A Copper membership needs signature reductions

[Vod]

Look at this garbage:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032765.0

This person pays $15 and now has the motivation and authority to spam.    
This is going to be the next wave of spam for the forum - Copper Members posting garbage.

I believe a bitcointalk membership should include a basic signature - one line of plain text. That would be the "Member" rank.  A Copper membership allows you to buy a Member signature. Advancing above the Member rank allows signature perks. 

Let our senior ranks have more meaning.  Don't let newbies hustle in our clubhouse.

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[duythan1988]

Look at this garbage:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032765.0

This person pays $15 and now has the motivation and authority to spam.    
This is going to be the next wave of spam for the forum - Copper Members posting garbage.

I believe a bitcointalk membership should include a basic signature - one line of plain text. That would be the "Member" rank.  A Copper membership allows you to buy a Member signature. Advancing above the Member rank allows signature perks. 

Let our senior ranks have more meaning.  Don't let newbies hustle in our clubhouse.

You mean, a copper member has equal rights with a member. I am very happy for what you say

[HiDevin]

I think buying a copper membership is reasonable for its features.
Even though they feel the need that they can spam now, most bounties and signature campaigns now only accept Jr Members with 1 merit.

Plus this stops like 90% of spammers from spamming considering most people don't want to cough up 12$ in BTC ( at the moment ) to actually wear a signature for a bounty coin that
( might ) be worth something of value.

[playboy654]

Look at this garbage:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032765.0

This person pays $15 and now has the motivation and authority to spam.    
This is going to be the next wave of spam for the forum - Copper Members posting garbage.

I believe a bitcointalk membership should include a basic signature - one line of plain text. That would be the "Member" rank.  A Copper membership allows you to buy a Member signature. Advancing above the Member rank allows signature perks. 

Let our senior ranks have more meaning.  Don't let newbies hustle in our clubhouse.

You mean, a copper member has equal rights with a member. I am very happy for what you say

He meant to say that reomve the signature space of copper member which has same signature space of member rank.

[MagicSmoker]

Look at this garbage:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032765.0

This person pays $15 and now has the motivation and authority to spam.    
...

o lawd... 

I guess this is one of the unintended consequences. I was worried that 1 merit wouldn't present much of an obstacle, but it turns out that buying your way out of newbie hell is a lot easier.

[dasunlanka]

Look at this garbage:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032765.0

This person pays $15 and now has the motivation and authority to spam.    

Yes that is funny. spamming is prohibited here but if you can pay for it, it is okay.If bounty managers accept this copper membership, new merit rules will be useless, everyone will buy copper membership and make post,contribute to bounty and spam like before.

[LoyceV]

At least they have something to lose now, their 0.002BTC won't come back when they get banned.

[duythan1988]

o lawd... 

I guess this is one of the unintended consequences. I was worried that 1 merit wouldn't present much of an obstacle, but it turns out that buying your way out of newbie hell is a lot easier.

Not everyone can pay for spam. We can remove 1 person with multiple bitcointlk accounts

[HiDevin]

At least they have something to lose now, their 0.002BTC won't come back when they get banned.

That's true too, most spammers probably can't afford spending 0.002 on multiple accounts and risk all their accounts being banned.

o lawd...  

I guess this is one of the unintended consequences. I was worried that 1 merit wouldn't present much of an obstacle, but it turns out that buying your way out of newbie hell is a lot easier.

If you look into most bounties, they are mostly accepting Jr Members now with 1 merit instead of accepting Copper Members with 0 merits.

Yes that is funny. spamming is prohibited here but if you can pay for it, it is okay.If bounty manages accept this copper membership, new merit rules will be useless, everyone will buy copper membership and make post,contribute to bounty and spam like before.

Hopefully it doesn't turn this way in the future, if it does then Vod's idea would most likely be implemented to be honest.

I think that the 1 merit hurdle isn't even that bad if you can just talk with the people here ( even though some of them comes off as harsh because you or some others might be a bounty hunter).

[Jet Cash]

I believe a bitcointalk membership should include a basic signature - one line of plain text. That would be the "Member" rank.  A Copper membership allows you to buy a Member signature. Advancing above the Member rank allows signature perks. 

If I keep agreeing with you, then they are going to think I'm your alt.

Actually Vod Cash would be a good name for a crypto.

