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October 10, 2018, 08:39:54 AM
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People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

What makes you think it's about the money for him? Why wouldn't he want another opportunity to beat him? Connor has a slim chance of actually winning against him unless he gets lucky. There's obviously some real bad blood between these two now, or at least for Khabib. McGregor just says things to be inflammatory to try get inside your head and it's a good tactic and often works because it can give you an advantage and can often make your opponent lose their cool, and that's what happened when Khabib did a Cantona and jumped into the audience. Apparently Conor's trainer was taunting him during and after the fight making racial and religious slurs so that's why he did what he did. I'd like to see a rematch because the badblood might make for a more explosive fight now and who else are those guys going to fight?

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October 10, 2018, 12:30:28 PM
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Yes, its because his losing a lot of oxygen specially when Khabib was on top of him. Plus he was out of the cage for quite so these factors contributed that's why he hasn't see him testing what he calls glass chin of khabib.
Without fighting for years can really affect your stamina and that's what happen to Conor sadly. I still wanted a rematch. I hope that Mcgregor will consider the retirement that he said recently because I have also saw his twitter post that he wanted to have rematch. Khabib is indeed a  tough opponent.

Oh I wasn't aware that Conor McGregor will go on another hiatus. Perhaps he was devastated with the lost. Or probably he already has a lot of money so no need to get his body getting hurt as the division is really stack up.

He really have and aside from that unlike before after he gets the two division belt. He became more of a showman than a fighter.
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October 10, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
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People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

Khabib's not in it for the money eh?  Ok, so he wouldn't give a rats ass if he won't be getting his purse from the NSAC?  Grin 

I pretty much doubt that.  And it's exactly why he was saying he's sorry at the post fight press conference.  He wants his money.

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October 10, 2018, 01:46:56 PM
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In hindsight, Khabib should have tried to win the crowd by taking the moral high ground after his victory.  He should have extended his hand to McGregor to help him get up then bowed on McGregor's feet as an act of showing respect and gratitude for giving him the honor of fighting him.

That would've raised Khabib's status in the UFC and in sports in general imho.  

Khabib:  'Check mate b*tch!'.  Grin

I agree with you , that lack of sportsmanship in a way took some shine away from his victory but all in all he did great and conor ought to back up and get back to wining ways because he looked way too far from his best. I think on a better day Khabib wouldn't stand a chance against Conor but hey! it happens!
I cant really blame Khabib even though trashtalking is just a normal thing before the fight but it did really touched the pride of Khabib and even on his team but that royale rumble shouldnt really happen.It do really shows out no respect to the opponent and into the sports itself. Khabib might have a good record but if people or UFC fans would have negative impressions on you then it would really be an awkward career for sure.

Everything panned out the way McGregor likes it even in defeat.  Nevada's athletic commission is withholding Khabib's fight purse of 2M USD until everything is sorted out.  He's prolly getting a fine of at least 250K USD and at least one year suspension imo.  That's too long and the UFC would have to strip him of the belt...

It's Tony time b*tches!  Grin
When it comes to fine then it would really be a piece of cake but talking on suspension then it would be an another story but overall this fight is just an another show.  Grin
But sadly, Khabib didnt hold back his emotions and leave a messy trail.

Yeah Khabib should have hold back his emotions and let the team of McGregor envy his win. Though he has a point on attacking those  people trash talking him but it's not allowable for him to illegally compromise those people outside the Pentagon.

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October 10, 2018, 04:54:23 PM
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@hilariousetc Just look at khabib's previous fights. He actually makes up with his opponent after the fight and respects his opponent. That wasn't the case with McGregor. The racial slurs actually got to him and now that he has proven himself I doubt he will be up for a rematch soon because of his 'strong' faith. I don't see a rematch happening anytime soon unless McGregor starts to trash talk again.




@tokenweed He is a man of faith. He attributes his every win to God do you really think he will care about the purse? As for him apologizing, he is just trying to do the right thing after he snapped out.
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October 10, 2018, 07:24:46 PM
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If you check reddit it is said that the sales of UFC3 increased after the fight.

