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In my country the inflation rate averaged between 1% to 3% per year over the last 5 years. So whatever investments I had to make, I had to beat inflation for me to say that I am moving forward. I am one of the fortunate people who invested in Bitcoin, when the price was around $400 per coin. Since then I have been smashing inflation on my investments made into Bitcoin. <Even after taxes> In 2017 I obliterated inflation and I sold some coins, which was re-invested into other investments that also beat inflation. I can with all honesty say, that I am not bothered with inflation, even if it goes up to 100% for the next few years. Let's celebrate the fact that Bitcoin enabled us to beat inflation for the last couple of years. <Well most of us, because we have to take into account that a lot of people have hyperinflation in their countries>
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September 20, 2018, 08:46:04 AM |
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There are a lot of investments which have managed to beat inflation, but Bitcoin may not be necessarily one of them. The reason I say that is we do not have enough data. You cannot conclude that basis Bitcoin's price increase in 2017. Equities, when you look at it over a period of time (decades) definitely has given returns higher than inflation.
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I think what you are saying is very controversial. Yes, Bitcoin by nature is a deflater, but still it is not widespread as the usual fiat money. Plus its legal status is still under question in many countries and jurisdictions. I am optimistic about future of cryptocurrency, not sure about Bitcoin though.
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In my country the inflation rate averaged between 1% to 3% per year over the last 5 years. So whatever investments I had to make, I had to beat inflation for me to say that I am moving forward. I am one of the fortunate people who invested in Bitcoin, when the price was around $400 per coin. Since then I have been smashing inflation on my investments made into Bitcoin. <Even after taxes> In 2017 I obliterated inflation and I sold some coins, which was re-invested into other investments that also beat inflation. I can with all honesty say, that I am not bothered with inflation, even if it goes up to 100% for the next few years. Let's celebrate the fact that Bitcoin enabled us to beat inflation for the last couple of years. <Well most of us, because we have to take into account that a lot of people have hyperinflation in their countries> Funny you mentioned about Bitcoin as as inflation killer because I also have made significant gains using it to beat our inflation rate here. Last 2 years was worst, ranging from 3%-4% so I'm glad I made the switch in late 2015 (after I've moved out of corporate world). Common sense will dictate that if I have investment my money on banks alone in 2015, I can't cope up with our inflation rate as we have one of the worst in Asia. Let this be another lessons for newbie investors that crypto is one of the best hedge against inflation. I'm not saying its the best, because there's a lot of investments you can go around, but crypto has become a good leverage if you really wanted to stay above financially and fight inflation in the next coming years.
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September 20, 2018, 11:17:19 AM |
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We can beat inflation if bitcoin/altcoin prices rise. Otherwise, we only try to beat breakeven Generally speaking, unconventional assets tend to bring higher rates of return while facing higher risk.
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If we talk about the financial component of bitcoin, then inflation does not threaten bitcoin in principle. Since bitcoin depreciation is not possible. Because bitcoins have a certain limit 21 000 000. What I can not say for the Fiat money system, which is so arranged that every year the national money loses its value. If we talk about speculation and profit, which you are talking about, it is very cool that you managed to earn a lot of money. Your investment has paid off.
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September 20, 2018, 09:00:31 PM |
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In my country the inflation rate averaged between 1% to 3% per year over the last 5 years. So whatever investments I had to make, I had to beat inflation for me to say that I am moving forward. I am one of the fortunate people who invested in Bitcoin, when the price was around $400 per coin. Since then I have been smashing inflation on my investments made into Bitcoin. <Even after taxes> In 2017 I obliterated inflation and I sold some coins, which was re-invested into other investments that also beat inflation. I can with all honesty say, that I am not bothered with inflation, even if it goes up to 100% for the next few years. Let's celebrate the fact that Bitcoin enabled us to beat inflation for the last couple of years. <Well most of us, because we have to take into account that a lot of people have hyperinflation in their countries> You make a good point about how investment returns should be calculated after inflation adjustment. I see a lot of people looking at their savings accounts as some way to invest in the long run, while in reality, they are actually losing money from inflation overall. It's also important to note that the CPI index generated by governments may not be reflective of the actual inflation going on. Bitcoin is a good hedge against fiat inflation given that it's completely independent from fiat and has a capped supply, which essentially means that in the long run, as long as adoption increases or stays the same, bitcoin should hold its value relatively stably. It's these properties that I think make bitcoin extremely useful for those in countries plagued by hyperinflation, as a safe haven to store wealth in.
