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September 23, 2018, 11:54:10 AM Last edit: September 23, 2018, 05:12:09 PM by CryptoCrane |
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Important StatsHash-rate: 7.8TH/s Power consumption: 1410 watts Shipping date for batch 1: September 26-30, 2018 Limit: 2 per customer Base price: $673.00 Keep in mind, these miners carry a 2.6% + 25% tariff now when purchasing inside the United States (plus shipping and PSU). LinkAt current DCR price and current difficulty, CryptoCompare's mining calculator estimates $530/month in profit at $0.16/kWh. Obviously, this will change as the price/difficult changes.
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HagssFIN
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September 23, 2018, 12:00:37 PM |
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That power efficiency is so so bad, if you compare it to the WhatsMiner D1 44Th/s.
This antminer takes about three times the power per hash.
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CryptoCrane (OP)
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September 23, 2018, 12:08:53 PM |
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That power efficiency is so so bad, if you compare it to the WhatsMiner D1 44Th/s.
This antminer takes about three times the power per hash.
Great point, but keep in mind that the Pangolin Whatsminer D1 is out of stock and costs roughly 5 times more (total).
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swogerino
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September 23, 2018, 04:22:13 PM |
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530 dollars a month profit right now seems great. I don't know how it last because usually the ASICS start going down in profit once many people start using them, just as GPU-mining, only here the profit decrease at a much faster rate.
Yet this ASIC seems doing really well even at a 0.16 kw/h power consumption, so probably the people with cheaper electricity I think will buy 2 of them. It seems so enticing right now.
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KaydenC
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September 23, 2018, 04:43:23 PM |
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Plugging in the numbers, it's $12/day revenue, $9 profit at 9 cents power.
Assume they ship 3k units, which increase difficulty by 25% over a month, revenue down to $9/day, profit $6/day. Seems like a 100 day payback investment, but whatsminer DCR shipping in 60 days.
Nah this will get wrecked.
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Umotand
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September 23, 2018, 05:16:24 PM |
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Plugging in the numbers, it's $12/day revenue, $9 profit at 9 cents power.
Assume they ship 3k units, which increase difficulty by 25% over a month, revenue down to $9/day, profit $6/day. Seems like a 100 day payback investment, but whatsminer DCR shipping in 60 days.
Nah this will get wrecked.
Maybe after December, only the whatsminer miner can make profit due to the high efficiency.
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r01k
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September 23, 2018, 05:47:17 PM |
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0.27 the efficiency of the Whatsminer DCR. You plug in the DR3 in October and DCRs start pumping in November. ROI by December and make whatever small change is left by the Whatsminers. Doesn't seem really worth the trouble to me.
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roc-noc
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September 23, 2018, 05:56:00 PM |
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But it won't be worth mining in December. You will never see payback on their $4000 USD miner. I jumped and ordered 2 of the Antminer's early this morning hoping to see payback. Still very risky. I was early on the Z9 mini's which had a similar quick 2 month payback. 3 months later mining about 30% from where it began and still not paid back. Will be lucky if that happens by year end. An now we have the Trump tariff to pay on these miners.
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lunobird
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September 23, 2018, 05:59:03 PM |
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You guys are also forgetting that Obelisk is also shipping out their Batch 1. They are tweaking the firmware and batch 2-5 will follow suit
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r01k
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September 23, 2018, 06:01:44 PM |
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I was early on the Z9 mini's which had a similar quick 2 month payback. 3 months later mining about 30% from where it began and still not paid back. Will be lucky if that happens by year end.
Then why you ordered the DR3's?
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September 23, 2018, 06:09:19 PM |
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At least Bitmain is doing the Maximum order quantities or these. I wonder how many we can source for buyers for Sept. Our listing should be up in a few hours but a soft quote is looking like over $1k to import to the US using web service payment. Most of our international buyers decide to take on customs responsibility themselves and we're seeing more US buyers request quotes to do so as well.
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minefarmbuy
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September 23, 2018, 06:10:23 PM |
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Forgot to ask how this rates with Innosilicons model?
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r01k
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September 23, 2018, 06:20:50 PM |
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Forgot to ask how this rates with Innosilicons model?
DR3 is 2.4 times more efficient.
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skvincha
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September 23, 2018, 07:04:23 PM |
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this profit right now seems great but I could not find any difficulty chart, In my country the energy is worth $0.065 and how I calculate the difficulty change and how much time will need payback?
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r01k
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September 23, 2018, 07:06:10 PM |
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how I calculate the difficulty change and how much time will need payback?
There's no way to know that for sure but the difficulty is expected to increase significantly based on all the different manufacturers that are releasing miners for this algorithm.
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minefarmbuy
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September 23, 2018, 07:15:18 PM |
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If antminer holds the max of two for first batch these look to ROI before the D1 is shipped out.
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aga0685
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September 23, 2018, 07:35:30 PM |
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Now Decred have got 80Ph... This miner have 7.8 Th of hashpower... Is equal about 10500 Miner... if Bitmain sell 5000 Pcs the reward ( now is about 14$) decrease until 7$. The cost of electricity is important... ( 1400 watt equal to about 34Kwh/day....) I think that if we are lucky ( low electricity cost ) ROI is about 220/250 days...... if we are unlucky ( hight electricity cost) ROI is about 1 year or more... During this period more powerful asic miner arrive........
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r01k
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September 23, 2018, 07:42:17 PM Last edit: September 24, 2018, 11:57:09 AM by r01k |
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Note that if you use an APW3++ PSU @ 93% efficiency the power usage at the wall will be 1516W.
--Edit: I realized that's wrong: Advertised 1410W consumption is already measured at the wall.
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September 23, 2018, 07:56:40 PM |
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Here bitmain goes again trying to churn out a non efficient miner quickly to kill competiton and wreck their market like the D3 and oblisk
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