Now read that carefully, the EA game of UFC for playstation got more sales after the fight, you think dana white will just let khabib and conor thing go away ? It is impossible, there is still a lot of money to be made for that fight. Maybe who knows they will fight other people in between but eventually there will be a fight but while this topic is still quite hot it would be wise to make a rematch happen during spring or so. That way dana can make a ton of money and fighters would too. This is after all just about the money.
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October 10, 2018, 07:46:24 PM
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People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

What makes you think it's about the money for him? Why wouldn't he want another opportunity to beat him? Connor has a slim chance of actually winning against him unless he gets lucky. There's obviously some real bad blood between these two now, or at least for Khabib. McGregor just says things to be inflammatory to try get inside your head and it's a good tactic and often works because it can give you an advantage and can often make your opponent lose their cool, and that's what happened when Khabib did a Cantona and jumped into the audience. Apparently Conor's trainer was taunting him during and after the fight making racial and religious slurs so that's why he did what he did. I'd like to see a rematch because the badblood might make for a more explosive fight now and who else are those guys going to fight?
There is no bad blood for McGregor. He doesn't give a fuck about Khabib, his team or what happened after the fight. Otherwise he would have participated in this mess or talked about it after the match.
He just lit the fire for business purposes, for the show. I'm sure he would have shaken hands with Khabib if Khabib hadn't behaved like a moron.
And he won't ask for a rematch, he knows he would get his ass kicked.
Right now there are excuses for his defeat (not fighting for a while) and to some he is still the good guy.
He has too much to lose getting in the cage again with Khabib.

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October 10, 2018, 10:29:56 PM
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People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

Khabib's not in it for the money eh?  Ok, so he wouldn't give a rats ass if he won't be getting his purse from the NSAC?  Grin 

I pretty much doubt that.  And it's exactly why he was saying he's sorry at the post fight press conference.  He wants his money.

I'm sure that he wants his money. After all, he trained hard for this fight so its obvious he wanted to get his purse. His career is on the line here, well he can go and transfer to other organization but here's where the all the 'moolah' is. Khabib probably regretting his actions,  but combat sports is also a business of making money so he need to understand that as well.

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October 11, 2018, 11:53:51 AM
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@hilariousetc Just look at khabib's previous fights. He actually makes up with his opponent after the fight and respects his opponent. That wasn't the case with McGregor. The racial slurs actually got to him and now that he has proven himself I doubt he will be up for a rematch soon because of his 'strong' faith. I don't see a rematch happening anytime soon unless McGregor starts to trash talk again.




@tokenweed He is a man of faith. He attributes his every win to God do you really think he will care about the purse? As for him apologizing, he is just trying to do the right thing after he snapped out.

So do you think it's gonna be ok for him to give up his 2M USD and his share from the PPV buys and retire poor in the mountains of Dagestan?

C'mon dude...  I know you can't be that dumb to believe in that bs.  Cheesy

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October 11, 2018, 06:53:01 PM
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Honestly Conor was always talk the talk kinda guy and he always talked about how he was bringing pay per view for the UFC and he is not wrong neither. Look at all the other title fights, look at what Khabib brought in so far. No one makes money for UFC like Conor does, all other fighters are not worth of any time. Conor as amazing PR and his attitude is always bringing viewers and that is what important for UFC.

However, do not forget that even if you bring in money you may lose and lose faith with the viewers, look at Ronda rousey, she had everything anyone ask for as a fighter and lost that with a match and ever since than she turned to acting and stopped fighting.
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Honestly Conor was always talk the talk kinda guy and he always talked about how he was bringing pay per view for the UFC and he is not wrong neither. Look at all the other title fights, look at what Khabib brought in so far. No one makes money for UFC like Conor does, all other fighters are not worth of any time. Conor as amazing PR and his attitude is always bringing viewers and that is what important for UFC.

However, do not forget that even if you bring in money you may lose and lose faith with the viewers, look at Ronda rousey, she had everything anyone ask for as a fighter and lost that with a match and ever since than she turned to acting and stopped fighting.

True, Conor is their money mouth, and it's definitely effective. Conor McGregor has lost too many times now to be considered one of the greatest, he's not old and worn out, he simply got bested by the better man, and there's no excuses for that.

I think even if McGregor manages to run his mouth again and score another fight he'll get mauled a second time, but he honestly doesn't deserve it. I think it will be difficult for UFC to keep putting him into big money fights when there's simply nobody he can be matched against.
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October 11, 2018, 09:01:45 PM
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Khabib Nurmagomedov threatens to quit UFC after Conor McGregor brawl

Khabib Nurmagomedov has threatened to quit the UFC.

The undefeated lightweight champion wrote on Instagram that he will walk away from the promotion if Zubaira Tukhugov is suspended for his role in the post-fight brawl that broke out at UFC 229.