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September 20, 2018, 09:58:56 PM |
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Yes naturally bitcoin has no business with inflation or deflation. It stands on its own and economic indicators don't affect it just like fiat which the government can decide to do anything with.
Anyway, the angle I think you are also talking about is , you have made much money with bitcoin that you can get just anything you want despite inflation.
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I doubt it could be said as inflation killer because bitcoin is also not too stable, if you invest in the right time then it could help you from inflation, invest in the wrong time it will cause you losing money, and it's a bit dangerous to try to beat inflation with bitcoin, the price movement is too wild
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The bitcoin mining system is basically a slow inflation that gets slower with time by the time it stops inflating we will all be long dead. So i don't really see how it is the inflation killer yet. But its controlled inflation is a lot better for holders then fiat obviously
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Kakmakr (OP)
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September 21, 2018, 05:20:26 AM |
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In my country the inflation rate averaged between 1% to 3% per year over the last 5 years. So whatever investments I had to make, I had to beat inflation for me to say that I am moving forward. I am one of the fortunate people who invested in Bitcoin, when the price was around $400 per coin. Since then I have been smashing inflation on my investments made into Bitcoin. <Even after taxes> In 2017 I obliterated inflation and I sold some coins, which was re-invested into other investments that also beat inflation. I can with all honesty say, that I am not bothered with inflation, even if it goes up to 100% for the next few years. Let's celebrate the fact that Bitcoin enabled us to beat inflation for the last couple of years. <Well most of us, because we have to take into account that a lot of people have hyperinflation in their countries> You make a good point about how investment returns should be calculated after inflation adjustment. I see a lot of people looking at their savings accounts as some way to invest in the long run, while in reality, they are actually losing money from inflation overall. It's also important to note that the CPI index generated by governments may not be reflective of the actual inflation going on. Bitcoin is a good hedge against fiat inflation given that it's completely independent from fiat and has a capped supply, which essentially means that in the long run, as long as adoption increases or stays the same, bitcoin should hold its value relatively stably. It's these properties that I think make bitcoin extremely useful for those in countries plagued by hyperinflation, as a safe haven to store wealth in. You know, it is also not just the inflation that are killing most people. The government take their share of taxes from the profits from the different types of investments too, so you need to add the tax onto the inflation, to see what your real profits was. In a lot of instances, people are actually losing money, by investing it in safe investment options with low returns. These types of investments, always reminds me of the little mouse, running inside a wheel , in his little cage. You are running, but you are not going anywhere. Bitcoin returns beats inflation and taxes and breaks out of the little cage.
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The main problem for many countries is the devaluation of their local currencies comparing to USD essentially which worsen the economy especially if most of goods are imported. Bitcoin is a good and relatively stable investment if the price keeps at this level.
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In my country the inflation rate averaged between 1% to 3% per year over the last 5 years. So whatever investments I had to make, I had to beat inflation for me to say that I am moving forward. I am one of the fortunate people who invested in Bitcoin, when the price was around $400 per coin. Since then I have been smashing inflation on my investments made into Bitcoin. <Even after taxes> In 2017 I obliterated inflation and I sold some coins, which was re-invested into other investments that also beat inflation. I can with all honesty say, that I am not bothered with inflation, even if it goes up to 100% for the next few years. Let's celebrate the fact that Bitcoin enabled us to beat inflation for the last couple of years. <Well most of us, because we have to take into account that a lot of people have hyperinflation in their countries> If other currencies experience inflation, then Bitcoin only knows deflation or reduced bitcoin production which makes the value of bitcoin increasingly high, bitcoin experiences what is called bitcoin halvings
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September 21, 2018, 06:47:21 AM |
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The main problem for many countries is the devaluation of their local currencies comparing to USD essentially which worsen the economy especially if most of goods are imported. Bitcoin is a good and relatively stable investment if the price keeps at this level.