[HiDevin]

I believe a bitcointalk membership should include a basic signature - one line of plain text. That would be the "Member" rank.  A Copper membership allows you to buy a Member signature. Advancing above the Member rank allows signature perks. 

If I keep agreeing with you, then they are going to think I'm your alt.

Actually Vod Cash would be a good name for a crypto.

To be honest, we need some kind of incentive to actually have the Copper membership to exist, otherwise why is it there? What purpose would it make?

Just to add a couple of words under your name, and clarify that you support the forum? Then there should be a "small" donator rank but that's already been discussed so many times.

[999coins]

How can i buy a cooper account or membership?

[HiDevin]

How can i buy a cooper account or membership?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

Right here.

[TryNinja]

To be honest, we need some kind of incentive to actually have the Copper membership to exist, otherwise why is it there? What purpose would it make?

Just to add a couple of words under your name, and clarify that you support the forum? Then there should be a "small" donator rank but that's already been discussed so many times.

There is already a good incentive, which is: enable them to post images. If you are a legit project/ICO, you won't mind paying $15 to make a cool ANN thread instead of having to wait 30 days to become a Jr. Member (and now, get 1 merit).

Campaign managers should avoid accepting users who can wear their signature only because they have bought Copper Membership but are not in the actual rank that should make them able to wear it. If a Campaign (Signature/Bounty) starts to accept users with Copper Membership only because they can wear the signature then the recent Newbie and Jr. member restrictions are going to be useless.

They should look at earned merits instead of rank. Mane old users who only spam can join signatures because they got their airdropped merit. But it doesn't mean they deserve it.

[jackg]

This feels a lot like we're trying to scam newbies. Only the new scammers are the ones we once trusted...

Pay $15 dollars and get a good signature, then wake up tomorrow and see that it's gone! Unless we let them all have a refund, this isn't going to work well at all!

[Alone055]

Campaign managers should avoid accepting users who can wear their signature only because they have bought Copper Membership but are not in the actual rank that should make them able to wear it. If a Campaign (Signature/Bounty) starts to accept users with Copper Membership only because they can wear the signature then the recent Newbie and Jr. member restrictions are going to be useless.

[HiDevin]

To be honest, we need some kind of incentive to actually have the Copper membership to exist, otherwise why is it there? What purpose would it make?

Just to add a couple of words under your name, and clarify that you support the forum? Then there should be a "small" donator rank but that's already been discussed so many times.

There is already a good incentive, which is: enable them to post images. If you are a legit project/ICO, you won't mind paying $15 to make a cool ANN thread instead of having to wait for 30 waits to become a Jr. Member (and now, get 1 merit).

I'm talking about what Vod and Jet Cash is saying in the start,

I believe a bitcointalk membership should include a basic signature - one line of plain text. That would be the "Member" rank.  A Copper membership allows you to buy a Member signature. Advancing above the Member rank allows signature perks.  

meaning that they only want Copper Member to be just one line of plain text.

edit: Unless Vod meant that Copper Member should just not include signature perks, then I understand what you mean now.

meaning that they only want Copper Member to be just one line of plain text.

Vod and Jet Cash aren't suggesting this as the only perk. They are suggesting that they downgrade the signature of the Copper Members from Member-like to a single one-line text. They still have the can-post-images advantage.

edit2: I like how right as I said that you sent that message LOL. I see what you mean though, and I agree with that if the spamming gets back to where it was, but let it settle down for like a month or so before taking action.

[TryNinja]

meaning that they only want Copper Member to be just one line of plain text.

As I said, people usually (or they should) buy Copper Member to be able to post images, which is the main reason it was created. It shouldn't matter if they are able to use a Member-like signature or just one line of plain text.

Vod and Jet Cash aren't suggesting this as the only perk. They are suggesting that they downgrade the signature of the Copper Members from Member-like to a single one-line text. They still have the can-post-images advantage.

[dasunlanka]

How can i buy a cooper account or membership?

actually you don't want it because you already have Member rank on your profile.
If anyone interested they can buy it here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

[fudster]

Its cheaper for them right now ias its just $15 but soon when BTC price go up, its not just going to be $15, it could go up to hundred or more. They could lose $500 even more to pay for that copper membership.

If there is a record of BTC addresses they use to pay for the copper membership, it might be easier to track who'se who later on.