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September 20, 2018, 01:04:39 PM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

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September 20, 2018, 07:31:44 PM
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There are always 2 sides to the story. What about gold or fiat? It didn't create an environment for violence and oppression? Again trying to use the excuse of "Bitcoin is for criminals" without substance. Since you're referencing to the ISIS, ok so, the FATF could make an end for ISIS + Bitcoin in 1 or 2 months, what you say.

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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

regards

Is it even making sense to you?? Isn't it possible without cryptos as well?? Any terrorist group can capture a region and start their own currency system even in fiat, why do they need crypto for that??

What is your ground of expression??

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September 20, 2018, 08:03:51 PM
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Even without cryptocurrencies, the world is already in shambles and is sometimes supported by lawmakers and fiat. Terrorism was active even before the advent of bitcoin, and how do you think they were able to perpetrate their schemes? The human society is already a crooked and nasty place to belong even before paper money is invented, so the assumption that crypto created evil and waves of hate is just plain wrong. It [crypto] can be used as a medium of exchange for illegal arms and the likes but it will never be the cause of terrorism and violence.

 
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September 20, 2018, 08:14:19 PM
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I have long understood one important thought. The state is a system with clear rules. Violators will be punished. It is these rules and laws that allow one to have a large profit, and the other is strictly prohibited. Court and prison. Unfortunately, in today's world it is a big problem that violates the rules of the Constitution. Freedom
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September 20, 2018, 09:00:40 PM
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a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.
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... or people in enslaved, shithole countries can use crypto as a currency of choice to escape hyperinflation (Venezuela) or government seizures (see Cyprus raid on savings 2013).

+ what others already said.

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September 20, 2018, 09:04:04 PM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

regards

Do you even think before you start typing? How does cryptocurrency enable this rather than fiat currency? Fiat currency is forced upon the population by governments which barely have the support of the people. How exactly are humans subjected to violence and suppression of their rights because of cryptocurrency, how can you make such absurd statements without even backing it up with facts? Were you dropped on your head shortly after birth?


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September 20, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

regards

Is it even making sense to you?? Isn't it possible without cryptos as well?? Any terrorist group can capture a region and start their own currency system even in fiat, why do they need crypto for that??

What is your ground of expression??

jes but crypto is weakening the western humanist democracies they are the cornerstone of global humanism currently, thats my thought. nevertheless i dont think we can do much about it.

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September 20, 2018, 10:58:14 PM
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Yes, that is indeed true, and Crypto cannot be limited in its use, and many people use it in bad things and activities, but here Crypto has many benefits.

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jes but crypto is weakening the western humanist democracies they are the cornerstone of global humanism currently, thats my thought. nevertheless i dont think we can do much about it.

Not really. One could argue the opposite - cryptos represent ultimate (financial) freedom, one of the cornerstone of western civilisation.

Anyhow, 'humanist democracies' have been weakened themselves for much longer than crypto is around. I'd like to think it's a natural cycle.

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September 20, 2018, 11:00:51 PM
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Base on some research that through buying and selling firearms illegally in the black market or in the deepweb, they use cryptocurrency as payment so there would be no track if in case fbi insist,  and for sure, all terrorists does the same and isis is one of it.  But terrorist can only conquer weak countries not by crypto but by force.

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a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

A cryptocurrency?  Singular?  How would you only enforce one cryptocurrency when you can freely trade them for others?  If you were some sort of totalitarian warlord who genuinely wanted to control people, surely the thing you would choose to enforce would be a token that isn't quite so easily exchangeable.  Crypto can do a great many things, but it would probably be a poor mechanism for suppressing people.  Traditional forms of currency are much better suited to that task. 

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September 20, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

regards
I get sad when high ranked member on this forum share this kinda post and comment about cryptocurrency. These activities existed before the emergence of cryptocurrency. If we in the crypto world are sharing such info about cryptocurrency, what do you expect the layman to accept and start using cryptocurrency??

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jes but crypto is weakening the western humanist democracies they are the cornerstone of global humanism currently, thats my thought. nevertheless i dont think we can do much about it.

Not really. One could argue the opposite - cryptos represent ultimate (financial) freedom, one of the cornerstone of western civilisation.

Anyhow, 'humanist democracies' have been weakened themselves for much longer than crypto is around. I'd like to think it's a natural cycle.

nope cryptos might weaken massively the western military budget, that was used to enforce human rights globally. nevertheless there will be some kind of rebalancing,

nevertheless one of the biggest threats i think is that if the usa, and all that once was the imperialistic west or usa, disappears it might become economically profitable to enslave people again. or imprission them under a dictatorial rule

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I think it's only a small part, some parties use bitcoin to discriminate and intimidate weak groups. they ruined the good name of bitcoin.

what do you know about isis? do you have information that isis using bitcoin to intimidate weak groups?

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September 20, 2018, 11:44:55 PM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

regards
I get sad when high ranked member on this forum share this kinda post and comment about cryptocurrency. These activities existed before the emergence of cryptocurrency. If we in the crypto world are sharing such info about cryptocurrency, what do you expect the layman to accept and start using cryptocurrency??

do you want to enforce some kind of thought police?

i didnt said it can be prevented or avoided.

problem is that in an absence of usa or western humanism you will have to look for new protectors.

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nope cryptos might weaken massively the western military budget...

How? Explain the mechanism please.

nevertheless one of the biggest threats i think is that if the usa, and all that once was the imperialistic west or usa, disappears it might become economically profitable to enslave people again. or imprission them under a dictatorial rule

Utterly confused. If you see USA as a major threat (I can see why), then who did view as protector of 'humanist democracy' in your previous posts? Slovakia?


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September 21, 2018, 08:14:17 AM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

regards

Without crypto, violence is still common. How can you say that crypto supports the suppression of violence in an area while the violence has occurred when crypto has not yet appeared.
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September 21, 2018, 10:05:56 AM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

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Without crypto, violence is still common. How can you say that crypto supports the suppression of violence in an area while the violence has occurred when crypto has not yet appeared.

its because there wont be a use as world police anymore.

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September 22, 2018, 01:47:14 AM
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the decentralisation from the humanistic oriented states, through crypto

is creating an environment where violence and surpression of humans for profit gains is being supported.

a group of armed people like "isis" could therefore enslave and surpress a region and enforce a cryptocurrency on that region.

making the western humanist states unable to do something against it.

regards
That's just an isolated case; an outlier if one may say. Bitcoin is still doing its intended purpose, that is to be a p2p cash payment option and as a store of value. Also, I doubt that those terrorist utilize their bitcoins well. In some countries, it is hard to convert them to fiat and I think countries in the middle east is one of them.
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