Tukhugov appeared to vault over the Octagon and strike Conor McGregor in the back of the head, immediately after Nurmagomedov had submitted the Irishman in the fourth round of their lightweight title fight.

After the brawl McGregor decided not to press charges, although UFC president Dana White immediately pledged that those who entered the Octagon and attacked McGregor would never fight in the promotion again.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/mma/khabib-conor-mcgregor-vs-ufc-quit-retire-instagram-fight-watch-video-nurmagomedov-highlights-replay-a8579296.html

Do you think its a good move from Khabib to make a threat? There's only a few promotional company around, Bellator MMA. ONE which is Asia base and WSF. However, those two doesn't have any good fighters to begin with. Bellator MMA is a good choice but there's no money in the line.

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October 11, 2018, 11:56:07 PM
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Do you think its a good move from Khabib to make a threat? There's only a few promotional company around, Bellator MMA. ONE which is Asia base and WSF. However, those two doesn't have any good fighters to begin with. Bellator MMA is a good choice but there's no money in the line.
I think it is just a result of the burst of emotions. Things that happened is so fresh and expect that kind of statement. When time passed by and cooler heads prevail, they will know what's the right move to do next which is a rematch because of that huge amount of money involve and they don't need to spend a lot of money promoting it cause people are waiting for it to happen.
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October 12, 2018, 12:59:47 AM
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In hindsight, Khabib should have tried to win the crowd by taking the moral high ground after his victory.  He should have extended his hand to McGregor to help him get up then bowed on McGregor's feet as an act of showing respect and gratitude for giving him the honor of fighting him.

That would've raised Khabib's status in the UFC and in sports in general imho.  

Khabib:  'Check mate b*tch!'.  Grin

I agree with you , that lack of sportsmanship in a way took some shine away from his victory but all in all he did great and conor ought to back up and get back to wining ways because he looked way too far from his best. I think on a better day Khabib wouldn't stand a chance against Conor but hey! it happens!
I cant really blame Khabib even though trashtalking is just a normal thing before the fight but it did really touched the pride of Khabib and even on his team but that royale rumble shouldnt really happen.It do really shows out no respect to the opponent and into the sports itself. Khabib might have a good record but if people or UFC fans would have negative impressions on you then it would really be an awkward career for sure.

Everything panned out the way McGregor likes it even in defeat.  Nevada's athletic commission is withholding Khabib's fight purse of 2M USD until everything is sorted out.  He's prolly getting a fine of at least 250K USD and at least one year suspension imo.  That's too long and the UFC would have to strip him of the belt...

It's Tony time b*tches!  Grin
When it comes to fine then it would really be a piece of cake but talking on suspension then it would be an another story but overall this fight is just an another show.  Grin
But sadly, Khabib didnt hold back his emotions and leave a messy trail.

Yeah Khabib should have hold back his emotions and let the team of McGregor envy his win. Though he has a point on attacking those  people trash talking him but it's not allowable for him to illegally compromise those people outside the Pentagon.
Each person do have different control when it comes to temper but when your pride is already being stomped which they do already include too personal things then I cant really say that I wont do the same thing but for the sake of your career you should really have the control.Its really a shame that these incident do proves out on having no respect to this sports because they do let emotions explode out even though this is a business.
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October 12, 2018, 10:57:12 AM
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Do you think its a good move from Khabib to make a threat? There's only a few promotional company around, Bellator MMA. ONE which is Asia base and WSF. However, those two doesn't have any good fighters to begin with. Bellator MMA is a good choice but there's no money in the line.
I think it is just a result of the burst of emotions. Things that happened is so fresh and expect that kind of statement. When time passed by and cooler heads prevail, they will know what's the right move to do next which is a rematch because of that huge amount of money involve and they don't need to spend a lot of money promoting it cause people are waiting for it to happen.

Its going to be one of his biggest mistakes if Khabib decided to quit UFC and bring his talent to other MMA organizations. He needs to calm down and think about the future. He is already a superstar in UFC specially with the win against Conor.

I agree that this is just a emotional burst on his side, He already won, no need to take personally. Conor has been defeated and relegated already and fans already know who's the better man. IF he decided to leave UFC then he won't get the same money his getting in UFC right now.
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October 12, 2018, 11:21:21 AM
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@tokenweed There you go...

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“And one more thing, you can keep my money that you are withholding. You are pretty busy with that, I hope it won’t get stuck in your throat. We have defended our honour and this is the most important thing. We intend to go to the end.”

