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September 21, 2018, 11:26:40 AM
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I was looking for an easy way to buy products on Amazon with bitcoin.

As they don't accept bitcoins directly i soon found the likes of https://purse.io/, but the reviews people have given this site and others that function the same way (Giftcards that people spend on your products are often carded/product never arrives/et al) didn't particularly satisfy me.

Copay however offers to sell you *legit* Amazon gifcards, at a 1:1 ratio, with no KYC/third parties required whatsoever - correct?

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You can purchase Amazon.com Gift Card value in penny increments between $1.00 and $500.00.
https://blog.bitpay.com/buy-amazon-gift-cards-with-bitcoin/
1-500$ a day. Seems OK. what exactly are the fees on this is what i'm also pretty curious about..

The blogpost is pretty dated - 2016, so i'm wondering how accurate this still is.


Especially with sites like https://www.gyft.com/ no longer offering Amazon GC (for bitcoin), because (i believe) they got restricted by Amazon from doing so. Why has this not happend to Copay & co? They offer the exact same service as far as i can see.



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September 21, 2018, 12:12:09 PM
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Using Purse.io if the item never arrives, the bitcoins aren't released to the user who bought your item, so not a big deal. The guy is just wasting his time. Additionally, the user needs to provide the tracking ID.

I used few times Purse, to spend bitcoins and also to spend some amazon gift cards. I didn't think about stolen cards etc. I started to worry too since. But I have been told, it's safer to by item "shipped by Amazon". In any case, you don't deal with a person directly, you deal with Purse, so Purse if responsible. And you can also prove your case by showing your account history, to show you used Purse and it isn't you who used a fraudulent purchase.

As for Copay, sorry I don't know, but if it sells Amazon GC, it's surely for the .com Amazon version

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September 21, 2018, 12:20:08 PM
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I'm not sure about Copay either but here is what I suggest:

1. Use Bitrefill. It's a very reputable service, I used them multiple times for different products and I never had an issue.
2. If you want cheaper gift cards (80-85%), contact Podgor: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789747.0 He have gift cards/balance on a regular basis.

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September 21, 2018, 12:50:42 PM
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Using Purse.io if the item never arrives, the bitcoins aren't released to the user who bought your item, so not a big deal. The guy is just wasting his time. Additionally, the user needs to provide the tracking ID.

I used few times Purse, to spend bitcoins and also to spend some amazon gift cards. I didn't think about stolen cards etc. I started to worry too since. But I have been told, it's safer to by item "shipped by Amazon". In any case, you don't deal with a person directly, you deal with Purse, so Purse if responsible. And you can also prove your case by showing your account history, to show you used Purse and it isn't you who used a fraudulent purchase.

As for Copay, sorry I don't know, but if it sells Amazon GC, it's surely for the .com Amazon version

Hmm okay, so you might not be dealing with a user directly, but someone on the other end is buying the product you listed & shipping it to you, right? How about the adresses it needs to be shipped to? They have to fill those in too right? I'm not so sure if that's something i'd approve of.

I'm not sure about Copay either but here is what I suggest:

1. Use Bitrefill. It's a very reputable service, I used them multiple times for different products and I never had an issue.
2. If you want cheaper gift cards (80-85%), contact Podgor: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789747.0 He have gift cards/balance on a regular basis.
I'm not really a big fan of P2P deals since those usually end up going wrong, or have a big potential to.

Bitrefill looks pretty good. It's kind of confusing though, first the code is valid for all Amazon.com stores, but when you go to the USA section & actually try to order one it explicitely says that it is only valid for *usa amazon.

But when you then switch to the german "version/card", it doesn't say that.

The USA GC is simply called "Amazon USA", while the German version is called "Amazon PIN", and the UK version "Amazon UK" (Does this mean that the UK& GER version have no restrictions, and can be used everywhere?)


I guess i'll try bitrefill GER/UK with a small amount and see if it actually works.

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September 21, 2018, 02:52:13 PM
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Hmm okay, so you might not be dealing with a user directly, but someone on the other end is buying the product you listed & shipping it to you, right? How about the adresses it needs to be shipped to? They have to fill those in too right? I'm not so sure if that's something i'd approve of.


No, they don't have to fill out your address. They can't know it, only you. Because you basically create a wishlist and share its URL on Purse.io. The buyer is just clicking a "buy" button to pay and nothing more. Amazon then ship the item to the address given on your profile information Wink

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September 21, 2018, 07:33:50 PM
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I've used Copay once for a US Amazon gift card after everywhere else was shut down. It was pretty much instant and worked fine. No fees other than their stupid network ones.

I've no idea how they managed to keep that channel open when everywhere else closed. I guess since it's them directly as opposed to some random creeps they might be in better standing with Amazon overall, though I don't know why they restricted the sales in the first place.

Never used Purse and stuff. If I wanted an Amazon card I'd do Copay again. Also very good for getting rid of your BCH of course.
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September 25, 2018, 04:44:52 PM
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I used to buy amazon gift cards on gyft.com and some times on bitify.Gyft is a legit site and sell giftcards directly from merchant where as other sites are marketplaces .Purse.io is better place to buy gift card or products from amazon as it offers escrow and can hold btc till the items are delivered to the buyers.Copay is also a good site ,but offers no discount.I prefer selling bitcoins for premium on localbitcoins and buy amazon GC with cash instead
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September 25, 2018, 07:37:09 PM
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Hilton head Insurance company provides the copayment if you underwent the surgery or anything. Are you asking this thing on Amazon gift cards? This is simply no need to have in the Amazon site or etc.
Digital goods section is the useful section for you to find the more answers about this.
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September 25, 2018, 08:42:49 PM
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I was looking for an easy way to buy products on Amazon with bitcoin.

As they don't accept bitcoins directly i soon found the likes of https://purse.io/, but the reviews people have given this site and others that function the same way (Giftcards that people spend on your products are often carded/product never arrives/et al) didn't particularly satisfy me.

Copay however offers to sell you *legit* Amazon gifcards, at a 1:1 ratio, with no KYC/third parties required whatsoever - correct?

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You can purchase Amazon.com Gift Card value in penny increments between $1.00 and $500.00.
https://blog.bitpay.com/buy-amazon-gift-cards-with-bitcoin/
1-500$ a day. Seems OK. what exactly are the fees on this is what i'm also pretty curious about..

The blogpost is pretty dated - 2016, so i'm wondering how accurate this still is.

Especially with sites like https://www.gyft.com/ no longer offering Amazon GC (for bitcoin), because (i believe) they got restricted by Amazon from doing so. Why has this not happend to Copay & co? They offer the exact same service as far as i can see.

I'm not sure why Gyft and others shut down while Copay didn't. Maybe the difference was the fraud factor -- Gyft, eGifter and others allow payment by credit card, Paypal, etc.

I started using Copay for their Amazon gift card service whenever Gyft shut things down. The limit is $2000 per day now. I've used it 6-7 times -- it's instant and reliable. The only downsides are no Segwit addresses, and you need to pay the additional network fee that Bitpay charges (which you already had to do with Gyft). Also, these are only good in the US on Amazon.com.

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December 09, 2018, 06:29:28 PM
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here's an update on gift cards through copay....

after the recent compromise, i had to get the new version. they stopped publishing binaries on github and you need to go through app stores. after managing to get the new wallet, i found out that gift cards have been removed from the copay wallet entirely!

i did some digging and it seems that gift cards (including amazon) are still available on the bitpay wallet. i just downloaded it and i can see the amazon gift cards feature integrated. really glad this option is still available!

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