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September 21, 2018, 09:16:57 AM
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The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) recently said it is about achieving the goal of setting a set of Anti-Money Laundering (AML) standards for Cryptocurrencies that can be implemented globally, for me this is good news, what do you think? See link below:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/international-anti-money-laundering-standards-for-crypto-expected-in-october
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September 21, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
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How is this supposed to work exactly? Regulations can only touch the centralized exchanges, whoever is not willing to share his personal info is already using P2P and decentralized exchanges and that won't change anything.
I agree that this might make people trust bitcoin and crypto more because they'll know It's not a scam etc. but other then that, this defeats the whole purpose of using bitcoin.

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September 21, 2018, 01:04:05 PM
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This implementation is good however they can't monitor everything in this space since there are privacy coins and decentralized exchanges, however on the other side this will slowly boost confidence for new investors for they knew this industry is slowly regulating. 

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September 21, 2018, 01:10:15 PM
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The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) recently said it is about achieving the goal of setting a set of Anti-Money Laundering (AML) standards for Cryptocurrencies that can be implemented globally, for me this is good news, what do you think? See link below:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/international-anti-money-laundering-standards-for-crypto-expected-in-october

The FATF probably has no clue about what they are talking about. They don't understand decentralization. You cannot have AML norms implemented for all cryptocurrencies. At best, you could have such regulations at centralized exchanges and payment processors. That really doesn't go the full distance.


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September 21, 2018, 01:11:56 PM
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That's what I'm talking about! After reading this news, it gets in to my nerve and if that goes well, we can see an upward momentum by the end of this year. Achieving the goal of setting a set of Anti-Money Laundering (AML) standards for cryptocurrencies might be a hard task and needs an approval globally from the government but this will be a stepping stone for this industry to grow and evolve. Month of October will be exciting and all investors will surely look forward in to that AML rules and regulations.
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September 21, 2018, 01:12:57 PM
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They will fail so miserably ...

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September 21, 2018, 01:55:25 PM
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I don't think countries all over the world will end up in an agreement. They cannot even get together to decide what to do with global warming or if global warming is even real or just a hoax to push a certain agenda.

It's basically impossible to have a "global money laundering standard". There will always be countries that will have their own view on their jurisdiction and unless the bigger countries want to bully them into accepting them (which is not good for a countrie's rep) there will be places were bitcoin owners aren't treated as criminals by default.
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September 21, 2018, 01:57:21 PM
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I think that's very good news. Finally, cryptocurrencies have received the necessary regulation and now the market will become cleaner.

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September 21, 2018, 02:05:05 PM
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I don't think countries all over the world will end up in an agreement. They cannot even get together to decide what to do with global warming or if global warming is even real or just a hoax to push a certain agenda.

It's basically impossible to have a "global money laundering standard". There will always be countries that will have their own view on their jurisdiction and unless the bigger countries want to bully them into accepting them (which is not good for a countrie's rep) there will be places were bitcoin owners aren't treated as criminals by default.

I also think there will be no global rule for bitcoin. There will be some countries don't implement the standards. Those country will be blacklisted and peoples from those countries might have some troubles when they want to make transactions.
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September 21, 2018, 02:17:15 PM
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This whole money laundering and using bitcoin when claimed in the media always makes me laugh

If governments cared about money laundering, wouldn't HSBC have received more than a slap on the wrist for their criminal activity?
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September 21, 2018, 02:30:37 PM
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 INTERNATIONAL ANTI-MONEY LAUNDERING STANDARDS FOR CRYPTO
The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) said it is getting closer to the establishment of a global set of anti-money laundering (AML) standards for cryptocurrencies, Financial Times reported September 19.

The FATF is an international organization established in 1989 at the initiative of the G7 in order to develop policies and standards to fight money laundering. The agency’s scope of activities further expanded to combat terrorism financing. The FATF currently comprises 35 member jurisdictions and 2 regional organizations.

The agency’s president Marshall Billingslea reportedly said that he expects the coordination of a series of standards that will close “gaps” in global AML standards at an FATF plenary in October.

At that time, the FATF will purportedly discuss which existing standards should be adapted to digital currencies, as well as revise the assessment methods of how countries implement those standards. Billingslea also outlined the importance of developing standards that can be applied in a uniform manner.

According to Billingslea, current AML standards and regimes for cryptocurrencies are “very much a patchwork quilt or spotty process,” which is “creating significant vulnerabilities for both national and international financial systems”. Billingslea, noted that despite the risks related to this kind of assets, digital currency as an asset class presents “a great opportunity.”
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September 21, 2018, 03:55:06 PM
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I think to achieve this FATF would have to target the various exchanges, but the challenge here is that some countries will not agree to some of the terms and even some of the countries that agree to go with the rules may not be able to enforce it. However, it is still a very good news for Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies at large.
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September 21, 2018, 04:15:35 PM
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The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) recently said it is about achieving the goal of setting a set of Anti-Money Laundering (AML) standards for Cryptocurrencies that can be implemented globally, for me this is good news, what do you think? See link below:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/international-anti-money-laundering-standards-for-crypto-expected-in-october

Reading the article, I would conclude that its just a mere speculation on their own part to send some panic into the market and see the overall effect when they are coming with their proposal and more so I feel its a way to send the message to the market that the money bags should start looking elsewhere and by the time they launch, they can claim credit for its effectiveness whereas their target culprit had already left the market for them.

When this come into play, nothing significant is expected to change in the short term because countries that are members would be expected to come up with their own framework for implementing the proposals.
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September 21, 2018, 07:39:20 PM
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The only thing that will be affected by what the FATF wants to achieve are the exchanges who operate with cryptocurrencies and not necessarily the cryptocurrencies per se. The initiative is good and what they want to implement is also good, but knowing the nature of most cryptocurrencies, they really won't solve anything and the best they can get to are exchanges that are still being used for money laundering and fraud due to regulations that has some holes that can be circumvented easily.

If they really are serious in their effort to prevent such, collaborative effort is needed in order to establish a standard to combat fraud and money laundering among entities that deal with cryptocurrencies.

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September 23, 2018, 10:13:36 PM
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I'm just wondering if they will implement this AML for all the centralized exchanges (I don't think it's possible to implement it, even just for the centralized exchanges), it it possible that centralized exchanges with AML and decentralized exchanges without AML will live parallel to each other?
Average Joes will use AML exchanges and others will use the decentralized ones?
Will decentralized exchanges be able to deal with fiat, or they will only exchange cryptos?
I don't think that exchanges who want to deal with fiat too would be able to escape the implementation of the AML/KYC/ETC...
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They can shove these Anti-Money laundering standards right up their asses.  

You guys that want the government regulating crypto are completely insane or ignorant to the facts of what governments/central bankers have been doing over the last few decades.   The government is not our friend.  They actively kill and rob us.  Why in the hell are you guys inviting the wolf into the hen house.  

The way of the future is by privacy coins just as another member in this thread stated.  The real reason you know the privacy coins will prevail is because its the us government selling the heroin from the poppy fields in Afghanistan.  They will need a way to transact once paper is gone.  

Monero for the win.  Potential #1 coin.  The no doubt have the back door.  They also have code on all of our processors so they have infiltrated to the deepest levels.  

Fight against KYC/AML and any other measures they take to identify us and our funds.  Once they can identify who own what wallet it's game over.  They have implemented the biggest financial control mechanism the world has ever seen. 
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