This is from the article from Baofeng shared. I guess you are not good at reading people. People actually care about their honour and 'brotherhood'. I have studied these 'religious' people. They don't care about 'materialistic' things. Bonds are the most valuable things for them and they will do anything to make sure it says intact.
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October 12, 2018, 11:35:16 AM
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Do you think its a good move from Khabib to make a threat? There's only a few promotional company around, Bellator MMA. ONE which is Asia base and WSF. However, those two doesn't have any good fighters to begin with. Bellator MMA is a good choice but there's no money in the line.
I think it is just a result of the burst of emotions. Things that happened is so fresh and expect that kind of statement. When time passed by and cooler heads prevail, they will know what's the right move to do next which is a rematch because of that huge amount of money involve and they don't need to spend a lot of money promoting it cause people are waiting for it to happen.

Its going to be one of his biggest mistakes if Khabib decided to quit UFC and bring his talent to other MMA organizations. He needs to calm down and think about the future. He is already a superstar in UFC specially with the win against Conor.

I agree that this is just a emotional burst on his side, He already won, no need to take personally. Conor has been defeated and relegated already and fans already know who's the better man. IF he decided to leave UFC then he won't get the same money his getting in UFC right now.

What if it's not about the money though? He already went against character when he jumped off the octagon believing that it's personal between him and mcgregor's team. Though you're all correct that things may change when he thoroughly thinks about it but you can't blame the man for being too emotional.

 
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October 12, 2018, 05:41:10 PM
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Definitely do not take instagram posts as serious things that could lead to anything.

Famous people have been using social media however they want and than backtrack on their words and doing what they said they won't. Hence even if Khabib does "quit ufc" somehow because of anything he will definitely comeback when he hears the purse and the money.

You may think "he is not about money type guy" but you are forgetting how many people around him, he eventually will let go of his ideas and go fight so he could make money for himself but more importantly for others around him as well.
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October 13, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
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People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

What makes you think it's about the money for him? Why wouldn't he want another opportunity to beat him? Connor has a slim chance of actually winning against him unless he gets lucky. There's obviously some real bad blood between these two now, or at least for Khabib. McGregor just says things to be inflammatory to try get inside your head and it's a good tactic and often works because it can give you an advantage and can often make your opponent lose their cool, and that's what happened when Khabib did a Cantona and jumped into the audience. Apparently Conor's trainer was taunting him during and after the fight making racial and religious slurs so that's why he did what he did. I'd like to see a rematch because the badblood might make for a more explosive fight now and who else are those guys going to fight?
There is no bad blood for McGregor. He doesn't give a fuck about Khabib, his team or what happened after the fight. Otherwise he would have participated in this mess or talked about it after the match.

He just lit the fire for business purposes, for the show. I'm sure he would have shaken hands with Khabib if Khabib hadn't behaved like a moron.

He doesn't give a fuck but yet he flew off the handle when Khabib merely cornered his teammate? That was the entire reason why he smashed up the tour bus and Conor was seemingly off his head with rage and retribution during that whole escapade. He probably would have shaken his hand after the fight because Conor usually tries to be humble in defeat (and acting like a sore loser just makes the loss worse so the best course of action is to act humble and accept defeat).


And he won't ask for a rematch, he knows he would get his ass kicked.
Right now there are excuses for his defeat (not fighting for a while) and to some he is still the good guy.
He has too much to lose getting in the cage again with Khabib.

He probably knew before the fight that he would get his ass kicked (or that it was highly probable). Same for the Mayweather fight, but Conor just cares about the payday now regardless of whether he will win or not and the biggest money he's going to get is for a rematch. Conor haters will want to see him get mauled again and they'll be hoping by much worse, and Conor fans will be hoping he can somehow beat him this time. Khabib will probably want to beat him again so a rematch makes sense, and the UFC will have a hard-on given all the drama it created and they can capitalise on that to promote it. The rematch would easily eclipse the original in interest and sales because more people will tune in to see what happens or if it all kicks off again. They'll probably have more time to promote it as well and go on a world tour for it. It just makes sense for all parties involved because the money they will be making is win-win for everyone regardless of the outcome. If Conor does miraculously win then they'll probably be a trilogy fight like they probably will be for Diaz.

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October 13, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
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^  It feels like a rematch between those two would be a tad too early imo.  I'd like to see McGregor redeem himself vs Tony Ferguson which could be a better match up from him stylistically.

Maybe even make McGregor vs Diaz and Khabib vs Ferguson in one card.  That would be yuuuuuge!  :0


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