

The references to sunxi, sunxi_cortexa7, and sunxi_cortexa7_DEVICE_sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc as configuration targets in Canaan's code concerning the Allwinner H3 indicate that Canaan is looking to integrate the Allwinner H3 SoC into some of their products. Given that the Allwinner H3 is targeted at home entertainment devices, I think it's safe to assume that Canaan is looking to integrate this SoC into their upcoming TV miner.

Interestingly though, Canaan seems to have integrated this code into new OpenWrt configuration files that reference the A8, the A9, and the A911. I do not yet know what to make of this.
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November 29, 2018, 04:06:19 PM
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We'll I hope it's 4k 3D. I'd personally eat that up quick.

Looks like Steve wants to move units, room for more inventory? Canaan seems to have a good plan for product line. I'm happy to hear what their bringing and doing. Thanks fc.

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November 29, 2018, 10:50:20 PM
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they are doing a flash sale 50 units for 200 each on the a921

to the states  it would be 12760 (tax of 27.6% included) plus shipping it is fairly cheap price for it.

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November 30, 2018, 02:05:17 AM
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I must had read the email wrong I though it would be on their MOQ. I'll see about adjusting our listing if needed. Thanks philipma

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November 30, 2018, 10:22:37 PM
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Well just got the email from Blokforge - not sure about others. Edit: Reference to retailers.

This is 399. This includes everything tariffs and taxes - does not specify shipping.

Notably though it may be a typo they call it the 921A, and it says 20+ TH/S @1700W.

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November 30, 2018, 10:43:54 PM
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Well just got the email from Blokforge - not sure about others.

This is 399. This includes everything tariffs and taxes - does not specify shipping.

Notably though it may be a typo they call it the 921A, and it says 20+ TH/S @1700W.

Yes, we just sent out corrected mailer before you posted this, it pulled wrong draft.  $349 for 921 @1800w
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November 30, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
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Yes, we just sent out corrected mailer before you posted this, it pulled wrong draft.  $349 for 921 @1800w

Sounds good I'll keep my eyes open.

Just checking as it seems there were multiple drafts. Price is even better. Is there a model "A" meeting those specs or where they just typos? Is that an idea of what the recent firmware upgrades can do for the 921 miner?

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December 01, 2018, 02:19:06 AM
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Sounds good I'll keep my eyes open.

Just checking as it seems there were multiple drafts. Price is even better. Is there a model "A" meeting those specs or where they just typos? Is that an idea of what the recent firmware upgrades can do for the 921 miner?

model a and spec was old draft, the firmware upgrades are for the 8 series at this time.
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