Yes, and the funny thing is, people are simply ignoring that for some reason. If you looked at Bitcoin as a long-term investment and you invested a few years ago, then inflation or the devaluation of your local currency would be a non-issue for you. You would have used Bitcoin as a safe haven against that and the value of your bitcoins would have increased in value. Fortunately a lot of people realized it and they invested their local currency in Bitcoin and they are not feeling the pressure of inflation or hyper inflation. The devaluation of their local currency is actually a bonus for them, because they get more of their local currency for the bitcoins that they sell now.
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September 21, 2018, 07:04:22 AM |
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Real estate investments can also beat inflation.Bitcoin isn't unique as the one and only "inflation killer". By the way,after several years,bitcoin will become so popular that the bitcoin price movement itslef will be considered "inflation/deflation".How can you handle inflation,when the bitcoin price does down (this would be the new "cryptoinflation")?
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September 21, 2018, 07:32:38 AM |
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Counting inflation is a very tricky technology. The result is a calculation of the average temperature in the hospital. For example, gadgets are becoming cheaper each year, and products are becoming more expensive. On average, inflation is not high, but these figures do not reflect real numbers
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September 21, 2018, 09:54:06 PM |
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Yes naturally bitcoin has no business with inflation or deflation. It stands on its own and economic indicators don't affect it just like fiat which the government can decide to do anything with.
Anyway, the angle I think you are also talking about is , you have made much money with bitcoin that you can get just anything you want despite inflation.
мEverything you say is correct. Now bitcoin and other altcoins are in an excellent position. I'm not saying that bears go and bulls come. I'm just trying to write that you have great taste.
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September 22, 2018, 03:06:20 AM |
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Yes naturally bitcoin has no business with inflation or deflation. It stands on its own and economic indicators don't affect it just like fiat which the government can decide to do anything with.
Anyway, the angle I think you are also talking about is , you have made much money with bitcoin that you can get just anything you want despite inflation.
мEverything you say is correct. Now bitcoin and other altcoins are in an excellent position. I'm not saying that bears go and bulls come. I'm just trying to write that you have great taste. with significant increases in bitcoin prices, i think we can break inflation in social life, so that it has no effect on our lives. because we know percentage of inflation is smaller if btc price increases significantly
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September 22, 2018, 03:37:20 AM |
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Bitcoin is the one which kill the inflation like inflation starts when the people spend money on extra imported things then it's increase the inflation rate and the crypto is not participating n inflation but on the other side it is beneficial for the people as their source of income.
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September 22, 2018, 09:57:28 AM |
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In my country the inflation rate averaged between 1% to 3% per year over the last 5 years. So whatever investments I had to make, I had to beat inflation for me to say that I am moving forward. I am one of the fortunate people who invested in Bitcoin, when the price was around $400 per coin. Since then I have been smashing inflation on my investments made into Bitcoin. <Even after taxes> In 2017 I obliterated inflation and I sold some coins, which was re-invested into other investments that also beat inflation. I can with all honesty say, that I am not bothered with inflation, even if it goes up to 100% for the next few years. Let's celebrate the fact that Bitcoin enabled us to beat inflation for the last couple of years. <Well most of us, because we have to take into account that a lot of people have hyperinflation in their countries> You know, inflation is not terrible. Even putting money in the bank, buying bonds and other, in most countries will allow to exceed inflation. Bitcoin will help to resolve the issue of devaluation of the local currency. I think that the situation in Venezuela, Turkey, Argentina, Russia, Ukraine will be a good example.
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